Starting 11 for first game of the championship

[Cripple Creek]

I, frankly, think it's quite feasible that the only player anyone in the prem will really want is Hunt and that's because Roy Keane seems (oddly, in my view) obsessed with him. However, realistically I think we'll also lose Marek. I'm not at all sure that people will be lining up to buy Nicky Shorey to be quite honest. On this basis my starting line up for first game of next season will, I believe, be:

Marcus,
Rosenoir,
Ingmarson,
Duberry,
Shorey,
Harper,
Convey,
Little,
Cisse,
Doyle,
Kitson

If Coppell decides to stay (which I do not believe he will for a minute) it may just get us back up again by which stage we will, hopefully, realise that it costs a lot of money to remain in the premiership.

I should add that I think this is a wildly optimistic scenario.

[Wycombe Royal]

Bit early for this isn't it?

[Schards#2]

I don't think it's possible to put a single name on that list at the moment given we have no idea who the manager may be.

Frankly, that scares the hell out of me.

[Alan Partridge]

I don't think it's possible to put a single name on that list at the moment given we have no idea who the manager may be.

Frankly, that scares the hell out of me.

Nor the retained list

Nor the possible ins and outs

[papereyes]

I really hope we keep Kitson. I think we're more likely to compared to Lita and Doyle, but his record at the lower level is fantastic and his contribution in other areas also massively outweights his more high-profile teammates.

But it all depends on, well, Coppell, then any replacement, then ...

Continuity > a fresh start

[loyalroyal4life]

I really hope we keep Kitson. I think we're more likely to compared to Lita and Doyle, but his record at the lower level is fantastic and his contribution in other areas also massively outweights his more high-profile teammates.

But it all depends on, well, Coppell, then any replacement, then ...

Continuity > a fresh start

All 3 of those strikers will score goals galore at champ level


ANd i agree we need current stability over fresh start to help bring us up straight away

shame it is not going to happen

[BR2]

Like a lot of you others I expect ,we spent the journey back looking ahead to next season and speculating.
The first obvious expectation is that Shorey plus a few obvious fringe players will leave.
My brother managed to convince me that our real problem(amongst others) has been playing two wingers who are both ineffective in that they can't cross nor provide defensive cover either to the two full-backs or to the two central midfielders.
On the basis that we play 4-4-2 and won't need a purely defensive central midfielder in the Championship,that we manage to hold on to our best two players,Doyle and Kitson and that we get money for Shorey and are prepared to spend an additional say £4 million (just a few assumptions) how about this for a first eleven come August:-

Marcus
Rosenior Bikey Duberry Lewington (from MK Dons)
Elliott (from Burnley) Harper Mateosky Hughes (from Pompey)
Doyle Kitson

If (and a big IF ) we could tempt Baines from Everton ,Kightley from Wolves and either Ledley from Cardiff or Surman from Saints even better but more importantly in the above set-up we would have a proper winger on the right and an orthodox tackling left-sided midfielder.
If Sunderland were prepared to pay anything for Hunt then even better but if Oster is still thought of as a regular right-winger then the future of our club will be as a Championship side at best.

At the back I think Bikey playing off Duberry is the best option that we have from current staff and Pearce might just progress that bit further and I have liked Lewington from his days as a very young player with Wimbledon who is more of a physical presence than Shorey.
Whatever else the club does it must pull out all stops to keep Doyle and Kitson.

The worst news would be that the club announces it's first signing which turns out to be Ivar,Halls or Oster being offered a new contract.

[Platypuss]

I am convinced you lot are taking the piss.

is it really too hard to check if the same topic is not already being discussed elsewhere?

[Smoking Kills Dancing Doe]

Marcus
New LB
Bikey
Pearce
Rosenior
Convey
Marek/Harps
New Holding Mid
New RW
Up front, 2 of the 4 we already have, plus 2 more.

So as everyone has already said, the changes we needed last season, plus a new left back.

With our recent transfer history, I would not hold my breath.

[Big Ern]

Like a lot of you others I expect ,we spent the journey back looking ahead to next season and speculating.
The first obvious expectation is that Shorey plus a few obvious fringe players will leave.
My brother managed to convince me that our real problem(amongst others) has been playing two wingers who are both ineffective in that they can't cross nor provide defensive cover either to the two full-backs or to the two central midfielders.
On the basis that we play 4-4-2 and won't need a purely defensive central midfielder in the Championship,that we manage to hold on to our best two players,Doyle and Kitson and that we get money for Shorey and are prepared to spend an additional say £4 million (just a few assumptions) how about this for a first eleven come August:-

Marcus
Rosenior Bikey Duberry Lewington (from MK Dons)
Elliott (from Burnley) Harper Mateosky Hughes (from Pompey)
Doyle Kitson

If (and a big IF ) we could tempt Baines from Everton ,Kightley from Wolves and either Ledley from Cardiff or Surman from Saints even better but more importantly in the above set-up we would have a proper winger on the right and an orthodox tackling left-sided midfielder.
If Sunderland were prepared to pay anything for Hunt then even better but if Oster is still thought of as a regular right-winger then the future of our club will be as a Championship side at best.

