Dolan: 'Academy is a success'...but Gooding's unconvinced

[Royalee]

I've seen Wayne Rooney, and Pearce is no Wayne Rooney !

Not really a good comparison to select a bunch of players with honours coming out of their ears who quite clearly 'made it'. What about all the young players who get stuck in forst teams at 17 and are touted as the 'next big thing' and never make it ...

The 'best' managers don't pick players based on their age, they pick the players they need to do a job and they will absolutely consider the 'risk' to the players. At the simplest level they would be in breach of Child Protection rules if they didn't, beyond that they would not be doing their job !!

Pearce has been in three relegation battles in the last two seasons, I'm not sure another one would have phased him too much.

The point is the 'risk' to the player wasn't there, or at least it was extremely minimal. I think Pearce or Henry would find your Child Protection point to be rather patronising to be perfectly honest, along with Karacan.

[brendywendy]

everyones allowed an opinion

but calling copps a clueless clown
who has nothing going for him at all is a bit silly
IMPO

[Royalee]

everyones allowed an opinion

but calling copps a clueless clown
who has nothing going for him at all is a bit silly
IMPO

He is - read his latest comments on Little's departure - he clearly still hasn't looked at addressing the right wing position and was relying on Little to fill it this season despite his previous injury troubles.

[Roger the Rabbit]

Pearce has been in three relegation battles in the last two seasons, I'm not sure another one would have phased him too much.

The point is the 'risk' to the player wasn't there, or at least it was extremely minimal. I think Pearce or Henry would find your Child Protection point to be rather patronising to be perfectly honest, along with Karacan.

He's been on loan for shortish spells at clubs fighting relegation, knowing that he actually had a contract at a Premiership club. Slightly lower pressure !
And if you 'aren;t sure' whether stepping up into the Prem would have phased him then maybe you shouldn't be so keen to drop him into it.
I'm not sure the 3 players you mention would be covered by Child Protection now, and personally i think it's a bit of nonsense. Doesn't remove the fact that managers HAVE to be aware of the risks on young players under law. And it doesn't remove the fact that your claim that managers don't consider the risks is patent nonsense.

[Roger the Rabbit]

everyones allowed an opinion

but calling copps a clueless clown
who has nothing going for him at all is a bit silly
IMPO

He is - read his latest comments on Little's departure - he clearly still hasn't looked at addressing the right wing position and was relying on Little to fill it this season despite his previous injury troubles.

I'm afraid there is only one clown here ! Assuming you are referring to Coppell's comments on the OS it's all pretty bland, sad he's going stuff.

[Royalee]

Pearce has been in three relegation battles in the last two seasons, I'm not sure another one would have phased him too much.

The point is the 'risk' to the player wasn't there, or at least it was extremely minimal. I think Pearce or Henry would find your Child Protection point to be rather patronising to be perfectly honest, along with Karacan.

He's been on loan for shortish spells at clubs fighting relegation, knowing that he actually had a contract at a Premiership club. Slightly lower pressure !
And if you 'aren;t sure' whether stepping up into the Prem would have phased him then maybe you shouldn't be so keen to drop him into it.
I'm not sure the 3 players you mention would be covered by Child Protection now, and personally i think it's a bit of nonsense. Doesn't remove the fact that managers HAVE to be aware of the risks on young players under law. And it doesn't remove the fact that your claim that managers don't consider the risks is patent nonsense.

When I said I wasn't sure, I meant it WOULDN'T have phased him - it was kind of implied although I guess I have to make things simple for you and brendy at times.

All three youngsters in question are legally adults, so child protection doesn't really come into it, however much you'd like it to to try and defend your ridiculous point.

[Roger the Rabbit]

When I said I wasn't sure, I meant it WOULDN'T have phased him - it was kind of implied although I guess I have to make things simple for you and brendy at times.

All three youngsters in question are legally adults, so child protection doesn't really come into it, however much you'd like it to to try and defend your ridiculous point.

Time to draw a veil, sad when you stop discussing and resort to insults.

Also sad when your obession with your own view means you fail to read what is written and simply assume.

And saddest of all is we have been agreeing, never a good sign when someone is so up themselves that they even have people who agree with them deciding to drop a conversation !!

[West Stand Man]

Pearce has been in three relegation battles in the last two seasons, I'm not sure another one would have phased him too much.

The point is the 'risk' to the player wasn't there, or at least it was extremely minimal. I think Pearce or Henry would find your Child Protection point to be rather patronising to be perfectly honest, along with Karacan.

