Hard to see any progress for the forseeable future

[Woodcote Royal]

[readingbedding]

Impossible to say, although it has to be said Conference football would not be the first place I would go to for 'good football' or 'entertainment', but there you go.

[Alan Partridge]

Impossible to say, although it has to be said Conference football would not be the first place I would go to for 'good football' or 'entertainment', but there you go.

Depends what you are after sir, in all honesty the actual standard of football in that division is better than it's been in ages/ever (i think highlighted by Forest Green who are near the bottom almost taking out Derby, and taking out Rochdale, Kettering's showing against Fulham and of course Torquay's own cup exploits) It's highly competitive and honest. I don't think any of the recent promoted teams have gone back down,in fact if you look at Doncaster, Yeovil and Carlisle who have all gone onto better things having dropped out of the league not too long ago. I wouldn't personally want to watch it every weekb ut when i've been this season it's been enjoyable in the main, certainly no worse than some of the games I've seen at the Madejski this season.

[readingbedding]

What I'm after is watching my team, whatever standard and whatever tactics, for me it's what Saturdays are for.
You can watch what you want, you don't have to justify it to me.
You, of course have the luxury of supporting 2 teams and comparing the football between the two leagues, and seeing no difference in your 'entertainment' quota.
As a RFC fan, I see the Conference as a poor standard of football, filled with consistently poor teams.
If RFC were in the Conference, I could see it differently, but that's a million miles away, and thank goodness really.
But, I would see them every week.

[Alan Partridge]

What I'm after is watching my team, whatever standard and whatever tactics, for me it's what Saturdays are for.
You can watch what you want, you don't have to justify it to me.
You, of course have the luxury of supporting 2 teams and comparing the football between the two leagues, and seeing no difference in your 'entertainment' quota.
As a RFC fan, I see the Conference as a poor standard of football, filled with consistently poor teams.
If RFC were in the Conference, I could see it differently, but that's a million miles away, and thank goodness really.
But, I would see them every week.

Is that just a general assumption or have you seen some to form that opinion? (that's not a go at you btw!)

I thin value for money comes into it as well, paying upwards and more than £30 a ticket at lots of places in the Championship, if you don't get a high standard of football I think you are well within your rights to have a gripe. Not saying the conference is of the same standard because it isn't but paying £12 to get in instead of £32 I think if the game is of poor quality there is a bit more understanding there.

Fair play if you'd go every week if Reading played Watford esque stuff, personally if I was charged £425 a ST and whatever it is away, but easily around £1000 if you go to every game with all the costs etc there is just no way i'd do that, i would go elsewhere for my football fix for what would then be a no better standard than the conference.

[Ian Royal]

I wouldn't like the quality of football, I'd want us to play and perform better. And I can't argue I'd go every game for obvious reasons. But I wouldn't go any less than now and it would still be Reading I support, because it is Reading I care about. Not football.

[Tredder]

Isn't the first viewpoint on this topic absolute comedy gold?

Can't see either leaving anytime soon so supporting Reading's going to be a whole lot duller and uninspiring than in recent years

On that note, can i say that, every plastic i've spoken to has said how dump they are playing and how they can't believe the points they are accruing, surely that confirms the thread holders point?

[Tredder]

I wouldn't like the quality of football, I'd want us to play and perform better. And I can't argue I'd go every game for obvious reasons. But I wouldn't go any less than now and it would still be Reading I support, because it is Reading I care about. Not football.

Wonderful

[Sun Tzu]

Isn't the first viewpoint on this topic absolute comedy gold?

Can't see either leaving anytime soon so supporting Reading's going to be a whole lot duller and uninspiring than in recent years

On that note, can i say that, every plastic i've spoken to has said how dump they are playing and how they can't believe the points they are accruing, surely that confirms the thread holders point?

No.

[Alan Partridge]

I wouldn't like the quality of football, I'd want us to play and perform better. And I can't argue I'd go every game for obvious reasons. But I wouldn't go any less than now and it would still be Reading I support, because it is Reading I care about. Not football.

''But I wouldn't go any less than now and it would still be Reading I support''

Don't doubt that bit.


"because it is Reading I care about. Not football"

If you were paying say £1500 a year on it, you soon would.

[Ian Royal]

I wouldn't like the quality of football, I'd want us to play and perform better. And I can't argue I'd go every game for obvious reasons. But I wouldn't go any less than now and it would still be Reading I support, because it is Reading I care about. Not football.

Wonderful

Ian Royal from Reading, living in Cambridge these days.

Why is that a problem Mr Tredds? I couldn't give a monkey's about football before I discovered the joys of Reading FC. Take them away and I wouldn't have more than an armchair interest in MOTD. Doesn't make me less of a fan, just one with a fairly narrow interest.

