by Huntley & Palmer » 21 Apr 2008 09:27
by Seal » 21 Apr 2008 14:53
by boycey » 21 Apr 2008 15:00
Seal To be fair to Arsenal, Reading at home is hardly the fixture they circle at the beginning of the season. No suprise they weren't particularly up for it,
I was there with some Gooners for both the Spurs & Man U home games and the atmosphere was pretty good. The other main difference was that the away fans all stood for the entire game and did a pretty decent job of outsinging the home fans. We failed miserably on both counts.
Personally, I completely appreciate that all these threads about atmosphere are pretty dull for any of you who have no real interest in such things. However, I became a passionate fan of RFC because of the time I spent watching them as a kid and teenager in the 90's on the southbank. It was the atmosphere and banter with opposition fans that pulled me in and made me commit a sizeable chunk of my life and finances to supporting this club. If those factors hadn't been there, I sincerly doubt I would have become the ardent fan that I am now.
Therefore when one travels to away games like Saturday, and is left left so disheartened by the experience, no only by the performance on the pitch but because one of your primary loves for following RFC (i.e. the singing and banter) is non existent, it makes the fact for a pretty depressing day.
I'd prettty much given up on getting any atmopshere at home, unless you're over in the SE corner, but to lose it away to makes me wonder what's the point in going anymore. That left side / right side bit was as animated as it got, and even that was done half heartedly. The Arsenal fans I know didn't even hear it.
by biscuitsrus » 21 Apr 2008 15:03
by Tony Le Mesmer » 21 Apr 2008 15:20
Chillitsphilhandbags_harris It's almost every pissin game, another thread about the shite amosphere. It's getting somewhat tedious now.
I travelled yesterday to my 195th consecutive match home and away, league and cup (wooo, look at me ) and I quite honestly enjoyed it as much as I would a bullet in my head. it was the most pointless "competitive" match I've been to in all my 20 years of watching RFC. I was bored shitless, knowing full well that I was there to watch the inevitable away defeat to a far far superior side. I also knew that I'd be sat around a bunch of day tripping knob jocks who were there mainly so that they could say they'd been to the Emirates. I couldn't be arsed with the result, I was actually pleased with a 2-0 defeat (which pissed on my argument that we shouldn't turn up and forfeit the game with a compulsory 3-0 defeat), quite pleased with a couple of the moves we strung together in the 2nd half. But in all I couldn't have been less enthusiastic if I tried, because I'm tired and bored of the Premier League malarky. Bring me Championship football any day - cheaper, more matches, better class of opposition fan leading to much more fun days out.
Spot on, excellent post.
by boycey » 21 Apr 2008 15:31
Tony Le MesmerChillitsphilhandbags_harris If we stay up, ill probably not bother going away at all next season.
by Seal » 21 Apr 2008 15:52
Huntley & Palmer This can go and and sit with the other threads on our support. Oh, and who in the hell went there for the football yesterday? It was all about the drinking surely
by NWL Royal » 21 Apr 2008 15:55
Seal To be fair to Arsenal, Reading at home is hardly the fixture they circle at the beginning of the season. No suprise they weren't particularly up for it,
I was there with some Gooners for both the Spurs & Man U home games and the atmosphere was pretty good. The other main difference was that the away fans all stood for the entire game and did a pretty decent job of outsinging the home fans. We failed miserably on both counts.
Personally, I completely appreciate that all these threads about atmosphere are pretty dull for any of you who have no real interest in such things. However, I became a passionate fan of RFC because of the time I spent watching them as a kid and teenager in the 90's on the southbank. It was the atmosphere and banter with opposition fans that pulled me in and made me commit a sizeable chunk of my life and finances to supporting this club. If those factors hadn't been there, I sincerly doubt I would have become the ardent fan that I am now.
Therefore when one travels to away games like Saturday, and is left left so disheartened by the experience, no only by the performance on the pitch but because one of your primary loves for following RFC (i.e. the singing and banter) is non existent, it makes the fact for a pretty depressing day.
I'd prettty much given up on getting any atmopshere at home, unless you're over in the SE corner, but to lose it away to makes me wonder what's the point in going anymore. That left side / right side bit was as animated as it got, and even that was done half heartedly. The Arsenal fans I know didn't even hear it.
by madreadingfan » 21 Apr 2008 16:34
by Silver Fox » 21 Apr 2008 16:53
by biscuitsrus » 21 Apr 2008 18:43
Silver Fox I had a fantastic day at Fulham away and didn't have to stand throughout to do so, but then I'm not mad
by Huntley & Palmer » 22 Apr 2008 12:55
Seal To be fair to Arsenal, Reading at home is hardly the fixture they circle at the beginning of the season. No suprise they weren't particularly up for it,
I was there with some Gooners for both the Spurs & Man U home games and the atmosphere was pretty good. The other main difference was that the away fans all stood for the entire game and did a pretty decent job of outsinging the home fans. We failed miserably on both counts.
Personally, I completely appreciate that all these threads about atmosphere are pretty dull for any of you who have no real interest in such things. However, I became a passionate fan of RFC because of the time I spent watching them as a kid and teenager in the 90's on the southbank. It was the atmosphere and banter with opposition fans that pulled me in and made me commit a sizeable chunk of my life and finances to supporting this club. If those factors hadn't been there, I sincerly doubt I would have become the ardent fan that I am now.
