RUMOUR - Lita & Shorey on the way out

[Behindu]

Sounds like WHu have a manager well suited to the club then !

Mel, you sound disappointed that we don;t all just roll over and and accept your 'knowledge' and organise a fair well party for Shorey.

If you posted somethng that is more than the vague stories that have been in the press for weeks we may be a little more receptive.

Shorey may go, he may not. Players move clubs all the time and it won;t be the end of the world for us if he does, although it would be a shame and probably not a great move for him IMHO.

He's a good player, has achieved probably more than his raw talent might have suggested because he works hard and does his job very well.

[zac naloen]

What makes me laugh is that Melbguy is posting stories that are carbon copies of each other as all the news outlets get their stories from the same source and run with them to fill column space.

The fact that this has appeared in the media doesn't mean all that much.

The Independant have been posting stories about West Ham bids for Shorey since the transfer window opened.

It most certainly doesn't mean for certain he's going anywhere yet.

Personally i think a move to the most unstable club in the premiership would be a massive mistake. Regardless of the wages involved.

[Ginger Ninjas]

I'd like Shorey to aim a bit higher with his choice of club. Realistically, I'd expect RFC to finish 12th to 16th and WHU 10th to 14th - it's not really an improvement. Newcastle or Spurs (or Everton if Baines hadn't have gone there) would seem like real progress to me.

As for the fee, £6M seems a bit cheap in today's climate, and with WHU's finances I think we should be demanding £7.5M - enough to bring in a quality left back plus another player.

[Gordons Cumming]

As for the fee, £6M seems a bit cheap in today's climate, and with WHU's finances I think we should be demanding £7.5M - enough to bring in a quality left back plus another player.

If Shorey goes at end of the week then we will have no time to get a replacement(s)

[Hoop Blah]

I don't desperately want to believe it, I do believe it as I know it for a fact.

To be honest I'm not that bothered whether he signs or not as I don't think he's that special.

Personally I don't disbelive that Shorey would like to join West Ham. I'd be disappointed that that was the extent of his ambition, but at the end of the day it's £££'s that rule the football world and you lot seem to be throwing them round like confetti at the moment.

I do find it a bit laughable that you know it for a FACT though. Even if you have this mate who is Shorey's best mate, it's not unlikely that he's getting a slightly biased view of things from Shorey who might be telling him what he wants to hear or that your mate is reading a bit more into Shorey comments to him than he intends.

Only yesterday Murty was on the local radio here saying how hard it is to get more than two words out of Shorey and because of this it's difficult to really know whats going on on his head.

All you know for a FACT is that someone has told you something. How true it is is just a judgement call by you and your opinion.

If Shorey goes it'll be a big loss for us. It'll mean we'll be without our two most creative players in Little and Shorey, and repacing Shorey will be a very hard task. I'm not sure Shorey would be much of a success at West Ham either as I'm not sure his personality would fit with the West Ham culture.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

Sidwell wouldn't even tell the players here he was joining Chelsea, I somehow doubt Shorey's been discussing this with mates who then pass the info on.

[G'La]

As for the fee, £6M seems a bit cheap in today's climate, and with WHU's finances I think we should be demanding £7.5M - enough to bring in a quality left back plus another player.

If Shorey goes at end of the week then we will have no time to get a replacement(s)

Can play LB too...

http://www.fulhamweb.com/fulhamweb/news ... le_id=6757

[Rawlie19]

On the plus side, Golbourne (I wanted to call him Goldberg then, but realise that's a character from Mighty Ducks) played very well on Saturday. It would be better if we could have another season, or maybe until January to try and bed him into the side more, but I'm not sure how we'd do this as that would surely mean dropping Shorey. I believe he's played and showed enough promise in the reserves already and maybe another season of that would just be pointless.

