Kitson for England

[Wax Jacket]

Kitson will NEVER play for England

barely fit enough to play for th 17th best team in the Prem

[Rob-Royal]

Kitson will NEVER play for England

barely fit enough to play for th 17th best team in the Prem

I can safely say my mum will NEVER play for England.......

[Stranded]

What a shame that such smug negativity is appearing more and more on this board after our poor start to the season.

Its called reality mate

How long is never? Please define never? Please provide your qualifications to say that Kitson will NEVER play for England?

Less than 18months ago a mong on here mentioned the word NEVER when responding to a thread about a Reading player in the existing squad one day playing for England.

Do you see where I'm going here Diddly diddly dee...? I'll spell it out for you, you can't say never because you can't say that over the next 3-4 years that Kitson will never play for England unless you have a magical crystal ball and can see so far into the future....

Oh, and you are a twat and probably gay too...

Define Never? Before the end of his career.

I would say it is very, very unlikely that he will play for England.

[Alan Partridge]

Scores 3 goals and 'Kitson for England'

Good player, loves the club and we love him. Our best forward at the present time but that's like being the best Welsh formula 1 driver at the minute.

Not good enough to play for England IMO and would take a lot of injuries for him to be considered but you never know.

[Rob-Royal]

What a shame that such smug negativity is appearing more and more on this board after our poor start to the season.

Its called reality mate

How long is never? Please define never? Please provide your qualifications to say that Kitson will NEVER play for England?

Less than 18months ago a mong on here mentioned the word NEVER when responding to a thread about a Reading player in the existing squad one day playing for England.

Do you see where I'm going here Diddly diddly dee...? I'll spell it out for you, you can't say never because you can't say that over the next 3-4 years that Kitson will never play for England unless you have a magical crystal ball and can see so far into the future....

Oh, and you are a twat and probably gay too...

Define Never? Before the end of his career.

I would say it is very, very unlikely that he will play for England.

You may well be right, less than 18 months ago you would have said the same about Shorey....you get my point?

The only reason I see Kitson having less of a chance is his age and lack of top flight previous experience, that's why Lita is probably ahead in the England stakes...

If Kitson continues to stay healthy and in form then his quality will get recognised and I see no reason why he wouldn't be considered along with those other names the original poster stated...

The word never is used too casually by those not qualified to do so to make a statement which is so definitive.

[starbug]

Well I rate Kitson above Crouch, Nugent, Heskey & Ashton, they've all had their chance so Kitson deserves to as well.

Unfortunately I think he'll be seen as too old for a debut, particularly as it'll take at least this season to build a strong reputation, and realistically most people would laugh at the prospect of playing a striker from Reading.

I'm 100% sure he'd do well given the opportunity except it wont happen whilst he's at Reading but I'm more than happy to not see him flying all over the world come international weekend.

[Stranded]

What a shame that such smug negativity is appearing more and more on this board after our poor start to the season.

Its called reality mate

How long is never? Please define never? Please provide your qualifications to say that Kitson will NEVER play for England?

Less than 18months ago a mong on here mentioned the word NEVER when responding to a thread about a Reading player in the existing squad one day playing for England.

Do you see where I'm going here Diddly diddly dee...? I'll spell it out for you, you can't say never because you can't say that over the next 3-4 years that Kitson will never play for England unless you have a magical crystal ball and can see so far into the future....

Oh, and you are a twat and probably gay too...

Define Never? Before the end of his career.

I would say it is very, very unlikely that he will play for England.

You may well be right, less than 18 months ago you would have said the same about Shorey....you get my point?

The only reason I see Kitson having less of a chance is his age and lack of top flight previous experience, that's why Lita is probably ahead in the England stakes...

If Kitson continues to stay healthy and in form then his quality will get recognised and I see no reason why he wouldn't be considered along with those other names the original poster stated...

The word never is used too casually by those not qualified to do so to make a statement which is so definitive.

Difference is two years ago Shorey was 24 and getting better, he also found himself in the fortunate position last year that he was the only English LB that was fit and playing regularly toward the end of the season.

I'm not saying that Kitson can't still improve but he's 27 now and has said himself he'll probably not play much beyond 30 due to the rigors the game has on his body.

If and it's a big IF he continues in this vain and gets say 10 in 10/12 games and then Heskey, Ashton, Crouch, Bent are all unavailable as a sqaud is announced, and he is fit at the same time, then he may just may get a game or a place on the bench. So I think it's a pretty safe bet to say he'll never play for England

[Dirk Gently]

This season especially he seems to be maturing into a different type of striker.