Therefore when one travels to away games like Saturday, and is left left so disheartened by the experience, no only by the performance on the pitch but because one of your primary loves for following RFC (i.e. the singing and banter) is non existent, it makes the fact for a pretty depressing day.
I'd prettty much given up on getting any atmopshere at home, unless you're over in the SE corner, but to lose it away to makes me wonder what's the point in going anymore. That left side / right side bit was as animated as it got, and even that was done half heartedly. The Arsenal fans I know didn't even hear it.
by Seal » 22 Apr 2008 13:42
Huntley & PalmerSeal To be fair to Arsenal, Reading at home is hardly the fixture they circle at the beginning of the season. No suprise they weren't particularly up for it,
I was there with some Gooners for both the Spurs & Man U home games and the atmosphere was pretty good. The other main difference was that the away fans all stood for the entire game and did a pretty decent job of outsinging the home fans. We failed miserably on both counts.
Personally, I completely appreciate that all these threads about atmosphere are pretty dull for any of you who have no real interest in such things. However, I became a passionate fan of RFC because of the time I spent watching them as a kid and teenager in the 90's on the southbank. It was the atmosphere and banter with opposition fans that pulled me in and made me commit a sizeable chunk of my life and finances to supporting this club. If those factors hadn't been there, I sincerly doubt I would have become the ardent fan that I am now.
Therefore when one travels to away games like Saturday, and is left left so disheartened by the experience, no only by the performance on the pitch but because one of your primary loves for following RFC (i.e. the singing and banter) is non existent, it makes the fact for a pretty depressing day.
I'd prettty much given up on getting any atmopshere at home, unless you're over in the SE corner, but to lose it away to makes me wonder what's the point in going anymore. That left side / right side bit was as animated as it got, and even that was done half heartedly. The Arsenal fans I know didn't even hear it.
Quite simply, if this lack of atmosphere disheartens you so much. Why don't you just not go?
by .:BigDaveInTheDungeon:. » 22 Apr 2008 13:43
Huntley & PalmerSeal To be fair to Arsenal, Reading at home is hardly the fixture they circle at the beginning of the season. No suprise they weren't particularly up for it,
I was there with some Gooners for both the Spurs & Man U home games and the atmosphere was pretty good. The other main difference was that the away fans all stood for the entire game and did a pretty decent job of outsinging the home fans. We failed miserably on both counts.
Personally, I completely appreciate that all these threads about atmosphere are pretty dull for any of you who have no real interest in such things. However, I became a passionate fan of RFC because of the time I spent watching them as a kid and teenager in the 90's on the southbank. It was the atmosphere and banter with opposition fans that pulled me in and made me commit a sizeable chunk of my life and finances to supporting this club. If those factors hadn't been there, I sincerly doubt I would have become the ardent fan that I am now.
Therefore when one travels to away games like Saturday, and is left left so disheartened by the experience, no only by the performance on the pitch but because one of your primary loves for following RFC (i.e. the singing and banter) is non existent, it makes the fact for a pretty depressing day.
I'd prettty much given up on getting any atmopshere at home, unless you're over in the SE corner, but to lose it away to makes me wonder what's the point in going anymore. That left side / right side bit was as animated as it got, and even that was done half heartedly. The Arsenal fans I know didn't even hear it.
Quite simply, if this lack of atmosphere disheartens you so much. Why don't you just not go?
by Huntley & Palmer » 23 Apr 2008 10:38
by Seal » 23 Apr 2008 14:21
Huntley & Palmer So by standing up and blocking the view of those that wish to sit down, it will produce a better atmosphere? I venture that it won't make a blind bit of difference, you can't change the make up of an away following. We have always had a mixture of hardcore away fans which has always been pretty small (note the severe reduction in AST holders this season) and those that pick and choose their games. Threads like this make me laugh, you can't force people to do what they don't want to do. I stood up a couple of times at Arsenal, got asked to sit down a few times and did so. There were a few families around me and they were just as excitable as everyone else, singing along and standing up in the very few times we had an attempt on target or a corner. People that villify our away support really ought to just get on with it and worry about themselves, I'll do what I want thanks.
by Huntley & Palmer » 23 Apr 2008 14:48
by Seal » 23 Apr 2008 15:29
Huntley & Palmer :| You were the one banging on about other support and how they all stood up and were far more vocal than we were. RFC has never had a good away following, nor an oustandlingly vocal one since I have been able to go home and away regularly. Little pockets here and there but nothing more. The modernisation of football that you describe is a said indicament of where football is going, nothing can be done about that with all the money around and that doesn't even include the fans and what they pay. Living in the past is just a bit sad, though of course I am not allowed to question your point on an open forum
by Huntley & Palmer » 23 Apr 2008 15:41
by Seal » 23 Apr 2008 16:12
Huntley & Palmer I think it has been more to do with the make up of those crowds, which in turn has been directly proportional to the amount of people standing during said matches. Still, as you say, you have to pick and choose carefully on which game to go but I would agree in some part about the diluting of the atmosphere over the last ten years. For me that is the price of success, we can't have it both ways unfortunately. A trip to the New Den or Peterborough in Div 2 will always hold more for me than going to somewhere like Utd or Liverpool, it's just that the percentage of people that feel the same way is tiny
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