Church did really well. His second goal was excellent and against Premiership defenders and goalkeeper. He also won a couple of really good flick ons.
England deserved their win but Brian Flynn has done a brilliant job getting Wales this far..and most of their star under 21s, ie Bale, Gunter, Evans, Edwards, Hennessey etc are now playing for the senior team..
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'Av Some Of That!Southbank Old Boy Two nice goals for the lad, but don't get carried away
I think he could have a decent lower league career, but thats about it
She he isn't going to be another Jimmy Kebe
Depends on whether you like your wingers to beat a player.....
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They were discussing Church and some of his fellow U21's on Talksport this morning and said they could easily have started for the senior squad today.
Says alot about our Simon doesn't it?
Says alot about our Simon doesn't it?
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They were raving about him at Crewe last year.
The academy is starting to pay dividends, and from what I've heard the new batch of academy players (Walcott, Baggie, Mills etc.) are the most gifted we have ever had.
The academy is starting to pay dividends, and from what I've heard the new batch of academy players (Walcott, Baggie, Mills etc.) are the most gifted we have ever had.
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Gordons Cumming They were discussing Church and some of his fellow U21's on Talksport this morning and said they could easily have started for the senior squad today.
Says alot about our Simon doesn't it?
Or the standard of the Welsh senior team....
Good performance from what I caught in the pub last night....whether he has a future here is another question.
The Welsh have got their youth levels pretty sorted at the moment which is beginning to pay dividends at senior level...Brian Flynn is the manager of every youth side from U17 up with the sole remit of fast tracking the better players to the senior side.
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If anyone wants to see the goals they are here:
Goal one: http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1653421/
Goal two http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1653427/
Great finishes from the lad - especially the second one.
What with the players coming through with us (Karacan, Pearce, Henry, Kelly) and Hal Robson-Kanu and Church the academy does seem to be unearthing some diamonds...
Goal one: http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1653421/
Goal two http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/1653427/
Great finishes from the lad - especially the second one.
What with the players coming through with us (Karacan, Pearce, Henry, Kelly) and Hal Robson-Kanu and Church the academy does seem to be unearthing some diamonds...
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So a Reading academy player has scored the only 2 goals Wales under 21s have ever scored against England!
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Decent finishes, but woeful defending from England.
The finishes don't particularly impress me, though there is nothing wrong with them. What does, is the way Chuch pulls away from his marker for the second to give himself space to receive the ball.
The finishes don't particularly impress me, though there is nothing wrong with them. What does, is the way Chuch pulls away from his marker for the second to give himself space to receive the ball.
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Nice finishes, hopefully he'll be able to do that for us one day...
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Ian Royal Decent finishes, but woeful defending from England.
The finishes don't particularly impress me, though there is nothing wrong with them. What does, is the way Chuch pulls away from his marker for the second to give himself space to receive the ball.
Yep that was very nice.
He actually looks quite strong for one so young. Maybe he could be a target man for us in the future (not that I'm sure he is talented enough for that).
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He played very well.
We must keep him for the future!
We must keep him for the future!
LoyalRoyalFan He played very well.
We must keep him for the future!
We must give him a chance in the first team if he will stay
like what happened with simon cox - he was left with no option but to go to swindon where he would get first team football
Was at the game, he played very well, linked up well with Ramsey (january possibility? 
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first goal was lucky but required a cool finish, but second was pure class, great touch...
great prospect.
)first goal was lucky but required a cool finish, but second was pure class, great touch...
great prospect.
Simon Church looked quality, played the lone striker role as good as anyone ever has.
The first goal was a marvelous finish, he was so close to Joe Hart that if he had hit it above ground level it would have been saved. The second he really made out of nothing, a simple ball to feet, Simon Church completely fooled a Premiership defence and fired home.
CHURCH IS BETTER THAN SHANE LONG. FACT.
The first goal was a marvelous finish, he was so close to Joe Hart that if he had hit it above ground level it would have been saved. The second he really made out of nothing, a simple ball to feet, Simon Church completely fooled a Premiership defence and fired home.
CHURCH IS BETTER THAN SHANE LONG. FACT.
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Thames Simon Church looked quality, played the lone striker role as good as anyone ever has.
