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by Royalee » 11 Dec 2007 15:15

He had a decent game on Saturday - the whole team did.

I'd like to see you watch some of the other games this season and relay the facts from those games though.

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by londinium » 11 Dec 2007 15:19

Royalee He had a decent game on Saturday - the whole team did.

I'd like to see you watch some of the other games this season and relay the facts from those games though.


You still don't get it!

I know full well that he hasn't been great this season and I am the first to say that his kicking is normally awful and he doesn't come for enough crosses and he is slow off his line.

But the point is that I don't say any of that when he has a good game, as it just clouds the minds of others who didnt see the game in to thinking that 'Marcus was shit' again, when that is not the case.

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by West Stand Flash » 11 Dec 2007 15:26

Simple fact is our defensive line has been very poor this season.
Personally I believe Marcus is mostly responsible for this as he does not command his area in the slightest, hence why our defenders have little faith in him.

Yes he was quality last season, hence why he topped the OPTA stats for most saves - But that doesn't hide the fact he has been very poor this season.

@ 38 the Club, the fans & most likely Marcus knows this will be his last season as our Number 1. We need to be looking to the future & younger keepers who are going to fill the sticks for the foreseeable future.

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by Stranded » 11 Dec 2007 15:36

If it's his last season with us when he's 38 then we have another 3 seasons of him in goal.

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by Gus the teenage cow » 11 Dec 2007 15:47

look...i hate fans who think they are being fans by clinging to older players who have done it in the past.

Alex Ferguson has no room for sentiment, hence Man Knighted's(pun on Manc's pronunciation of their club and reference to Alex's Sirness, quite cleverly done if i do say so myself) continued success

.....like old mothers who cling to junk just coz it reminds them how beautiful they were 14 years go, we can't keep hold of Marcus based on his decent and IMO over-rated performances in the past

He is not a keeper's keeper in that he doesn't do the basics well, he makes the odd flashy save but too many of his errors lead to goals. Put simply it's time to let him go. Thanks for your time and efforts Marcus but we need fresh blood now


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by Hoop Blah » 11 Dec 2007 16:24

West Stand Flash Simple fact is our defensive line has been very poor this season.


We don't have a defensive line thank you very much!

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by brendywendy » 11 Dec 2007 16:30

West Stand Flash Simple fact is our defensive line has been very poor this season.
Personally I believe Marcus is mostly responsible for this as he does not command his area in the slightest, hence why our defenders have little faith in him.

Yes he was quality last season, hence why he topped the OPTA stats for most saves - But that doesn't hide the fact he has been very poor this season.

@ 38 the Club, the fans & most likely Marcus knows this will be his last season as our Number 1. We need to be looking to the future & younger keepers who are going to fill the sticks for the foreseeable future.


he topped the opta stats becuase our porous defence let the oppostition take the most shots at him, of which he saved a bigger number than anyone else
and i think the defence is a group thing, theyve all been off their game a little, and this has affected the others. its CBs for letting people waltz through and take pot shots, nowt to do with their worries over marcus
and in reverse its his fault when he comes and flaps at a cross.

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by silas » 11 Dec 2007 16:30

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I totally get the point you are making but regarding his kicking on Saturday-we are going to have to disagree-I thought it was poor. The rest of his game I thought he did well and have never once said otherwise or that 'he was rubbish again' and actually praised the times he rolled the ball out in another thread.

I'm glad we both agree that he has been poor this season, its plain for all to see and I'm sure Coppell has realised it as well.

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by Gus the teenage cow » 11 Dec 2007 16:32

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West Stand Flash Simple fact is our defensive line has been very poor this season.
Personally I believe Marcus is mostly responsible for this as he does not command his area in the slightest, hence why our defenders have little faith in him.

Yes he was quality last season, hence why he topped the OPTA stats for most saves - But that doesn't hide the fact he has been very poor this season.