Anyway, I hope Shorey doesn't go as he is the (or one of the) best left back in the country, and if we do sell then it had better be for a hell of a lot of wonga.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

He's not going anywhere for fcuk sake!! Why would we sell him? He's not gonna be so upset at us turning down a bid from West Ham that he starts acting up is he. Hardly seems the big time charley type. He'll go on a free next summer.

[Gordons Cumming]

He'll go on a free next summer.

He' got 2 years left on his contract.

[Rawlie19]

He's not going anywhere for fcuk sake!! Why would we sell him? He's not gonna be so upset at us turning down a bid from West Ham that he starts acting up is he. Hardly seems the big time charley type. He'll go on a free next summer.

£7m in January or £10m now will do. But I'd rather he didn't go anywhere. It'll be £5m next summer and £2.5 by January 2009. THEN free.

[SpaceCruiser]

Is it not feasible that Talksport have only got their "story" by reading one of the newspapers? And the newspapers have only got their story because someone has told them West Ham are interested in Shorey?

You know, that's what I've been thinking. I think it's one lazy journalist has been looking at the fan messageboards (probably DUMB) and thinks "oooh, there's a story here, a nice filler for the rumour & gossip columns in my paper!"

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

He'll go on a free next summer.

He' got 2 years left on his contract.

The summer after next I mean.

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

He's not going anywhere for fcuk sake!! Why would we sell him? He's not gonna be so upset at us turning down a bid from West Ham that he starts acting up is he. Hardly seems the big time charley type. He'll go on a free next summer.

£7m in January or £10m now will do. But I'd rather he didn't go anywhere. It'll be £5m next summer and £2.5 by January 2009. THEN free.

What we gonna do with £10M? We'd never spend, never be able to replace Shorey with a player of similar quality. We'll keep him and take the £60m tv revenue every season.

[Hoop Blah]

What we gonna do with £10M? We'd never spend, never be able to replace Shorey with a player of similar quality. We'll keep him and take the £60m tv revenue every season.

Well hopefully, but thats a big assumption that Shorey will do a Sidwell and maintain his form whilst we 'force' him so see out his contract.

[jimmyboy (whufc)]

Another rehashed story with obvious inconsistencies...


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So for some obscure reason we're now askingfor £6 million rather than the £8 million you told us we want and that is described as playing 'hardball'.

Still no sign of Shorey being so desperate to move that he's asked for a transfer...

If the story is correct then more substance please, anonymous third part psotings on a WHU website not accepted !!

Players rarely ask to be transfer listed as this usually means giving up the right to any outstanding bonuses/signing on fees owed to them.

[The 17 Bus]

Another rehashed story with obvious inconsistencies...


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So for some obscure reason we're now askingfor £6 million rather than the £8 million you told us we want and that is described as playing 'hardball'.

Still no sign of Shorey being so desperate to move that he's asked for a transfer...

If the story is correct then more substance please, anonymous third part psotings on a WHU website not accepted !!

Players rarely ask to be transfer listed as this usually means giving up the right to any outstanding bonuses/signing on fees owed to them.

not any more it doesn't, signing on fees are common, a share of the fee fopr the transfer I think is a thing of the past.

[Fat Leather Jacket]

Excellent.

Lets all now move on.

[Behindu]

Players rarely ask to be transfer listed as this usually means giving up the right to any outstanding bonuses/signing on fees owed to them.

It's not hard to work out the maths though....

Any outstanding bonuses will be minimal at the start of a season, unless there are 'loyalty' payments, which a player deserves to lose if they try to force a move.

If West Ham are (say) doubling the wages of a player he woul dneed to be on one hell of a bonus to make it worth missing out on the move,

Signing on fees would be paid by the club who are signing the player, not the club he is leaving.

The point was that Me seemed so certain Shorey was suicidal at the propespect of not joiningthe WHU gravy train, Coppell has said that any player who wants to go just needs to say so yet the silence is deafening. Economically it makes no sense for a player NOT to ask for a move when it would be to a club that chucks money around like they print it....

[zac naloen]

a club that chucks money around like they print it....

Well, now that you mention it...