The first goal was a marvelous finish, he was so close to Joe Hart that if he had hit it above ground level it would have been saved. The second he really made out of nothing, a simple ball to feet, Simon Church completely fooled a Premiership defence and fired home.
CHURCH IS BETTER THAN SHANE LONG. FACT.
Premiership Defence? I take it you mean a defender who comes from a premiership club but doesn't play regularly in the first team? Awful defending from the guy who assumed Church would use his first touch to go outside, which gave him an acre of room to go inside unopposed.
Good play from Church, but awful defending. A couple of U21 goals do not make Church better than Long, I remind you Long has scored a couple at full international level. He's a good prospect but not there yet.
Joe Hart was the goalkeeper.
Steven Taylor, David Wheater, Michael Mancienne and Jamie O'Hara in defence.
With the exception of Mancienne the others are key players for thier Premier league clubs (not so much O'Hara). Hart, Wheater and Taylor have also been called up by Capello before therefore making them the future of England.
If he can score goals against them, I think he can score goals for us.
During his loan spells at Crewe and Yeovil he was used as a winger or attacking midfielder and he earned good reviews there so it shows he's versatile.
Apparently he's going back to Wycombe for a month now (after getting sent off on his first start and banned for 3 games) so I'd love to see him bang them in there, come back and get on the bench for us.
He may even score again on Tuesday night in the 2nd leg...
Steven Taylor, David Wheater, Michael Mancienne and Jamie O'Hara in defence.
With the exception of Mancienne the others are key players for thier Premier league clubs (not so much O'Hara). Hart, Wheater and Taylor have also been called up by Capello before therefore making them the future of England.
If he can score goals against them, I think he can score goals for us.
During his loan spells at Crewe and Yeovil he was used as a winger or attacking midfielder and he earned good reviews there so it shows he's versatile.
Apparently he's going back to Wycombe for a month now (after getting sent off on his first start and banned for 3 games) so I'd love to see him bang them in there, come back and get on the bench for us.
He may even score again on Tuesday night in the 2nd leg...
Steven Taylor's a centre back and O'Hara's a midfielder.
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No idea which of them (I can't put names to faces) was at fault for Church's second goal, but if he's a regular premier league defender his club are in serious trouble.
Joe Hart didn't do much wrong for either goal, but then I wasn't criticising the 'keeping.
The first goal was comedy defending as well. A block straight into a team mate is fair enough, but to then lunge desperately at a ball you have no hope of getting, from the floor, whilst simultaneously getting in the way of the only team mate capable of getting to it first, is very poor defending IMO.
Not taking anything away from Church's finishing, or speed of thought and action to take advantage, but those two goals against England U21 do not mean he'd be good enough to regularly start for us should Doyle or NHunt be unavailable.
Saying that he's pretty good on the version of FM I have. Had a desperate striker situation and he had to come into the side. Scored 2 on his debut and very nearly kept my first choice players out of the side on their return to fitness.
Joe Hart didn't do much wrong for either goal, but then I wasn't criticising the 'keeping.
The first goal was comedy defending as well. A block straight into a team mate is fair enough, but to then lunge desperately at a ball you have no hope of getting, from the floor, whilst simultaneously getting in the way of the only team mate capable of getting to it first, is very poor defending IMO.
Not taking anything away from Church's finishing, or speed of thought and action to take advantage, but those two goals against England U21 do not mean he'd be good enough to regularly start for us should Doyle or NHunt be unavailable.
Saying that he's pretty good on the version of FM I have. Had a desperate striker situation and he had to come into the side. Scored 2 on his debut and very nearly kept my first choice players out of the side on their return to fitness.
Ian Royal Decent finishes, but woeful defending from England.
The finishes don't particularly impress me, though there is nothing wrong with them. What does, is the way Chuch pulls away from his marker for the second to give himself space to receive the ball.
You're hard to please!
The second one needed a great first touch and it was. Then the cool finish. Superb!
DeathyIan Royal Decent finishes, but woeful defending from England.
The finishes don't particularly impress me, though there is nothing wrong with them. What does, is the way Chuch pulls away from his marker for the second to give himself space to receive the ball.
You're hard to please!
The second one needed a great first touch and it was. Then the cool finish. Superb!
The second goal reminded me of Lee Nogan's play off final effort against Bolton.
Ian is hard to please it was a cracking goal.
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