@ 38 the Club, the fans & most likely Marcus knows this will be his last season as our Number 1. We need to be looking to the future & younger keepers who are going to fill the sticks for the foreseeable future.


he topped the opta stats becuase our porous defence let the oppostition take the most shots at him, of which he saved a bigger number than anyone else
and i think the defence is a group thing, theyve all been off their game a little, and this has affected the others. its CBs for letting people waltz through and take pot shots, nowt to do with their worries over marcus
and in reverse its his fault when he comes and flaps at a cross.



i don't think its advisable to refer to the opta stats to back up ur argument


thats akin to saying groups that sell the most records are the best

the game is the game, not the stats


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by Baines » 11 Dec 2007 16:37

Gus the teenage cow hence Man Knighted's(pun on Manc's pronunciation of their club and reference to Alex's Sirness, quite cleverly done if i do say so myself)



A bit laboured really Gus. And if you feel that you had to explain it, then it rather suggests that you don't think it's very good either.

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by Gus the teenage cow » 11 Dec 2007 16:39

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Gus the teenage cow hence Man Knighted's(pun on Manc's pronunciation of their club and reference to Alex's Sirness, quite cleverly done if i do say so myself)



A bit laboured really Gus. And if you feel that you had to explain it, then it rather suggests that you don't think it's very good either.


I actually did think it was very good :lol:

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by brendywendy » 11 Dec 2007 16:39

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West Stand Flash Simple fact is our defensive line has been very poor this season.
Personally I believe Marcus is mostly responsible for this as he does not command his area in the slightest, hence why our defenders have little faith in him.

Yes he was quality last season, hence why he topped the OPTA stats for most saves - But that doesn't hide the fact he has been very poor this season.

@ 38 the Club, the fans & most likely Marcus knows this will be his last season as our Number 1. We need to be looking to the future & younger keepers who are going to fill the sticks for the foreseeable future.


he topped the opta stats becuase our porous defence let the oppostition take the most shots at him, of which he saved a bigger number than anyone else
and i think the defence is a group thing, theyve all been off their game a little, and this has affected the others. its CBs for letting people waltz through and take pot shots, nowt to do with their worries over marcus
and in reverse its his fault when he comes and flaps at a cross.



i don't think its advisable to refer to the opta stats to back up ur argument


thats akin to saying groups that sell the most records are the best

the game is the game, not the stats


erm.......... thats what i said :roll:

i was stating that he was top of the stats becuase he had alot of shots to stop, rather than becuase he was the best keeper, in reply to WSF mentioning the OPTA stats

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by southbank1871 » 11 Dec 2007 16:44

Gus the teenage cow
i don't think its advisable to refer to the opta stats to back up ur argument

thats akin to saying groups that sell the most records are the best


It's actually nothing like that, but carry on.


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by Gus the teenage cow » 11 Dec 2007 16:45

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West Stand Flash Simple fact is our defensive line has been very poor this season.
Personally I believe Marcus is mostly responsible for this as he does not command his area in the slightest, hence why our defenders have little faith in him.

Yes he was quality last season, hence why he topped the OPTA stats for most saves - But that doesn't hide the fact he has been very poor this season.

@ 38 the Club, the fans & most likely Marcus knows this will be his last season as our Number 1. We need to be looking to the future & younger keepers who are going to fill the sticks for the foreseeable future.


i was referring to the post of WSF so why the :roll:

:roll:

he topped the opta stats becuase our porous defence let the oppostition take the most shots at him, of which he saved a bigger number than anyone else
and i think the defence is a group thing, theyve all been off their game a little, and this has affected the others. its CBs for letting people waltz through and take pot shots, nowt to do with their worries over marcus
and in reverse its his fault when he comes and flaps at a cross.



i don't think its advisable to refer to the opta stats to back up ur argument


thats akin to saying groups that sell the most records are the best

the game is the game, not the stats


erm.......... thats what i said :roll:

i was stating that he was top of the stats becuase he had alot of shots to stop, rather than becuase he was the best keeper, in reply to WSF mentioning the OPTA stats


yes i was referring to the post of WSF so why the :roll:

:roll:

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by brendywendy » 11 Dec 2007 16:47

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West Stand Flash Simple fact is our defensive line has been very poor this season.
Personally I believe Marcus is mostly responsible for this as he does not command his area in the slightest, hence why our defenders have little faith in him.