At the back I think Bikey playing off Duberry is the best option that we have from current staff and Pearce might just progress that bit further and I have liked Lewington from his days as a very young player with Wimbledon who is more of a physical presence than Shorey.
Whatever else the club does it must pull out all stops to keep Doyle and Kitson.

The worst news would be that the club announces it's first signing which turns out to be Ivar,Halls or Oster being offered a new contract.

This is either:

a) A Joke
b) Wirtten by a 5 year old
c) from someone with no idea about football


Really, Baines from Everton - you are having a fooking laugh mate. Why would Knightly want to move from Wolves? they are in the same division as us and Wolves are a bigger club. Ledley will go to a Premiership club and with Cardiff putting a proce of £8million on him, then theres no chance. Plus and additional £4MILLION to spend???? If the club won;t spend £$million while in the Premiership, whats the chances of us doing that in the Championship...thats right..FECK ALL

You make winchester_royal look intelligent.

In short, you are a deluded twat. Wake up and get real as you are going to be disspointed.

[BR2]

I am convinced you lot are taking the piss.

is it really too hard to check if the same topic is not already being discussed elsewhere?

Considered reprimanded-I started my topic at about 10 o'clock(when there was nothing about a starting eleven for next season) but had work interruptions so that eventually it appeared later than this one.
That is my case for the defence which may be as weak as ours has been this season at times.

[sucatraps]

I am convinced you lot are taking the piss.

is it really too hard to check if the same topic is not already being discussed elsewhere?

Agreed, apologies and merge!

[Z175]

Hahneman

Golbourne
Ingimarson
Sonko
Murty

Convey
Harper
Matejovsky
Kightly

Kitson
Doyle

-----
Federici
Bikey
Gunnarson
Little
Long


-OUT Shorey £4.5m, Lita £4m, Hunt £4m, Oster £nil, Fae £nil
-IN Kightly £4m

Reading 1-2 Plymouth Argyle.
....followed by 106 points

[Jack Celliers]

There is nothing like some rampant speculation to fill a summer full of rumours and ultimate transfer disappointment.

Manager: Glenn Hoddle or Eamon Dolan, announced after a huge amount of pre-press conference speculation

Team:
Adam Federici

Rosenior
Ingemarrson
Bikey
Somebody new - perhaps Ashley Cole

Oster
Harper
Marek
Somebody new - Richardson from Sunderland

Doyle
Somebody new - A Mali international who scores lots of goals in Belgium

We'll buy about seven players, but a couple will be injured and one will be too crap ever to play. Harper will be the only one of the Premiership-quality quartet to stay: Hunt, Kitson and Shorey will be off. Hahnemann will go as well. Cisse, Sonko and Fae will not all have moved out by the end of the transfer window, so will get back into the team after a few poor results in the early autumn. We'll win some and lose a few. The play-offs will all look our most likely bet, until a couple of our youth players return from loans and have storming games in a joyous cup run, and make massive contributions as we go on an unbeaten run that takes us to the Premiership again, after victory on the last day of the season.

[Irvinchangeyaname]

I sincerely hope Doobs is retained (not sure of his contract position?) but thought he was immense yesterday. He's got the experience that could be the difference in the Championship. Certainly did well at Stoke.

[LoyalRoyal22]

Like a lot of you others I expect ,we spent the journey back looking ahead to next season and speculating.
The first obvious expectation is that Shorey plus a few obvious fringe players will leave.
My brother managed to convince me that our real problem(amongst others) has been playing two wingers who are both ineffective in that they can't cross nor provide defensive cover either to the two full-backs or to the two central midfielders.
On the basis that we play 4-4-2 and won't need a purely defensive central midfielder in the Championship,that we manage to hold on to our best two players,Doyle and Kitson and that we get money for Shorey and are prepared to spend an additional say £4 million (just a few assumptions) how about this for a first eleven come August:-

Marcus
Rosenior Bikey Duberry Lewington (from MK Dons)
Elliott (from Burnley) Harper Mateosky Hughes (from Pompey)
Doyle Kitson






If (and a big IF ) we could tempt Baines from Everton ,Kightley from Wolves and either Ledley from Cardiff or Surman from Saints even better but more importantly in the above set-up we would have a proper winger on the right and an orthodox tackling left-sided midfielder.
If Sunderland were prepared to pay anything for Hunt then even better but if Oster is still thought of as a regular right-winger then the future of our club will be as a Championship side at best.

At the back I think Bikey playing off Duberry is the best option that we have from current staff and Pearce might just progress that bit further and I have liked Lewington from his days as a very young player with Wimbledon who is more of a physical presence than Shorey.
Whatever else the club does it must pull out all stops to keep Doyle and Kitson.

The worst news would be that the club announces it's first signing which turns out to be Ivar,Halls or Oster being offered a new contract.

What??? Ivar not being offered a new deal. Asif. He be quality centre-half in championship

[LoyalRoyal22]

Depending on leaves, this team would be more than equipped to come straight back up...

Marcus
Murty/Rosenior
New left Back
Ivar
Duberry/Sonko/Bikey/Cisse
Little
Convey
Harper(hopefully)
Matejovsky(hopefully)
Kitson
Lita

i can see Shorey, Hunt, and Doyle leaving. Hopefully with the cash we can bring some fresh blood in.

