by Stranded » 14 Jan 2008 10:45
by Royal Rother » 14 Jan 2008 10:47
Hoop BlahRoyal Rother I asked the question how will they react, not for a mini-diatribe about how spoilt they are.
Can you answer the question?
I'd hope that they try to prove they're as good if not better than the new arrival.
I'd hope that they prove their worth and importance to the team and then go to the club and ask for parity with those players they feel of equal worth to.
As we spend longer in this division, hopefully that is, we'll have to pay closer to the going rate. With the extra revenue that'd coming in that shouldn't be too hard even if we don't have a sugar daddy willing to match some of the less frugal owners in the league.
by ankeny » 14 Jan 2008 10:51
Row Z Royal Don't worry, Floyd, there will be three teams worse than us at the end of the season.
by Schards#2 » 14 Jan 2008 10:52
PlatypussSchards#2PlatypussSchards#2PlatypussSchards#2Platypuss "The trademark feeble response to anyone who takes issue with platypuss.
Less effort than discussing the issues I suppose."
It's my standard response to people who have amply proven that they are incapable of discussion, yes.
Is there a problem with that?
No, just overwhelming indifference.
Obviously.
I can honestly say I NEVER saw that coming. No, really, it genuinely wasn't the most predictable post ever made.
It didn't really deserve anything else, though, did it?
Keep up the indifference, it's rather amusing.
The tragedy is that you appear to consider these sort of purile responses clever in some way.
But that your tragedy, not mine, I really don't care beyond making passing comment whilst holding on the phone. It's that or stare into space but if it makes you feel good, you knock yourself out.
While of course I am hanging on your every word and am not treating this as a petit divertissement at all.
by cmonurz » 14 Jan 2008 10:53
by Platypuss » 14 Jan 2008 10:58
cmonurz What a strange way of looking at things RR. Why not the scenario where the expensive £40k per week signing makes a telling contribution in that game, securing a victory, and making it 2 wins from 4 games?
by Dr Hfuhruhurr » 14 Jan 2008 10:59
by papereyes » 14 Jan 2008 11:00
Dr Hfuhruhurr So, essentially, we shouldnt sign anyone in case they make a mistake?
by Platypuss » 14 Jan 2008 11:00
Schards#2PlatypussSchards#2PlatypussSchards#2PlatypussSchards#2Platypuss "The trademark feeble response to anyone who takes issue with platypuss.
Less effort than discussing the issues I suppose."
It's my standard response to people who have amply proven that they are incapable of discussion, yes.
Is there a problem with that?
No, just overwhelming indifference.
Obviously.
I can honestly say I NEVER saw that coming. No, really, it genuinely wasn't the most predictable post ever made.
It didn't really deserve anything else, though, did it?
Keep up the indifference, it's rather amusing.
The tragedy is that you appear to consider these sort of purile responses clever in some way.
But that your tragedy, not mine, I really don't care beyond making passing comment whilst holding on the phone. It's that or stare into space but if it makes you feel good, you knock yourself out.
While of course I am hanging on your every word and am not treating this as a petit divertissement at all.
Damn, my money was on the next response being
"has Frimley GreenShotspur stolen your log in?"
I've got to go and see a client now so won't be posting for a couple of hours but if it makes you feel good about yourself, feel free to tell yourself that i've stopped responding because you've hammered me into submission with your superior intellect and debating skills. You can have that little moment on me.
by Barry the bird boggler » 14 Jan 2008 11:00
by Huntley & Palmer » 14 Jan 2008 11:04
Royal RotherHoop BlahRoyal Rother I asked the question how will they react, not for a mini-diatribe about how spoilt they are.
Can you answer the question?
I'd hope that they try to prove they're as good if not better than the new arrival.
I'd hope that they prove their worth and importance to the team and then go to the club and ask for parity with those players they feel of equal worth to.
As we spend longer in this division, hopefully that is, we'll have to pay closer to the going rate. With the extra revenue that'd coming in that shouldn't be too hard even if we don't have a sugar daddy willing to match some of the less frugal owners in the league.
As I've said, I hope so too but chips are down, we need 3 wins from the last 5 games and new player on £40k pw hasn't settled in but is still getting a place in front of say, Ingi. 1-0 with 5 minutes to go and new signing makes a calamitous cock-up that results in a late goal and we now need 3 wins in 4 games.
Perhaps I'm being somehow fatalistic but I just fear that the reaction from the team mates when that new player is selected in front of Ingi again for the next game would not be great, and anything that undoes a percentage of team spirit when those chips are down is bad news.
Anyway, that's my fear, even though I do basically agree with what you and H&P have said.
by cmonurz » 14 Jan 2008 11:08
by Royal Rother » 14 Jan 2008 11:10
Platypusscmonurz What a strange way of looking at things RR. Why not the scenario where the expensive £40k per week signing makes a telling contribution in that game, securing a victory, and making it 2 wins from 4 games?
Indeed.
Somewhat odd to profess to not understand how people can be pessimistic and without balance, but can only see negatives when an expensive new signing is involved.
by Royal Rother » 14 Jan 2008 11:12
Huntley & PalmerRoyal RotherHoop BlahRoyal Rother I asked the question how will they react, not for a mini-diatribe about how spoilt they are.
