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by 79Royal » 04 Nov 2007 12:04

Their first was a great goal. You can't do much about that. Close him down quicker perhaps, but it was a fantastic finish. Their second was poor play by Hunt. Got beaten far too easily and then made it fairly easy for him to cross. Sonko getting beaten in the air was a surprise, but he'll get better with games.

Healy was offside for their third and we'd pushed everybody forward.

We did enough to win the match IMO and if Rosenior starts in place of Murts and Ivar for Doobs, we'd be a lot stronger I reckon.

I don't think we need too many players in January for us to start winning matches. If we only got another 7 points by the end of 31st December, I still think we'd be in with an excellent chance of surviving.

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by cmonurz » 04 Nov 2007 12:13

79Royal I don't think we need too many players in January for us to start winning matches. If we only got another 7 points by the end of 31st December, I still think we'd be in with an excellent chance of surviving.


Welcome to Coppell's mind.

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by Irvinchangeyaname » 04 Nov 2007 12:14

With Man City, Birmingham, West Ham and Spurs being our remaining away games this year, I think the only way we can hope for those 7 points is from our home games. Last year I would have expected a good haul from those games - this year, I can't see past 0 points I'm afraid.

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by shadesrwrf » 04 Nov 2007 12:21

Irvinchangeyaname With Man City, Birmingham, West Ham and Spurs being our remaining away games this year, I think the only way we can hope for those 7 points is from our home games. Last year I would have expected a good haul from those games - this year, I can't see past 0 points I'm afraid.


:lol: :lol: Thank you. You've cheered me up no end.

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by strap » 04 Nov 2007 12:33

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rg6royal Convey should of came on earlier. Glad doyle got his goal though.


Convey should 'HAVE', FFS (yet another illiterate on HNA).



Does it matter?

Gee whizz.

:roll:


Actually, yes, it does. I won't bore you with the reasons why as you're attention span will doubtless be tested beyond its endurance.


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by readingbedding » 04 Nov 2007 12:35

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rg6royal Convey should of came on earlier. Glad doyle got his goal though.


Convey should 'HAVE', FFS (yet another illiterate on HNA).



Does it matter?

Gee whizz.

:roll:


Actually, yes, it does. I won't bore you with the reasons why as you're attention span will doubtless be tested beyond its endurance.


:wink:

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by Archie's penalty » 04 Nov 2007 13:02

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rg6royal Convey should of came on earlier. Glad doyle got his goal though.


Convey should 'HAVE', FFS (yet another illiterate on HNA).



Does it matter?

Gee whizz.

:roll:


Actually, yes, it does. I won't bore you with the reasons why as you're attention span will doubtless be tested beyond its endurance.


:wink:


Brilliant!

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by 1960 » 04 Nov 2007 13:26

We.ve had plenty of calls for signings in January, but what good would they be? Cisse wasn't playing much before his injury and Fae, our record signing, is not even making the bench. What if we got players in January and they didn't get a game?

Mind you, we might be saved by the ineptness of the other teams. Derby look doomed and Wigan have two points from their last nine games. Unless Hutchings goes and they bring someone good in they look doomed too. So that just leaves one of Fulham, Boro, Brum, Sunderland and Bolton to be worse than us for us to survive (I didn't include Spurs, because shorey they won't go down. Will they? It would be a hoot if they did).

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by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 04 Nov 2007 13:31

It is simple. Coppell actually spends the money on players good enough. Instead of taking the low pressure options with cheap players like Fae and Cisse.

Of course this would have been much, much, much easier to do in the summer. But Coppell bottled it then, he will not get that chance in January, when the board and Hammond force him to spend the money.

I just pray Hammond can still set up the deals to bring in the quality that we need, it will be very hard though. Thanks to Coppell.


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by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 04 Nov 2007 13:32

cmonurz
79Royal I don't think we need too many players in January for us to start winning matches. If we only got another 7 points by the end of 31st December, I still think we'd be in with an excellent chance of surviving.


Welcome to Coppell's mind.


I reckon he will declare himself happy with the squad by the 15th of January. No one having been signed of course....

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by Kevin Doyles Right Foot » 04 Nov 2007 13:43

I know we are playing shite atm, but all we need is a run of decent games under our belt so that we can have a bit of confidence in our playing and actually play good football(like we did at newcastle) after the arsenal game i expect this to happen, and seen as we have been playing shite for most of this season, 12th isnt a bad place to be.

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by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 04 Nov 2007 13:46

Kevin Doyles Right Foot I know we are playing shite atm, but all we need is a run of decent games under our belt so that we can have a bit of confidence in our playing and actually play good football(like we did at newcastle) after the arsenal game i expect this to happen, and seen as we have been playing shite for most of this season, 12th isnt a bad place to be.


True. But we have been saying that all season.

Our home form will keep us out of too much trouble. But from where we finished last season, that is not good enough.