The thought of Convey and Little back on the wings is a good prospect.

[BR2]

Like a lot of you others I expect ,we spent the journey back looking ahead to next season and speculating.
The first obvious expectation is that Shorey plus a few obvious fringe players will leave.
My brother managed to convince me that our real problem(amongst others) has been playing two wingers who are both ineffective in that they can't cross nor provide defensive cover either to the two full-backs or to the two central midfielders.
On the basis that we play 4-4-2 and won't need a purely defensive central midfielder in the Championship,that we manage to hold on to our best two players,Doyle and Kitson and that we get money for Shorey and are prepared to spend an additional say £4 million (just a few assumptions) how about this for a first eleven come August:-

Marcus
Rosenior Bikey Duberry Lewington (from MK Dons)
Elliott (from Burnley) Harper Mateosky Hughes (from Pompey)
Doyle Kitson

If (and a big IF ) we could tempt Baines from Everton ,Kightley from Wolves and either Ledley from Cardiff or Surman from Saints even better but more importantly in the above set-up we would have a proper winger on the right and an orthodox tackling left-sided midfielder.
If Sunderland were prepared to pay anything for Hunt then even better but if Oster is still thought of as a regular right-winger then the future of our club will be as a Championship side at best.

At the back I think Bikey playing off Duberry is the best option that we have from current staff and Pearce might just progress that bit further and I have liked Lewington from his days as a very young player with Wimbledon who is more of a physical presence than Shorey.
Whatever else the club does it must pull out all stops to keep Doyle and Kitson.

The worst news would be that the club announces it's first signing which turns out to be Ivar,Halls or Oster being offered a new contract.

This is either:

a) A Joke
b) Wirtten by a 5 year old
c) from someone with no idea about football


Really, Baines from Everton - you are having a fooking laugh mate. Why would Knightly want to move from Wolves? they are in the same division as us and Wolves are a bigger club. Ledley will go to a Premiership club and with Cardiff putting a proce of £8million on him, then theres no chance. Plus and additional £4MILLION to spend???? If the club won;t spend £$million while in the Premiership, whats the chances of us doing that in the Championship...thats right..FECK ALL

You make winchester_royal look intelligent.

Big Ern or is it Big Mouth?
Ambition-that is what we hear from the club about next season and we are laden with £30 million plus from a parachute payment.
We will also receive money from the sale of Shorey so that makes us one of the richest clubs in The Championship especially with the money sqirrelled away from this season.
Cardiff,Wolves and Southampton all clubs with money worries so why wouldn't players who have seen their club fail to make the play-offs this season consider joining a club with intent to make it back up to The Premiership rather than stay with clubs that are merely surviving?

As for Baines will anyone of the better clubs come in for him after a season on the bench and whose career has gone backwards?
Nothing ventured,nothing gained and don't forget it's not so long ago that we were able to buy all of the better lower division players that we wanted and even bought Caskey from Spurs (a Premier League club don't forget) when we were still at Elm Park with never more than 12,000 watching-the same Caskey who a couple of years previously had captained England U21s including Beckham et al.
So don't be so small minded and perhaps a bit less mouthy.

The club has promised a review of all things and that must include transfers/wages and with a chairman who just loves rubbing shoulders with the rich and famous can you believe that he will be content to see us in the Championship where the rubbing of shoulders just won't happen?
No,I'm convinced that we will go back to those lower division days when we bought the best at our level (Fozzy,Butler,Murty etc all for approaching £1million a time)and Kightley,Ledley,Surman and so on should be within our range and fit the criterion of being eager and hungry and who knows we might do a Caskey again and pick up a Premiership player or two

"In short, you are a deluded twat. Wake up and get real as you are going to be disspointed.

"-this quote is a bit much on a day when we are all feeling a bit down and I am far from deluded and have never been an RTG but I do feel that the chairman will see the light especially now that the sale value of the club will have reduced drastically and the only way he could sell for the money that he wants is for us to be a Premiership club again.

[cornwalls]

I feel that some of teh fringe players wil be used alot more next season, and we will finish in teh top 4, hopefully top place, i think some fresh blood is s must as most teams have played our type of football and will know what to expect.

[Northern Git]

Think we are going to see just what JMs ambitions are over the coming months.

Option one. SC goes. Large proportion of the team leaves, (Shorey, Long, Kitson, Merek etc) replaced by lower division / eastern block wanabees plus the odd past it Premier player looking to top their pension up.
Start the new season with fingers crossed and hope new players and manager gell and we make a go at getting back up.

Option two. SC stays, existing top players kept (listen lads we won’t drop your wages back, give us a season and if we don’t go straight back up you are free to leave), dead wood chopped. Few choice top quality players recruited. Best youngsters blooded in the first team.
Start new season knowing that you have a core of players (and manager) that are up to the challenge. Also know that should promotion be achieved we would not have to buy a whole new squad for season 2009 – 2010.

Would like to think that option two (or something close) is the way forward.

Option one will probably lead to a lot of pain and heartache.