STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by The 17 Bus » 08 Jan 2009 09:45

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Stranded EP this morning has Hammond stating that we've had no bids at all for Hunt but a couple of sounding out calls.

Also says we'll move for Jay Tabb if he does go.



F'in joke if that would turn out to be Hunt's replacement. Talk about going for the cheap option when will RFC open their eyes!!


Know how much he will cost?? Seen him play lots, last seasons player of the year at Cov, must say something, well liked by Brentford fans.

biggest joke is how each signing or rumour so often gets poo poo'd.

Steve Coppell is slowly building a new team at RFC, and according to most is doing rather well at it as well, the pieces are not all there, and some will move on. If Hunt is one that goes so be it.

rather we lost him than Doyle TBH, and those bids are yet to come in and really test RFC.

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by Alan Partridge » 08 Jan 2009 10:01

Stranded EP this morning has Hammond stating that we've had no bids at all for Hunt but a couple of sounding out calls.

Also says we'll move for Jay Tabb if he does go.


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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by loyalroyal4life » 08 Jan 2009 11:00

The 17 Bus Can't we go for tabb anyway, I think most here suggested that the current back ups are not good enough after the Cardiff cup match, Tabb can play in midfield, either wing or forward, versatility we could do with.



I would rather S.Hunt stay than him being replaced by Tabb

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by working class hero » 08 Jan 2009 11:12

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The 17 Bus Can't we go for tabb anyway, I think most here suggested that the current back ups are not good enough after the Cardiff cup match, Tabb can play in midfield, either wing or forward, versatility we could do with.



I would rather S.Hunt stay than him being replaced by Tabb


If SC rates Tabb then I suspect it will be because he is right.
Anyone else remember how SC was slated for lack of ambition when Hunty was signed?????
Short memories some.....

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by Scarface » 08 Jan 2009 11:19

Is Jay Tabb left footed ?


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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by Bill Oddie's Beard » 08 Jan 2009 11:32

This was written in April.

Steve Claridge I played with a young Jay Tabb at Brentford and liked him a lot. Not only as a player but as a person as well. I was interested to see what kind of progress he had made as he was always on the periphery at Brentford. Small and compact, he had been a victim of his own physique when released by Crystal Palace in 2000 but, undeterred, he battled on and signed for the Bees.

He has not changed much from the player I knew. In Coventry's 3-1 win over Plymouth on Saturday the left-winger never flinched in his duties defensively and, unlike most wingers, relished tackling. He showed his good temperament when he was caught with a loose elbow but did not react or let it affect his game.

Tabb had a hand in all three Coventry goals, making two and scoring one, but I have also watched him at Southampton in an away fixture. It is always interesting to compare the two approaches, especially in wingers. They can be asked to do two very different jobs, home and away: at home they play further upfield and a lot more is asked of them with regard to the positive side of their game, while away, especially in a team that is struggling, they are asked to keep the balance of the side and stay goalside of the ball when not in possession. He achieved all this.

Tabb is not the quickest but has two good feet and because of this he will cross in front of his full-back or cut inside and cross with his right foot. On a couple of occasions he took the option of a shot, such is the ease with which he can use either foot. He started in a 4-5-1 formation and played as an out-and-out winger, always giving the width but not getting far enough forward to make this system a three-up-front, meaning at times he looked a little lost in his positioning - back when he might have been forward and vice versa. Tabb's lack of height means he is not an option for the goalkeeper or long-switched diagonal balls, but other parts of his game more than compensate.

He does not have the blinding pace to take him round the outside of his full-back. He prefers to pick the ball up and get up a head of steam before trying to pass a player or come inside, as he did once or twice. It was a bit like watching Franz Klammer - he sidestepped defenders and nearly played the lone striker in on goal and was also very good at coming in from the wing and joining his centre-forward.

He hit a fantastic first-time half- volley which fizzed across goal, but he also showed great appreciation for his lone forward, letting him dictate play by making the runs or movement before releasing the ball. At times this meant holding the ball a little longer than Tabb would have liked but he did it well. He is a nice lad, and even when he left Brentford he did it the right way. Everyone knew it was the next logical step, one he had earned through application.

Signed by Coventry in June 2006, a month after being called up to the Republic of Ireland squad, he has played 64 times for the Sky Blues, scoring eight goals, and is an example to everyone that size and strength alone are sometimes no substitute for ability and sheer hard work.

