Shorey - How much will he go for?

[Dirk Gently]

West Ham offered £4M for him in January. That was turned down because Leighton Baines had just gone from Wigan to Everton for £6M, and both RFC and NS agreed he was better than Baines.

But that was January - I think his stock has fallen quite a bit since then - as well as the time remaining on his contract - and it's also well-known that we need to reduce our wage bill.

So any bid is likely to be less than £3.5M, and we'll probably bite their hands off at that.

[Southbank Old Boy]

It does make me LOL @ how bitter RFC fans are when a player decides to go on and further their career. Whatever is said about Shorey and Sidwell about their contract situations etc, both of them will end up in the Premiership playing for clubs with far more ambition than us.

What are West Ham's ambitions for next season? Survival?

So, er, exactly the same as ours would be in the Prem.

It's about money. End of.

They've come a lot closer than us to winning something in recent times.

Just a couple of minutes away from an FA Cup win, and they were actually trying to win it, not fielding their reserves in the hope to avoid a few extra fixtures.

They're one of those mid table sides with real ambitions to push on and win a place in Europe. They wouldn't even contemplate throwing away European football for fear of having to increase the squad.

I've thought for a long time that giving up of Europe was the begining of the end as the players saw that RFC didn't want to achieve anything more than they already had.

[Horsham Royal]

3.5 million.
Don't forget Orient will get 15% as sell on so net for RFC about 3 mill.

[Ian Royal]

I certainly woundn't grudge Shorey moving on, as I didn't grudge Sidwell going. But then Sidwell put one of his best seasons for us whilst running down his contract.

Shorey put in one of his worst and caused all sorts of squad problems if you believe the rumours. He did not conduct himself well. Neither did he come out and salute the fans at the end of the season at Derby, despite most of the rest of the team doing so. Not even to say "So long and thanks for all the fish".

That is what has pissed me off.

[Royalee]

Neither did he come out and salute the fans at the end of the season at Derby, despite most of the rest of the team doing so.

Then again most of the team weren't booed when they took a corner in an important game the week before - why would he want to acknowledge the fans after all he's given to the club if that's the thanks he gets? I think he'd have been perfectly within his rights to stick two fingers up after the Derby game to idiots like yourself who don't recognise quality players when they see them and instead blindly applaud dross like Stephen Hunt and James Harper.

[PEARCEY]

Neither did he come out and salute the fans at the end of the season at Derby, despite most of the rest of the team doing so.

Then again most of the team weren't booed when they took a corner in an important game the week before - why would he want to acknowledge the fans after all he's given to the club if that's the thanks he gets? I think he'd have been perfectly within his rights to stick two fingers up after the Derby game to idiots like yourself who don't recognise quality players when they see them and instead blindly applaud dross like Stephen Hunt and James Harper.

Why did you have to resort to insults Royalee just because Ian doesn't share your opinion?

[Royalee]

Because he is insulting one of the best players ever to pull on a Reading shirt, along with my intelligence with every word he contributes.

[Ian Royal]

Because he is insulting one of the best players ever to pull on a Reading shirt, along with my intelligence with every word he contributes.

The only person I'm insulting is you. And thats because you have the intellect and charm of a baboon's arse.

It's laughable the way you acuse me of insulting one of our best ever players, when I frequently acknowledge how good he has been for us over the years, but give an honest assessment of his attitude and performance this season. When you bad mouth two players constantly who have been two of our better performers over 2 seasons in the premiership and also go down as reading greats/legends.

So who's the bigger fool there. I'll give you a clue, it isn't me.

[statto]

"All i saw from Shorey last season...was him getting stuffed for pace by utaka".


So a player, well known for being very quick, being much faster than him means he wasn't putting in any effort.


Good logic.

[Royalee]

Because he is insulting one of the best players ever to pull on a Reading shirt, along with my intelligence with every word he contributes.

The only person I'm insulting is you. And thats because you have the intellect and charm of a baboon's arse.