Can you answer the question?
I'd hope that they try to prove they're as good if not better than the new arrival.
I'd hope that they prove their worth and importance to the team and then go to the club and ask for parity with those players they feel of equal worth to.
As we spend longer in this division, hopefully that is, we'll have to pay closer to the going rate. With the extra revenue that'd coming in that shouldn't be too hard even if we don't have a sugar daddy willing to match some of the less frugal owners in the league.
As I've said, I hope so too but chips are down, we need 3 wins from the last 5 games and new player on £40k pw hasn't settled in but is still getting a place in front of say, Ingi. 1-0 with 5 minutes to go and new signing makes a calamitous cock-up that results in a late goal and we now need 3 wins in 4 games.
Perhaps I'm being somehow fatalistic but I just fear that the reaction from the team mates when that new player is selected in front of Ingi again for the next game would not be great, and anything that undoes a percentage of team spirit when those chips are down is bad news.
Anyway, that's my fear, even though I do basically agree with what you and H&P have said.
I think the disappointing thing for me and, I assume, other people is that if new players are not available then we would make the best of the squad we have. I had hoped that starting Pearce as replacement for Sonko would serve two purposes, give everyone an idea of how the player would get on at a level we need him to play at and also send a message to players like Ivar, Doobs, Sonks etc that we are willing to push them with youth and test their ability to play at a high level. I would like to see Pearce and Henry start against Spurs, possibly even Karacan as well. If they play well against a strong Premiership outfit then perhaps the players currently out there might receive the reality check they need and kick on to the level we know they can play at.
by Platypuss » 14 Jan 2008 11:16
Royal RotherPlatypusscmonurz What a strange way of looking at things RR. Why not the scenario where the expensive £40k per week signing makes a telling contribution in that game, securing a victory, and making it 2 wins from 4 games?
Indeed.
Somewhat odd to profess to not understand how people can be pessimistic and without balance, but can only see negatives when an expensive new signing is involved.
It is a given that there might be a positive impact (and by inference assumed by most posters that there would be) I am just giving the balancing view;.
by Hoop Blah » 14 Jan 2008 11:24
by West Stand Flash » 14 Jan 2008 11:27
Hoop Blah RR, what about the scenario where the players in the squad that are good enough to play at this level feel they're being held back because the club won't bring in players good enough to support them in the battle?
How about the scenario where we enter a really tough run of games that we need to get something out of it with say, only one fit recognised centre half. Or maybe our centre forwards are playing out of form or like flogged horses due to the massive workload placed on them due to the current squad mistakes?
There is obviously a risk to bringing in players, they might not settle, they might not bond with the squad etc etc, but they are possible outcomes. Right now we know we have big gapping holes in the squad. To do nothing about it has to be worse than cautiously shying away from potential disharmony because of eventualities that are only slight possibilities.
by Huntley & Palmer » 14 Jan 2008 11:27
Royal RotherHuntley & PalmerRoyal RotherHoop BlahRoyal Rother I asked the question how will they react, not for a mini-diatribe about how spoilt they are.
Can you answer the question?
I'd hope that they try to prove they're as good if not better than the new arrival.
I'd hope that they prove their worth and importance to the team and then go to the club and ask for parity with those players they feel of equal worth to.
As we spend longer in this division, hopefully that is, we'll have to pay closer to the going rate. With the extra revenue that'd coming in that shouldn't be too hard even if we don't have a sugar daddy willing to match some of the less frugal owners in the league.
As I've said, I hope so too but chips are down, we need 3 wins from the last 5 games and new player on £40k pw hasn't settled in but is still getting a place in front of say, Ingi. 1-0 with 5 minutes to go and new signing makes a calamitous cock-up that results in a late goal and we now need 3 wins in 4 games.
Perhaps I'm being somehow fatalistic but I just fear that the reaction from the team mates when that new player is selected in front of Ingi again for the next game would not be great, and anything that undoes a percentage of team spirit when those chips are down is bad news.
Anyway, that's my fear, even though I do basically agree with what you and H&P have said.
I think the disappointing thing for me and, I assume, other people is that if new players are not available then we would make the best of the squad we have. I had hoped that starting Pearce as replacement for Sonko would serve two purposes, give everyone an idea of how the player would get on at a level we need him to play at and also send a message to players like Ivar, Doobs, Sonks etc that we are willing to push them with youth and test their ability to play at a high level. I would like to see Pearce and Henry start against Spurs, possibly even Karacan as well. If they play well against a strong Premiership outfit then perhaps the players currently out there might receive the reality check they need and kick on to the level we know they can play at.
I have to say I would far far rather we went down having taken that gamble than having spent £30m on new players... and if we stayed up, what a way to do it!!
by Platypuss » 14 Jan 2008 11:27
Hoop Blah RR, what about the scenario where the players in the squad that are good enough to play at this level feel they're being held back because the club won't bring in players good enough to support them in the battle?
by Stranded » 14 Jan 2008 11:27
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