He's been on loan for shortish spells at clubs fighting relegation, knowing that he actually had a contract at a Premiership club. Slightly lower pressure !
And if you 'aren;t sure' whether stepping up into the Prem would have phased him then maybe you shouldn't be so keen to drop him into it.
I'm not sure the 3 players you mention would be covered by Child Protection now, and personally i think it's a bit of nonsense. Doesn't remove the fact that managers HAVE to be aware of the risks on young players under law. And it doesn't remove the fact that your claim that managers don't consider the risks is patent nonsense.

When I said I wasn't sure, I meant it WOULDN'T have phased him - it was kind of implied although I guess I have to make things simple for you and brendy at times.

All three youngsters in question are legally adults, so child protection doesn't really come into it, however much you'd like it to to try and defend your ridiculous point.

I think you possibly meant that it might not have 'fazed him? Not quite the same as phasing him I think you'll find. Proper universities teach that sort of thing.

[Royalee]

Very good West Stand Man, any intelligent football debate from yourself?

Thought not. Maybe you and Spacey can have a spelling competition though, he'd like a new friend.

[Roger the Rabbit]

I think you possibly meant that it might not have 'fazed him? Not quite the same as phasing him I think you'll find. Proper universities teach that sort of thing.

Well I went to a proper University and I missed that one !!
It's not just Bournemouth Poly that isn't hot on semantics then !! I guess on Media and Catering courses it's not that crucial...

[Royalee]

Anyway, which letters come before the 'f' in 'fazed West Stand Man? Your use of grammar would indicate that you've shortened the word at the front so which other letters come before?

Silly me, you don't appear to have mastered the English Language either do you? Better luck next time.

[brendywendy]

everyones allowed an opinion

but calling copps a clueless clown
who has nothing going for him at all is a bit silly
IMPO

He is - read his latest comments on Little's departure - he clearly still hasn't looked at addressing the right wing position and was relying on Little to fill it this season despite his previous injury troubles.

no, he isnt

thats just opinion mate-and yours i pay no attention to whatsoever-im sure you are the same with me.

and having three right wingers at the club would have meant we didnt really need another one

now we have two, we do

seems sensible to me

[Royalee]

Two wingers with zero experience - not bad I guess. We probably have every position sorted by that thinking I suppose.

[brendywendy]

Two wingers with zero experience - not bad I guess. We probably have every position sorted by that thinking I suppose.

i made no comment about their worthiness

personally i think henrys about 50 -50
as is kebe at this level

the point is with little-that would have done us-would be daft getting someone else as a 4th RW in as you were arguing
but now he has gone-we will be looking at other options so we will probably have 3 RW

whats wrong with that?

[Hoop Blah]

and having three right wingers at the club would have meant we didnt really need another one

now we have two, we do

seems sensible to me

So now your saying Coppell wasn't sensible because he offered one of our three right wingers a new contract even though we sensibly only needed two!!!!

[West Stand Man]

Anyway, which letters come before the 'f' in 'fazed West Stand Man? Your use of grammar would indicate that you've shortened the word at the front so which other letters come before?

Silly me, you don't appear to have mastered the English Language either do you? Better luck next time.

Hmmm, I think I can see the major difference between a typo and an inability to spell. One is an oversight, the other an educational failing - I'll leave you to place them.

[brendywendy]

and having three right wingers at the club would have meant we didnt really need another one

now we have two, we do

seems sensible to me

So now your saying Coppell wasn't sensible because he offered one of our three right wingers a new contract even though we sensibly only needed two!!!!

nope

totally the opposite actually

royalee was trying to be clever by saying coppel was wrong to not have looked seriously at buying in another RW now , while little was still with us -leaving us with 4 RW

i was saying surely 3 would have been more than adequate
and that now we only have two unproven ones we need to look at someone else

keep up

[Royalee]

What's so amazingly clever about not thinking there to be much point in having two '50-50' wingers at the club? We could have a hundred right wingers at the club, but if none of them were good enough to start every week then we'd still need a right winger. Your opinions seem to fit in with Coppell's reasoning for buying centre backs for the sake of it in the last couple of years.

Are you Steve Coppell brendy?

[brendywendy]

What's so amazingly clever about not thinking there to be much point in having two '50-50' wingers at the club? We could have a hundred right wingers at the club, but if none of them were good enough to start every week then we'd still need a right winger. Your opinions seem to fit in with Coppell's reasoning for buying centre backs for the sake of it in the last couple of years.

Are you Steve Coppell brendy?

yes very good

except that at no point did i say i was happy with, or the club should stick with 2 unproven right wingers

but you carry on making stuff up for your own amusement if you like

at some point ronaldo was unproven,someone gave him a chance and he became proven
forgive me for not writing players off before theyve had the chance

plus if we bring in one proven right winger at the club next season to replace little -surely we would only need two unproven RW as back up as having 3 or 4 proven RW on our books all wanting 1st team games just wouldnt work

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