He's not an Owen, Crouch, Heskey, Ashton etc, but seems to be morphing much more into a Sheringham type -where his biggest quality is awarenes and intelligence rather than speed or height or whatever.

If I'm right, the more experience he gets, the better and better he'll get - and he could potentially play for longer than some other players because his brain will give an extra yard of pace once he starts to slow down.

[Hoop Blah]

This season especially he seems to be maturing into a different type of striker.

He's not an Owen, Crouch, Heskey, Ashton etc, but seems to be morphing much more into a Sheringham type -where his biggest quality is awarenes and intelligence rather than speed or height or whatever.

If I'm right, the more experience he gets, the better and better he'll get - and he could potentially play for longer than some other players because his brain will give an extra yard of pace once he starts to slow down.

He's always been that player though. It's nothing new.

I doubt Kitson will get a look in for England though, although nothing would surprise me with the number of injuries about these days and McLaren being the numpty that he is. His biggest problem is that he and Ashton are very similar players and if fit, Ashton is well ahead of him in the queue and should only get better as he matures.

It's funny to see that the players that are performing for us this year are the ones that didn't get the plaudits last season (mainly Harper and Kitson) and so you could say they're the ones with something to prove still. Thats what SSS is all about in my book.

It's great to see Kitson hitting some form though. He's such a good player and has come in for some undue stick on here over the years.

[papereyes]

I have a list of criteria in my head.

1) Injuries/suspension to at least two of Crouch, Heskey and Ashton.

I don't think there's anyone else in that style that's around but those three are ahead of him.

2) 10-15 goals this season, of which one or two are either special or important.

5-10 assists.

He needs to score a metric shitload.

3) A B-international or similar where he gets a chance to play in an England shirt and impress. A cup final or a big game against a top 4 club might do.

4) The press to decide that he needs a chance. Which requires all 3 previous criteria plus someone, somewhere saying "well, he's doing alright".

It's funny to see that the players that are performing for us this year are the ones that didn't get the plaudits last season (mainly Harper and Kitson) and so you could say they're the ones with something to prove still. Thats what SSS is all about in my book.

YES.

I also think other teams have enough footage of Doyle and Lita to prepare better for them. Kitson's had a season off.

(Oh, MartinRdg, you're absolutely right. But you can't deny that he didn't look like scoring)

[Vision]

This season especially he seems to be maturing into a different type of striker.

He's not an Owen, Crouch, Heskey, Ashton etc, but seems to be morphing much more into a Sheringham type -where his biggest quality is awarenes and intelligence rather than speed or height or whatever.

If I'm right, the more experience he gets, the better and better he'll get - and he could potentially play for longer than some other players because his brain will give an extra yard of pace once he starts to slow down.

He's always been that player though. It's nothing new.

I doubt Kitson will get a look in for England though, although nothing would surprise me with the number of injuries about these days and McLaren being the numpty that he is. His biggest problem is that he and Ashton are very similar players and if fit, Ashton is well ahead of him in the queue and should only get better as he matures.

It's funny to see that the players that are performing for us this year are the ones that didn't get the plaudits last season (mainly Harper and Kitson) and so you could say they're the ones with something to prove still. Thats what SSS is all about in my book.

It's great to see Kitson hitting some form though. He's such a good player and has come in for some undue stick on here over the years.

Spot on in my view.

[Alan Partridge]

Well I rate Kitson above Crouch, Nugent, Heskey & Ashton, they've all had their chance so Kitson deserves to as well.

Unfortunately I think he'll be seen as too old for a debut, particularly as it'll take at least this season to build a strong reputation, and realistically most people would laugh at the prospect of playing a striker from Reading.

I'm 100% sure he'd do well given the opportunity except it wont happen whilst he's at Reading but I'm more than happy to not see him flying all over the world come international weekend.

Heskey did a more than good enough job in the last match he played, Ashton hasn't had the chance because he got injured and is a better player than Kitson without doubt. Personally not a fan of Crocuh but his record speaks for itself.

Other than Reading fans there won't be a single person in football talking about 'Kitson for England' yet, and rightly so.

[Hoop Blah]

It's funny to see that the players that are performing for us this year are the ones that didn't get the plaudits last season (mainly Harper and Kitson) and so you could say they're the ones with something to prove still. Thats what SSS is all about in my book.

YES.

