Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by juanpablo » 06 Jun 2008 08:45

page 3 tart alongside, white x5, thinks he can play football


fu ck off you prima donna, you are a big black athlete nothing more. We made you and im confident when you leave us you will be pretty much finished.

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by Vision » 06 Jun 2008 09:42

Arch Harsh. The Sun article gives no more indication of context or sources than any other rag passing this on (ahem... BBC). At the end, he says he will not ask for a transfer. The policy for all concerned should be that it's in the past, but if Sonko feels like the victim of a negative campaign I can certainly see why from reading this board. Whatever happened to loyalty. The guy had a bad year blighted by injury and then poor form (in which he was hardly alone at RFC). No no one has a good word to say for him. The definition of fickle.


He refused to play for the reserves at just the precise time that Coppell was calling for unity amongst the squad in the final 2 weeks of the season.

He then appeals this as is his right i suppsoe although even Fae didn't bother with that.

Just last week he goes on record as saying he's loyal he's staying but he's been treated unfairly by the club.

This week he goes on record as saying he's loyal, he wants to stay but now not only are the club treating him badly but he's the victim of a conspiracy amongst his teammates.

If he'd have let this go and knuckle down then i'd be inclined as i said at the time to give him another chance.

He quite clearly isn't prepared to do that and his public utterences are as near as you can get to asking for a move without actually slapping in a transfer request which could cost him money.

I'm with BQ , he wants out and is letting as many people as he can know it.

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by West Stand Man » 06 Jun 2008 10:41

juanpablo page 3 tart alongside, white x5, thinks he can play football


fu ck off you prima donna piece of sh!t you are a big black athelete nothing more. We made you and im confident when you leave us you will be pretty much finished.

Bye


I think that counts as racist. Needs withdrawing now.

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by Thaumagurist* » 06 Jun 2008 10:45

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by West Stand Man » 06 Jun 2008 11:57

Thaumagurist* In what way was that racist?


To be blunt, if you can't see that then there is no point in explaining it to you.


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by Thaumagurist* » 06 Jun 2008 12:06

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by brendywendy » 06 Jun 2008 12:07

isnt black what we are supposed to call people of afro carribean origin nowadays anyway?

thought coloured was now frowned upon

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by Huntley & Palmer » 06 Jun 2008 13:12

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Thaumagurist* In what way was that racist?


To be blunt, if you can't see that then there is no point in explaining it to you.

If he had said 'you black piece of shit' then yes, I would judge that as racist. The comment about him being nothing more than a 'big black athelete' is not in any way racist from my perspective. You are also the only person that has complained about it

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by 1871royals » 06 Jun 2008 13:47

I dont think its racist but "black" is being used in a negative slur imo.


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by Thaumagurist* » 06 Jun 2008 14:03

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by RoyalBlue » 06 Jun 2008 14:54

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Thaumagurist* In what way was that racist?


To be blunt, if you can't see that then there is no point in explaining it to you.

If he had said 'you black piece of shit' then yes, I would judge that as racist. The comment about him being nothing more than a 'big black athelete' is not in any way racist from my perspective. You are also the only person that has complained about it


Oh dear, that response from a moderator!!!

Try looking at it a bit more carefully. Why the need to refer to the fact he is black at all?!! Would someone have said 'You're a big white athlete, nothing more' of a similarly built white footballer?

Then, of course, we have the remarks that preceded it.

Strikes me that even if the writer claims there was no intent to be racist there's a pretty strong likelihood that it is going to be interpreted as such by more than a few people.

Add me to the list of people who have complained about it, if it's number of complaints rather than interpretation/perception that counts.

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by CMRoyal » 06 Jun 2008 15:04

Racist? It's all about intent, isn't it?

However, whether the use of 'black' is deemed racist is a moot point, because surely calling him a piece of dog poo and telling him to eff off should be enough for the post to be hoiked?

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by Arch » 06 Jun 2008 15:54

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West Stand Man If he had said 'you black piece of shit' then yes, I would judge that as racist. The comment about him being nothing more than a 'big black athelete' is not in any way racist from my perspective. You are also the only person that has complained about it


Oh dear, that response from a moderator!!!

Try looking at it a bit more carefully. Why the need to refer to the fact he is black at all?!! Would someone have said 'You're a big white athlete, nothing more' of a similarly built white footballer?

Then, of course, we have the remarks that preceded it.

Strikes me that even if the writer claims there was no intent to be racist there's a pretty strong likelihood that it is going to be interpreted as such by more than a few people.

Add me to the list of people who have complained about it, if it's number of complaints rather than interpretation/perception that counts.

Total agreement with RoyalBlue and total disagreement with Vision all on one page! What is the world coming to? I must be getting open minded in my old age.


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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by Vision » 06 Jun 2008 16:05

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Total agreement with RoyalBlue and total disagreement with Vision all on one page! What is the world coming to? I must be getting open minded in my old age.


I blame global warming.

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by Uke » 06 Jun 2008 16:40

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Total agreement with RoyalBlue and total disagreement with Vision all on one page! What is the world coming to? I must be getting open minded in my old age.


I blame global warming.


I blame contextual analysis

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by FiNeRaIn » 06 Jun 2008 16:41

juanpablo page 3 tart alongside, white x5, thinks he can play football


fu ck off you prima donna piece of sh!t you are a big black athelete nothing more. We made you and im confident when you leave us you will be pretty much finished.

Bye


I've been suspended and ridiculed for less than that, platypuss.....

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by juanpablo » 06 Jun 2008 16:56

i have removed the insult

apologies for any offence caused

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by Royal Jelly » 06 Jun 2008 16:57

If you didn't mean "big black athlete" in a negative way, then why bother post it? What relevance is the colour of is skin?

I suppose it could be a complement, but that'd wouldn't really fit the rest of the post.

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by Uke » 06 Jun 2008 16:59

The post is removed, the apology has been made. JP knows how many people found the remark offensive and did not wish to offend further,

FFS Let it lie now

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Re: Prima donnas - Fae & Sonko suspended by club

by Arch » 06 Jun 2008 17:49

Uke The post is removed, the apology has been made. JP knows how many people found the remark offensive and did not wish to offend further,

FFS Let it lie now

It's what Ibu would have wanted.

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