by readingbedding » 28 Dec 2008 09:51
by RoyalBlue » 28 Dec 2008 11:00
rabidbee On a related note, did anyone see the advert at half-time - of the guy at the bbq acting like a deranged muppet - that was supposed to make you feel guilty for acting like a tit at a match. the guy next to me just giggled, which pretty much sums up its chances of changing behavior. Anyway, seeing as you can't really see the screen from Y26, the area most in need of "re-education" according to the club is the only area that can't get the message. Hey ho.
by Rex » 29 Dec 2008 02:02
by M U R T Y » 15 Jan 2009 13:36
by Gordons Cumming » 15 Jan 2009 15:01
royalexile This is probably more of an awareness campaign than attempting to re-educate certain supporters. Attending a football match is often seen as a release valve from the pressures of life and as a result can lead to a bad combination of aggression (tension) release and boorish behaviour.
Sadly laddish behaviour can be seen as a badge of honour which can invoke a laugh from peers, ire from supporters not involved or violence as an extreme. They then return to their respectable middle management jobs and repeat the cycle the following week.
The ironic situation for the football fraternity is :
Turn a blind eye and not get involved and let the status quo remain.
Deal with local behaviour and stub it out. (FA / club / police perspective)
Help a fellow supporter who could be getting a kicking (irrespective of circumstance) and become part of the problem.
by Sun Tzu » 15 Jan 2009 15:06
by Gordons Cumming » 15 Jan 2009 20:26
Sun Tzu Because for most rugby fans it's a day of drinking with a game of rugby in the background ? There is nothing like the tribal aspect of football and it's a bit like asking why theatre goers or shoppers don;t behave like football fans !
by Royal With Cheese » 15 Jan 2009 22:19
royalexile Sadly that is the attitude of certain supporters who in the cold light of day probably would run and hide if faced with an opposition supporter. Mostly false bravado, beer and peer support can achieve so many things in life!.
by Toon Toon Blue army » 15 Jan 2009 23:52
Gordons Cummingroyalexile This is probably more of an awareness campaign than attempting to re-educate certain supporters. Attending a football match is often seen as a release valve from the pressures of life and as a result can lead to a bad combination of aggression (tension) release and boorish behaviour.
Sadly laddish behaviour can be seen as a badge of honour which can invoke a laugh from peers, ire from supporters not involved or violence as an extreme. They then return to their respectable middle management jobs and repeat the cycle the following week.
The ironic situation for the football fraternity is :
Turn a blind eye and not get involved and let the status quo remain.
Deal with local behaviour and stub it out. (FA / club / police perspective)
Help a fellow supporter who could be getting a kicking (irrespective of circumstance) and become part of the problem.
I wonder why rugby supporters are so much more well behaved?
It shows that they can release themselves from the pressures of life without acting like idiots. Even with heavy amounts of alchohol.
At the Mad Stad they are responsible enough to bring their Guinesses to the seated area.
I wonder why?
by Rex » 15 Jan 2009 23:54
by Gordons Cumming » 16 Jan 2009 00:18
Toon Toon Blue armyGordons Cummingroyalexile This is probably more of an awareness campaign than attempting to re-educate certain supporters. Attending a football match is often seen as a release valve from the pressures of life and as a result can lead to a bad combination of aggression (tension) release and boorish behaviour.
Sadly laddish behaviour can be seen as a badge of honour which can invoke a laugh from peers, ire from supporters not involved or violence as an extreme. They then return to their respectable middle management jobs and repeat the cycle the following week.
The ironic situation for the football fraternity is :
Turn a blind eye and not get involved and let the status quo remain.
Deal with local behaviour and stub it out. (FA / club / police perspective)
Help a fellow supporter who could be getting a kicking (irrespective of circumstance) and become part of the problem.
I wonder why rugby supporters are so much more well behaved?
It shows that they can release themselves from the pressures of life without acting like idiots. Even with heavy amounts of alchohol.
At the Mad Stad they are responsible enough to bring their Guinesses to the seated area.
I wonder why?
This topic has been covered to death. The general conclusion is football fans are generaly from a working class background, Rugby fans are much more middle class. Do some research if you are really that interested, there are countless sociological reports on it.
by rabidbee » 16 Jan 2009 10:43
by RoyalBlue » 17 Jan 2009 11:14
by Gordons Cumming » 17 Jan 2009 11:26
RoyalBlue I don't think class has anything to do with behaviour. There are plenty of appallingly behaved upper class yobs out there - some even go to watch rugger matches!!
It doesn't make bad behaviour acceptable but is there really any other sport that raises quite the same level of passion as football? (Shankly really wasn't that far off the mark for quite a few people). How many other sports are there where the result of the team being followed literally influences someone's attitude towards life for the day, weekend, or even week?
A rugby team loses and their supporters appear to have forgotten all about the result in a very short space of time and get on with enjoying life. A football team loses and many of its supporters are left on a downer for quite considerable periods of time. Likewise, a good win can leave the supporters on a high for quite a few days!!
by Stranded » 17 Jan 2009 12:52
RoyalBlue I don't think class has anything to do with behaviour. There are plenty of appallingly behaved upper class yobs out there - some even go to watch rugger matches!!
It doesn't make bad behaviour acceptable but is there really any other sport that raises quite the same level of passion as football? (Shankly really wasn't that far off the mark for quite a few people). How many other sports are there where the result of the team being followed literally influences someone's attitude towards life for the day, weekend, or even week?
A rugby team loses and their supporters appear to have forgotten all about the result in a very short space of time and get on with enjoying life. A football team loses and many of its supporters are left on a downer for quite considerable periods of time. Likewise, a good win can leave the supporters on a high for quite a few days!!
by RoyalBlue » 17 Jan 2009 14:29
Gordons CummingRoyalBlue I don't think class has anything to do with behaviour. There are plenty of appallingly behaved upper class yobs out there - some even go to watch rugger matches!!
It doesn't make bad behaviour acceptable but is there really any other sport that raises quite the same level of passion as football? (Shankly really wasn't that far off the mark for quite a few people). How many other sports are there where the result of the team being followed literally influences someone's attitude towards life for the day, weekend, or even week?
A rugby team loses and their supporters appear to have forgotten all about the result in a very short space of time and get on with enjoying life. A football team loses and many of its supporters are left on a downer for quite considerable periods of time. Likewise, a good win can leave the supporters on a high for quite a few days!!
You know a lot of rugby supporters then?
by rabidbee » 19 Jan 2009 15:39
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