Yes he was quality last season, hence why he topped the OPTA stats for most saves - But that doesn't hide the fact he has been very poor this season.

@ 38 the Club, the fans & most likely Marcus knows this will be his last season as our Number 1. We need to be looking to the future & younger keepers who are going to fill the sticks for the foreseeable future.


i was referring to the post of WSF so why the :roll:


:roll:

he topped the opta stats becuase our porous defence let the oppostition take the most shots at him, of which he saved a bigger number than anyone else
and i think the defence is a group thing, theyve all been off their game a little, and this has affected the others. its CBs for letting people waltz through and take pot shots, nowt to do with their worries over marcus
and in reverse its his fault when he comes and flaps at a cross.



i don't think its advisable to refer to the opta stats to back up ur argument


thats akin to saying groups that sell the most records are the best

the game is the game, not the stats


erm.......... thats what i said :roll:

i was stating that he was top of the stats becuase he had alot of shots to stop, rather than becuase he was the best keeper, in reply to WSF mentioning the OPTA stats


yes i was referring to the post of WSF so why the :roll:

:roll:

perhaps becuase you quoted me instead of WSF? :wink: :roll:
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by Gus the teenage cow » 11 Dec 2007 16:47

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i don't think its advisable to refer to the opta stats to back up ur argument

thats akin to saying groups that sell the most records are the best


It's actually nothing like that, but carry on.


ok you make a better analogy, it'll do for the purposes of the endpoint as far as i'm concerned but carry on Einstein

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by southbank1871 » 11 Dec 2007 16:56

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i don't think its advisable to refer to the opta stats to back up ur argument

thats akin to saying groups that sell the most records are the best


It's actually nothing like that, but carry on.


ok you make a better analogy, it'll do for the purposes of the endpoint as far as i'm concerned but carry on Einstein


If Marcus had been voted best keeper in the Premier League then that would be more akin to your analogy.

What's happened to you anyway Augustus? You've gone from being a thickie fisherman to just plain irritating.

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by Gus the teenage cow » 11 Dec 2007 17:14

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i don't think its advisable to refer to the opta stats to back up ur argument

thats akin to saying groups that sell the most records are the best


It's actually nothing like that, but carry on.


ok you make a better analogy, it'll do for the purposes of the endpoint as far as i'm concerned but carry on Einstein


If Marcus had been voted best keeper in the Premier League then that would be more akin to your analogy.

What's happened to you anyway Augustus? You've gone from being a thickie fisherman to just plain irritating.


I'd call that progression although my ultimate aim is to to espouse the grandeur, daring and authoritiveness of a Roman scholar :shock: :D :lol: :oops: :wink: :mrgreen:

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by Rich@Eaststand » 11 Dec 2007 17:14

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Royalee He had a decent game on Saturday - the whole team did.

I'd like to see you watch some of the other games this season and relay the facts from those games though.


You still don't get it!

I know full well that he hasn't been great this season and I am the first to say that his kicking is normally awful and he doesn't come for enough crosses and he is slow off his line.

But the point is that I don't say any of that when he has a good game, as it just clouds the minds of others who didnt see the game in to thinking that 'Marcus was shit' again, when that is not the case.


He didn't have a good game - he had an ok game which is pretty much the best we have got out of him since the opening day of the season.

A bit worrying that you are wetting yourself over it!

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by Ian Royal » 11 Dec 2007 17:40

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Royalee He had a decent game on Saturday - the whole team did.

I'd like to see you watch some of the other games this season and relay the facts from those games though.


You still don't get it!

I know full well that he hasn't been great this season and I am the first to say that his kicking is normally awful and he doesn't come for enough crosses and he is slow off his line.

But the point is that I don't say any of that when he has a good game, as it just clouds the minds of others who didnt see the game in to thinking that 'Marcus was shit' again, when that is not the case.


He didn't have a good game - he had an ok game which is pretty much the best we have got out of him since the opening day of the season.

A bit worrying that you are wetting yourself over it!


Balls, he put in a couple of cracking perfomances at the start of the season when the team were doing ok.

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