I also think other teams have enough footage of Doyle and Lita to prepare better for them. Kitson's had a season off.

Very true. I guess that as an average player that surprise element means so much more when searching for an advantage than for a very good player.

[Royal Fleet]

Kitson is very much a form player, and hence needs game to be at his best. Unfortunately he is somewhat injury prone as well, so I think we will only ever see him playing to the best of his ability in patches.

That said, if he continues as he has, and scores 15 goals by March, he may get the call. He needs to show this level until then though, and with his injury record I fear he won't!

[BR2]

Well I rate Kitson above Crouch, Nugent, Heskey & Ashton, they've all had their chance so Kitson deserves to as well.

Unfortunately I think he'll be seen as too old for a debut, particularly as it'll take at least this season to build a strong reputation, and realistically most people would laugh at the prospect of playing a striker from Reading.

I'm 100% sure he'd do well given the opportunity except it wont happen whilst he's at Reading but I'm more than happy to not see him flying all over the world come international weekend.

Heskey did a more than good enough job in the last match he played, Ashton hasn't had the chance because he got injured and is a better player than Kitson without doubt. Personally not a fan of Crocuh but his record speaks for itself.

Other than Reading fans there won't be a single person in football talking about 'Kitson for England' yet, and rightly so.

AP,
I have to dispute your suggestion that Ashton is a better player WITHOUT DOUBT.
Ashton has had one good season in The Premiership playing for a side that surpassed itself in which even the donkey Harewood (did you see him last night,the clown?) looked good for a while.
Ashton spent the whole of last season out injured and only on Saturday did he look a bit sharper but missed a sitter of a header.
IMHO Kitson is better in the air,is stronger and marginally quicker ,has equal first touch and is about the same in terms of hitting the target.

Heskey is injured,Bent is in no form at all,so Ashton has been mentioned in The Press of late.
I can't think of any other target-man striker who fits the bill and yes there is an element (as with Shorey) of there being limited choice and that is why I feel that he is a reasonable option.

[Rob-Royal]

What a shame that such smug negativity is appearing more and more on this board after our poor start to the season.

Its called reality mate

How long is never? Please define never? Please provide your qualifications to say that Kitson will NEVER play for England?

Less than 18months ago a mong on here mentioned the word NEVER when responding to a thread about a Reading player in the existing squad one day playing for England.

Do you see where I'm going here Diddly diddly dee...? I'll spell it out for you, you can't say never because you can't say that over the next 3-4 years that Kitson will never play for England unless you have a magical crystal ball and can see so far into the future....

Oh, and you are a twat and probably gay too...

Define Never? Before the end of his career.

I would say it is very, very unlikely that he will play for England.

You may well be right, less than 18 months ago you would have said the same about Shorey....you get my point?

The only reason I see Kitson having less of a chance is his age and lack of top flight previous experience, that's why Lita is probably ahead in the England stakes...

If Kitson continues to stay healthy and in form then his quality will get recognised and I see no reason why he wouldn't be considered along with those other names the original poster stated...

The word never is used too casually by those not qualified to do so to make a statement which is so definitive.

Difference is two years ago Shorey was 24 and getting better, he also found himself in the fortunate position last year that he was the only English LB that was fit and playing regularly toward the end of the season.

I'm not saying that Kitson can't still improve but he's 27 now and has said himself he'll probably not play much beyond 30 due to the rigors the game has on his body.

If and it's a big IF he continues in this vain and gets say 10 in 10/12 games and then Heskey, Ashton, Crouch, Bent are all unavailable as a sqaud is announced, and he is fit at the same time, then he may just may get a game or a place on the bench. So I think it's a pretty safe bet to say he'll never play for England

I think you had it right earlier Stranded when you said very unlikely.....

[AF1]

Englands number 9

Englands Englands number 9

[RobRoyal]

Not being good enough for England in no way rules you out of a call-up. It could happen, but I think Kitson, with his poached goals and slightly awkward style, is probably the most unfashionable player at an unfashionable club.

Then again, Emile Heskey.

[Dirk Gently]

Then again, Emile Heskey.

But McClaren didn't pick Heskey.

[Stranded]

Not being good enough for England in no way rules you out of a call-up. It could happen, but I think Kitson, with his poached goals and slightly awkward style, is probably the most unfashionable player at an unfashionable club.

Then again, Emile Heskey.

Who whilst at an unfashionable club has played for Liverpool and already had 40 odd England caps behind him.