It's laughable the way you acuse me of insulting one of our best ever players, when I frequently acknowledge how good he has been for us over the years, but give an honest assessment of his attitude and performance this season. When you bad mouth two players constantly who have been two of our better performers over 2 seasons in the premiership and also go down as reading greats/legends.

So who's the bigger fool there. I'll give you a clue, it isn't me.

Harper and Hunt RFC legends?! Hahahahahahahaha, is Andy Hughes an RFC legend too then? He ran about a lot with no end product too, ignore the fact that without him we improved tenfold. If you had half a brain you'd accept that some players for all their huffing and puffing aren't good enough to go forward, whereas others (who you may mistake for 'not trying' by trying to remain calm under pressure and not ranting and raving and playing up to the fans) are much more effective, even if their demeanor is different.

[RobRoyal]

"All i saw from Shorey last season...was him getting stuffed for pace by utaka".


So a player, well known for being very quick, being much faster than him means he wasn't putting in any effort.


Good logic.

It also should be remembered he was unwell that day...

[Denver Royal]

I didn't grudge Sidwell going. But then Sidwell put one of his best seasons for us whilst running down his contract.

I agree, but you would never have known it by reading this forum a year or so ago.

I'll always remember the photograph in here of Shorey (who was the blue eyed boy at the time) together with Sidwell at Shorey's wedding. Sidwell was in the wedding party and people were posting stuff like 'Nicky you need to find better mates!'...'Sidwell is a a disruption in training and a cancer in the dressing room'...'Sidwell has a bad attitude, he just doesn't care or even try in games anymore'...'Sidwell should follow Shorey's example, be loyal to the club and not be a, well, greedy bollox'...and so on.

Yet here we are a year later, and we're talking up Sids, while Shorey is the villain. Oh, what a tangled web we weave...

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Then again most of the team weren't booed when they took a corner in an important game the week before - why would he want to acknowledge the fans after all he's given to the club if that's the thanks he gets? I think he'd have been perfectly within his rights to stick two fingers up after the Derby game to idiots like yourself who don't recognise quality players when they see them and instead blindly applaud dross like Stephen Hunt and James Harper.

SO a player who has been heavily supported and idolised for 6 years gets booed ONCE in a very important, tight game, where he was playing like crap and putting no effort into his set-pieces......... and its ok for him to be upset and not acknowledge the fans that have actually (rightly, 'cause he's been a great player) supported him for 6 years???? (and paying a shed load of money in that time)

If that is the case, the guy is a pathetic emotional cripple with a prima-donna complex and and you are clearly an emotional cripple to justify his behaviour.

I dont know what the issue is, but if that really is the excuse, then i'm amazed. Fair play to him, I wouldnt have the bottle to admit to being that weak and pathetic. Booed ONCE in 6 years.... awwww diddums

[Royal Rother]

I didn't grudge Sidwell going. But then Sidwell put one of his best seasons for us whilst running down his contract.

I agree, but you would never have known it by reading this forum a year or so ago.

I'll always remember the photograph in here of Shorey (who was the blue eyed boy at the time) together with Sidwell at Shorey's wedding. Sidwell was in the wedding party and people were posting stuff like 'Nicky you need to find better mates!'...'Sidwell is a a disruption in training and a cancer in the dressing room'...'Sidwell has a bad attitude, he just doesn't care or even try in games anymore'...'Sidwell should follow Shorey's example, be loyal to the club and not be a, well, greedy bollox'...and so on.

Yet here we are a year later, and we're talking up Sids, while Shorey is the villain. Oh, what a tangled web we weave...

I like that.

Very neatly sums up the Team Board and many of its contributors. Providing loyalty and support to the players through thick and thin; making allowances for their weaknesses and frailties no matter how much money they earn. Never better demonstrated than by the sympathy and support shown to a completely out-of-sorts Sonko on his return from a career-threatening injury.

[OLEEE!!!]

If he goes for nothing we would have ripped off the buying club

[Ian Royal]

I didn't grudge Sidwell going. But then Sidwell put one of his best seasons for us whilst running down his contract.