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by Woodcote Royal » 08 Jan 2009 12:39

OLLIE KEARNS "Hunt wasted a succession of corners before Long, on for Oster (who had put in an erratic performance to say the least), outpaced the City defence and was brought down. Shorey's superbly flighted free kick was met by Bikey who made no mistake with a downward header which Taylor had little chance of keeping out

"Shorey provided his third assist of the afternoon from a corner with Kitson rising at the near post to direct a header into the far side of the net to make it 3-2"

Just a couple of report extracts from last season. Shorey's dead ball delivery was just as good as Hunty's and our ratio of goals from set plays last year wasn't so different from this year. We just had far less corners and free kicks last year ! A general observation would be that comparing Shorey and Hunty is largely pointless as they are different types of players playing in different positions.
For example WR says "there is nothing superior about Shorey's skill set when compared to Hunts". Err, ball retention, creation in open play ? At the same time Hunty is much better at shutting people down and defending in general. Different players with different abilities.
As for Sidwell, he was and is a top class CM player. Capable of doing all of the defensive side of the job as well as consistently making the box and notching a few goals. Reo Coker playing at right back has nothing to do with Sidwell getting into the side. If both are available for CM then Sidwell will play every time.
As for his Chelsea move. Firstly, Jose saw enough in him to take him to the club and he made a number of appearences despite having the likes of Lampard and Essien in his way. Secondly, he ran his contract down at Reading and probably signed for £40k a week which made that his going rate should he move on at any time during the 3 years of his Chelsea contract. So, not only a good player but he has a smart agent as well :)


The reason I compared these 3 players was to illustrate the blinkered favouritism employed by so many. Of course they have different skill sets but they are all players of a similar standard, capable of playing at a similar level and, all things being equal, would have ended up with similar price tags on their heads.

This might be why they found themselves in the same Reading team that did so well in both Championship and Premiership yet, many hold two of these in high esteem and the other as little better than a park player.........................which is utter nonsense. Furthermore, it's still nonsense when you start delving into stats and comparing international recognition.

I said Shorey was guilty of delivering many poor corners not that he never sent in some really good ones. The same applies to Hunt but his corners have improved dramatically since Shorey left yet his detractors are only interested in what he gets wrong. For every excerpt from a match report extolling Shorey's credentials there will be one for Stephen Hunt

Had Shorey or Hunt left for Chelsea in the same circumstances as Sidwell, I would have made exactly the same observations as I did at the time........................that they stood no chance of establishing themselves in the multi million team at the Bridge and they were only being signed as squad cover because Mourinho was being starved of cash and they were free.

I'm far from convinced that every player would have thanked his agent for engineering such a move and I'm damn sure Sidwell now prefers the one that took him to Villa.

I saw all of Hunt Sidwell and Shorey as replaceable when we had Premiership clout behind us but Coppell was only forced to act when the latter finally got the move he so desperately craved.

We've yet to see Armstrong in the Prem but I don't think there are many Reading fans currently pining for the return of "Nicky who?"

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by OLLIE KEARNS » 08 Jan 2009 13:08

Fair enough W.R but I would say that what you term as "blinkered favouritism" could also be translated as someone who has a different opinion to yours, to which they are of course entitled.
For the record, my view is simple (and has been laid out in previous posts) in that Hunty is a very valuable member of our team and one whom I don't wish to see leave in this window. My view is also that the three players mentioned rank clearly in the order of Sidwell, Shorey and Hunt.
Sidwell I think is a class CM act in that he can do the defensive side very well but can also keep possession AND has goals in him. We haven't been able to replace him to date although I do like the way that Cisse is starting to shape up now with 5 quality goals all from open play.
So, in summary, I am very much in the Hunty camp but just not to the extent that you are I guess :)

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by Victor Meldrew » 08 Jan 2009 13:42

WR,
We are never going to agree on the comparative merits of these players.
If a club is prepared to pay big money for Hunt my wish is that the club says thank you very much and invests back into the team,something that they have done little of with the significant amounts received for Shorey,Sonko and Kitson as well as the massive parachute money.