And dont people start all the look where we have come from crap. We were a lot better than this last season and that is what matters.

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by Royalee » 04 Nov 2007 14:19

Agree with AP, Fulham are shite and to get beat there 3-1 was a disgrace. We didn't pass the ball all game and it's not like they're any good offensively, let alone defensively. The second and third goals were shambolic and if we let shite like Davies and Shefki Kuqi run riot then what bloody chance do we have away at the Man City or West Hams of this world?

Although our home form is still decent, Arsenal will be one of few teams this season who will actually take the game to us, which is all you really need to do to beat us. I expect a goalfest come next Monday, and I'm talking more than just three or four, they could quite easily outscore Pompey.


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by readingbedding » 04 Nov 2007 14:23

Royalee Agree with AP, Fulham are shite and to get beat there 3-1 was a disgrace. We didn't pass the ball all game and it's not like they're any good offensively, let alone defensively. The second and third goals were shambolic and if we let shite like Davies and Shefki Kuqi run riot then what bloody chance do we have away at the Man City or West Hams of this world?

Although our home form is still decent, Arsenal will be one of few teams this season who will actually take the game to us, which is all you really need to do to beat us. I expect a goalfest come next Monday, and I'm talking more than just three or four, they could quite easily outscore Pompey.


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by Man Friday » 04 Nov 2007 15:44

John Peel ...with Rosenoir in his place.

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by RoyalBlue » 04 Nov 2007 15:57

79Royal Their first was a great goal. You can't do much about that.


Mark the player stood on the edge of your box in the first place?!

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by Victor Meldrew » 04 Nov 2007 16:01

Unfortunately Yesterday's result at Newcastle put our win in perspective but having had a bit more time to think about it all I am slightly more optimistic than I felt last night.

Over the years teams like West Ham,Spurs,Villa,City,Everton,'Boro,Pompey,Newcastle and so on have generally survived because they win more of their home matches than they lose which compensate for their dire away records.
In recent years we have been a side that does well away from home and we have got used to it but historically we fell in the same category as these teams.
I can remember going to many away games and expecting to lose and we usually did and this season we are back to how things were.

We CAN survive by winning another 6 or 7 home games and picking up a couple of draws and a surprise away win somewhere as long as
(a)We get back to a passing game
(b)We learn how to block shots and cut out crosses.
Our players need to look at Carvalho to see what blocking is all about-once again we allowed Davies to shoot from distance(we let it happen every week) and although you can get away with this at lower levels the players in the Prem. are quite capable of scoring from distance if they are not closed down.

So wins v Birmingham,Sunderland,'Boro,Bolton,Fulham,Villa and one other COULD be enough but the players need to pass and not surrender possession so readily, concentrate for the full 90 minutes and chase everything as if their lives depend on it.
Then we have a chance regardless of the personnel and maybe if we get into these good habits those odd away points might come.

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by Archie's penalty » 04 Nov 2007 16:11

Victor Meldrew Unfortunately Yesterday's result at Newcastle put our win in perspective but having had a bit more time to think about it all I am slightly more optimistic than I felt last night.

Over the years teams like West Ham,Spurs,Villa,City,Everton,'Boro,Pompey,Newcastle and so on have generally survived because they win more of their home matches than they lose which compensate for their dire away records.
In recent years we have been a side that does well away from home and we have got used to it but historically we fell in the same category as these teams.
I can remember going to many away games and expecting to lose and we usually did and this season we are back to how things were.

We CAN survive by winning another 6 or 7 home games and picking up a couple of draws and a surprise away win somewhere as long as
(a)We get back to a passing game
(b)We learn how to block shots and cut out crosses.
Our players need to look at Carvalho to see what blocking is all about-once again we allowed Davies to shoot from distance(we let it happen every week) and although you can get away with this at lower levels the players in the Prem. are quite capable of scoring from distance if they are not closed down.

So wins v Birmingham,Sunderland,'Boro,Bolton,Fulham,Villa and one other COULD be enough but the players need to pass and not surrender possession so readily, concentrate for the full 90 minutes and chase everything as if their lives depend on it.
Then we have a chance regardless of the personnel and maybe if we get into these good habits those odd away points might come.


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by 79Royal » 04 Nov 2007 16:36

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79Royal Their first was a great goal. You can't do much about that.


Mark the player stood on the edge of your box in the first place?!


If you read my original post again, you'll see that I did say that closing him down would help.

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by RoyalBlue » 04 Nov 2007 16:50

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79Royal Their first was a great goal. You can't do much about that.


Mark the player stood on the edge of your box in the first place?!


If you read my original post again, you'll see that I did say that closing him down would help.


I read that. You also asked what more could be done. Trying to close down is often too late. It would have been far more effective not to have let him stand there on his own in the first place. Absolutely non-existent marking in his case!

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