I agree, but you would never have known it by reading this forum a year or so ago.

I'll always remember the photograph in here of Shorey (who was the blue eyed boy at the time) together with Sidwell at Shorey's wedding. Sidwell was in the wedding party and people were posting stuff like 'Nicky you need to find better mates!'...'Sidwell is a a disruption in training and a cancer in the dressing room'...'Sidwell has a bad attitude, he just doesn't care or even try in games anymore'...'Sidwell should follow Shorey's example, be loyal to the club and not be a, well, greedy bollox'...and so on.

Yet here we are a year later, and we're talking up Sids, while Shorey is the villain. Oh, what a tangled web we weave...

Well I can only speak for myself and whilst I was dissapointed Sidwell didn't sign a new deal with us I certainly never slagged him off for it. I seem to recall defending him quite heavily, so as you can see my anger at Shorey is completely different.

Royalee, I am well aware that huffing and puffing doesn't make a great player. I am also well aware that some players who have done us great service are not right for taing us forward. Afterall every player has their sell by date.

I am also quite capable of noticing the good stuff players do in the background. Which is why I'm a big fan of Harper. Though I'd like him more if he stopped thinking he was a defensive midfielder and attacked more. Crab Harper is good. Attacking Harper is great.

Obviously I'll never convince you, regardless of what I say. So I won't bother trying, because you're a blinkered moron. Some of us are capable of changing our opinions of players when they perform to different levels.

[Southbank Old Boy]

I am also quite capable of noticing the good stuff players do in the background. Which is why I'm a big fan of Harper. Though I'd like him more if he stopped thinking he was a defensive midfielder and attacked more. Crab Harper is good. Attacking Harper is great.

He is asked to play as "crab Harper" by the management though isn't he?

[Ian Royal]

I am also quite capable of noticing the good stuff players do in the background. Which is why I'm a big fan of Harper. Though I'd like him more if he stopped thinking he was a defensive midfielder and attacked more. Crab Harper is good. Attacking Harper is great.

He is asked to play as "crab Harper" by the management though isn't he?

I'm pretty sure he's been asked to play more attacking as well. He considers himself to be a defensive midfielder.

[rhroyal]

The thing Hammond said saying "Shorey has been unhappy for a year now" really got to me. I can understand if Shorey would have liked to play for West Ham, but once the window closes it hasn't worked out. Therefore he should have just put his head down and played his best for the club paying his wages. If that wasn't enough, he should have just thought about where his career would be if we hadn't signed him from the Leyton Orient reserves and given him a chance. He seems to have thrown that back in our face this season. It's a typical small club thing, you give a player or manager a chance and when they hear rumours of getting to a bigger club they forget your loyalty and piss off without considering what you've done for them. Mark McGhee, Alan Pardew and now Nicky Shorey in my view. You could say Sidwell, but the difference there was when he knew he was staying until the end of this season he got his head down and put in the best year of his life for us.

[brendywendy]

The thing Hammond said saying "Shorey has been unhappy for a year now" really got to me. I can understand if Shorey would have liked to play for West Ham, but once the window closes it hasn't worked out. Therefore he should have just put his head down and played his best for the club paying his wages. If that wasn't enough, he should have just thought about where his career would be if we hadn't signed him from the Leyton Orient reserves and given him a chance. He seems to have thrown that back in our face this season. It's a typical small club thing, you give a player or manager a chance and when they hear rumours of getting to a bigger club they forget your loyalty and piss off without considering what you've done for them. Mark McGhee, Alan Pardew and now Nicky Shorey in my view. You could say Sidwell, but the difference there was when he knew he was staying until the end of this season he got his head down and put in the best year of his life for us.

cmon, get a grip

this is reading FC, even our two year stint at the top couldnt change that enough to stop this happening
the only way we can stop it happening is to get back up there, extend the ground , and get those new owners in, then maybe, after 5 years in the top flight, players will want to stay

but even then if a top 8 club come in, theyer still bound to go
thats just our place in english football, will take a long time for that to change