It's o.k to think that our current squad is good enough now for the play-offs but presumably team-building starts now for the Premier League with the likes of Murty,Marcus,Bryn,Ivar and Duberry by virtue of age and fitness not really being contenders to play at the top level and the jury is out on quite a few of the others.
West Brom,Stoke and Hull now do look like relegation contenders and one of the reasons I feel is that they have bought extensively and their promotion sides just weren't good enough unlike our exceptional record-breaking side of the 106 points.
This time if we go up there is no way that we will get near the 106 so players will need to be brought in-some of that building should be starting now IMHO especially as money is no problem at a time when many clubs are struggling financially and bargains are surely out there.
It is a very difficult job to maintain success and bring in players for next season but I feel that the club should be doing just that otherwise there would be very little point doing a Watford and getting promoted with no financial outlay to stay there-look at them now,it didn't work.

Back to Hunt I believe Hammond that there have been no offers and if that is maintained Hunt will get my full support as a Reading player but I would like somebody to be brought in to challenge him for that position because I feel that he goes through long periods in the comfort zone when he knows that he won't be dropped and he can even get away with shocking performances such as the one at Southampton and many more in the past couple of months.


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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by Negative_Jeff » 08 Jan 2009 13:48

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We've yet to see Armstrong in the Prem but I don't think there are many Reading fans currently pining for the return of "Nicky who?"


Here`s one. I believe we would have won at Watford, Preston and Burnley with a vintage Shorey in the team.

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by Sun Tzu » 08 Jan 2009 13:52

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We've yet to see Armstrong in the Prem but I don't think there are many Reading fans currently pining for the return of "Nicky who?"


Here`s one. I believe we would have won at Watford, Preston and Burnley with a vintage Shorey in the team.


We'd have won against Southampton with Terry Hurlock in the team and against Cardiff with Robin Friday.....

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by Negative_Jeff » 08 Jan 2009 14:02

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We've yet to see Armstrong in the Prem but I don't think there are many Reading fans currently pining for the return of "Nicky who?"


Here`s one. I believe we would have won at Watford, Preston and Burnley with a vintage Shorey in the team.


We'd have won against Southampton with Terry Hurlock in the team and against Cardiff with Robin Friday.....


Only if McGhee was manager.

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by Sun Tzu » 08 Jan 2009 14:10

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Sun Tzu We'd have won against Southampton with Terry Hurlock in the team and against Cardiff with Robin Friday.....


Only if McGhee was manager.


Fair point....

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by West Stand Man » 08 Jan 2009 17:08

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We've yet to see Armstrong in the Prem but I don't think there are many Reading fans currently pining for the return of "Nicky who?"


Here`s one. I believe we would have won at Watford, Preston and Burnley with a vintage Shorey in the team.


Hallo, planet Earth calling - are you receiving?

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by SteveRoyal » 08 Jan 2009 20:16

BOB - that's an interesting write up. Sounds a lot like the kind of Stephen Hunt-style player Coppell would be interested in.
I'd like to see more of him, though.

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by rabidbee » 08 Jan 2009 20:21

Do you mean, like, naked? :?

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by SteveRoyal » 08 Jan 2009 20:38

rabidbee Do you mean, like, naked? :?


Yes. :oops: :?

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by rhroyal » 08 Jan 2009 23:05

If Hunt leaves then wherever he goes most will lose. Firstly he is an important part to our team and we'd miss him greatly. If he moves to a lesser Premiership team near the bottom then he can do a decent job for them but Hunt himself won't be happy as he really won't be that far ahead of the level he could reach with us and could just suffer relegation again in May. If he moves to Everton or Spurs, who he has been linked with, he will be delighted with his big move. However they won't be happy when they discover that he out of his depth at their level. Hunt's a good player for us and for teams slugging it out at the bottom, but that's the limit.

Either way 2 out of 3 parties would not do well out of him transferring away from Reading.

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by Victor Meldrew » 09 Jan 2009 22:24

After the dire performances of the most recent games may I say well done tonight Hunty.
If he plays like that for the rest of the season I will be happy.
His crossing (admittedly often unchallenged) was much better and on a night when Watford had so much possession Hunt and the rest made the most of the ball when we did get it.
Still not sure that there is a queue of Premiership clubs waiting to sign him but if he plays like tonight and continues to cut out the flashiness I will be more than happy for him to stay-whether he stays and whether he maintains this form are the great unknowns.

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Re: STEPHEN HUNT - IS HIS TIME UP?

by Southbank Old Boy » 09 Jan 2009 22:33

In the flesh he still looked pretty poor to be honest

Maybe the telly coverage makes him look better than his live performances. It could explain his inflated reputation

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