I still want to see football run well and with integrity. And played well with a decent passing and attacking style, without cheating.

[Tredder]

I wouldn't like the quality of football, I'd want us to play and perform better. And I can't argue I'd go every game for obvious reasons. But I wouldn't go any less than now and it would still be Reading I support, because it is Reading I care about. Not football.

Wonderful

I still want to see football run well and with integrity. And played well with a decent passing and attacking style, without cheating.

But that's not a Reading thing, never is and never will be, that's a pipedream for football in general, and it also contradicts the Reading i support and care about, not football.

[Ian Royal]

I wouldn't like the quality of football, I'd want us to play and perform better. And I can't argue I'd go every game for obvious reasons. But I wouldn't go any less than now and it would still be Reading I support, because it is Reading I care about. Not football.

''But I wouldn't go any less than now and it would still be Reading I support''

Don't doubt that bit.


"because it is Reading I care about. Not football"

If you were paying say £1500 a year on it, you soon would.

If I could afford it, I would pay it. If I had bucket loads of cash and could afford to spend that much. I'd get a season ticket, whether we were in the Conference South or Premiership.

Of course if we were playing at a low level and poor quality the cost would be nowhere near that high. I'd certainly pay current prices if I had it, even if we were playing much worse than now.

the Seasons I went to the most games were probably the ones when we fighting relegation in the late 90s.


It's not a contradiction Tredder, but it is a pipe dream. I don't not care about football, it's just if you want to weight it. Reading FC = 80%, Football in general = 20%. But Football in general in the context of supporting RFC is still quite important, because it effects us a lot.

[Tredder]

I think Reading FC without football would equate to saturday afternoon shopping in Brent X.

[Alan Partridge]

I wouldn't like the quality of football, I'd want us to play and perform better. And I can't argue I'd go every game for obvious reasons. But I wouldn't go any less than now and it would still be Reading I support, because it is Reading I care about. Not football.

''But I wouldn't go any less than now and it would still be Reading I support''

Don't doubt that bit.


"because it is Reading I care about. Not football"

If you were paying say £1500 a year on it, you soon would.

If I could afford it, I would pay it. If I had bucket loads of cash and could afford to spend that much. I'd get a season ticket, whether we were in the Conference South or Premiership.

Of course if we were playing at a low level and poor quality the cost would be nowhere near that high. I'd certainly pay current prices if I had it, even if we were playing much worse than now.

the Seasons I went to the most games were probably the ones when we fighting relegation in the late 90s.


It's not a contradiction Tredder, but it is a pipe dream. I don't not care about football, it's just if you want to weight it. Reading FC = 80%, Football in general = 20%. But Football in general in the context of supporting RFC is still quite important, because it effects us a lot.

My original point wasn't about going down, relegation scraps or playing in lower divisions. It was about style of play and if we went 'Watford style' by that I mean just larrup it to two big lads for 90minutes every game, they did it in the championship and also premiership under Boothroyd so the cost would be as i say or even more.

Saying (not you personally) but if fans shall we say are paying £1500 a year on away trips and another £4-500 on a home season ticket and get served that, would you be happy to continue doing that? Just because it's Reading? If you would then fair play I admire your dedication, as for me absolutely no chance, I can see that at a much lower level and a much lower cost. It's a hypothetical question really and one I hope we never have to answer in reality. To follow that on to another question, yes I would sacrifice a place in the Premiership if it meant we played more football (as we currently do) in the championship rather than the 'Watford hoof' style in the Prem.

[Woodcote Royal]

Isn't the first viewpoint on this topic absolute comedy gold?

Can't see either leaving anytime soon so supporting Reading's going to be a whole lot duller and uninspiring than in recent years

On that note, can i say that, every plastic i've spoken to has said how dump they are playing and how they can't believe the points they are accruing, surely that confirms the thread holders point?

Only if your head's several feet up his backside.

[The 17 Bus]

your heads do get the english right, ish

[Royal Lady]

your heads do get the english right, ish

Your head's. You're both wrong. And LOL that if someone agrees with Schards they must have their head up his @rse. Aren't people allowed to have their opinions, unless it's the same as yours?

[Ian Royal]

AP I'm going to refuse to answer. I know what I'd like to say, but I'm smart enough to know what you're getting at and I know I can't guarantee I'd go as much and spend as much. Although I wouldn't go elsewhere for certain.

The memory of the Burns era is too recent. Buggering off to Uni couldn't have come at a better time. Of course having to be there for 3 years did get irritating when Curo and Butler were tearing the place up.

[SpaceCruiser]

You think the Burns era was bad? I reckon the period between 1989 and 1992 was a lot worse when things were looking bleak and mediocre. We even had that horrible tv interference shirt.