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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by RoyalChicagoFC » 14 Feb 2009 14:22

soggerz Valencia are now over a month without being paid. The owners promise to pay up by yesterday has apparently not happened.

By that you mean Valencia Club de Fútbol --or "Los Che" to the faithful? All nooze t'me. :shock:

soggy biscuit Milan fail to increase their £5M offer for David Beckham so the boy returns to the Mickey Mouse league.

He'll fit right in (see sequence from 2:48 --at which point I knew he wasn't long for these shores and said so out loud; as is their wont, they scoffed :roll:).

Anyway we'll see. Dave's made himself quite useful, as we have seen, in the red and black, and I can't blame the Galz for holding out; double what's on the table would seem a reasonable starting point to me, and I wouldn't be happy to walk away with less than an even splitting of the difference (meh, gimme eight and he's your'n).

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by RoyalChicagoFC » 14 Feb 2009 19:10

Germany: Hertha leapfrog Hoffenheim and Bayern into top spot at one bound as they beat the latter 2-1 in Berlin and the former are hammered by Leverkusen on Friday, as reported above.

Hamburg a chance to draw level in second with Hoffenheim, a point back of Hertha and one in front of Bayern, if they beat Arminia @ home on Sunday.

Also today, Schalke beaten and Werder drawn, so ground lost to the new leaders and other title chasers.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by Starfish » 14 Feb 2009 19:11

Up and down like a jockey's ballox this league.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by RoyalChicagoFC » 14 Feb 2009 19:15

Fun, innit --and hadn't Hoffenheim been holding top spot since Luther was a loyal papist?

Er, within a 2008/9 frame of reference, that is.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by soggy biscuit » 15 Feb 2009 13:21

Barcelona - Played 23 scored 70
Chelsea - Played 25 scored 44
Hoffenheim - Played 20 Scored 42
Inter Milan - Played 23 scored 40
Bordeaux - Played 24 scored 40


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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by RoyalChicagoFC » 15 Feb 2009 15:12

soggy biscuit Barcelona - Played 23 scored 70
Chelsea - Played 25 scored 44
Hoffenheim - Played 20 Scored 42
Inter Milan - Played 23 scored 40
Bordeaux - Played 24 scored 40

Only let 18 past 'em, too --and four of those from Betis.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by soggy biscuit » 25 Feb 2009 20:13

Juve get working again on the Delle Alpi and confirm that they are modelling the new design on La Bombonera (I would freaking love to visit La Bombonera!!!!)

€100M, reading for the 2010/11 season.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by Tony Le Mesmer » 03 Mar 2009 11:12

Graet goal from Mascara in the Sicilian Derby on Sunday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQwuwGFgZ64

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by soggy biscuit » 04 Mar 2009 12:18

soggy biscuit Milan fail to increase their £5M offer for David Beckham so the boy returns to the Mickey Mouse league.

Surely Beckham himself has enough money to add some to that transfer if he wanted it badly enough?


Reports in the U.S suggest that Milan are paying £5M to keep him on loan for the rest of this season. He then goes back to LA Galaxy until Novemnber when the season ends at which point he is paying the £5M release clause himself and will become a Milan player.


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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by RoyalChicagoFC » 04 Mar 2009 12:44

Sounds about right.

I posted the same thing within the last month but shall do it again herewith: watch Dave take leave of Ameriker from 2:48, right after they show replays of the first Chivas goal from several angles; keep an eye on the dude in all whites, and note how it all ends.

It's worth pointing out that this was a prefab plastic derby ("El SupercLOLassico" --hey, there's no denying that at least all the tickets got sold :roll:), and the Galz were fighting for any of an abundance of available playoff spots. Or at least on paper. Or whatever.

None of what's been going on with this comes as any surprise to me whatsoever --and as a fan, I'd sooner see him playing for Milan anyway; we get their game just about every week as it is.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by RoyalChicagoFC » 21 Mar 2009 00:14

Win for pacesetters AZ away to Utrecht last Sunday, combined with PSV losing away to Feyenoord on the same day, ends PSV's current run of consecutive Eredivisie titles at four with seven games left on the current campaign.

The Alkmaar side stand 11 points in front of second best Twente and would clinch the second Eredivisie title in club history and first since 1980/1 if they could manage to wring an identical 11 points from their remaining games.

PSV are fifth, which, with the new UEFA qualification scheme in force under the KNVB, would force them to play off at season's end with the sixth- thru eighth-placed finishers for a second qualifying round berth in next season's Europa League (whereas in recent years, a fifth place finish would have sufficed to get them into a playoff with second thru fourth, with a spot in Champions League qualifying the winners' prize). Rough times in Eindhoven.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by RG30 » 21 Mar 2009 00:55

Not technically Europe but the MLS season started on Thursday with the new franchise the Seattle Sounders kicking off their debut season with a 3-0 win over the New York Red Bulls. The Sounders have some familiar names on their books with the likes of Kasey Keller and Freddie Ljunbgerg signed up. Staying with MLS, they've announced the new franchises to be joining the league from 2011 with the teams to be based in Vancouver and Portland. This will take the MLS up to 18 teams, with the new franchise in Phillidelphia coming in next season.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by RoyalChicagoFC » 22 Mar 2009 15:35

Oh my dear goodness me --keep an eye out for Ibra's second and Inter's third on about 58', and never mind that it was Reggina's back line thru which he slalomed before chipping the 'keeper from range. Thierry Henry would be proud to claim one like it for himself --wow.

RG30 Not technically Europe but the MLS season started on Thursday with the new franchise the Seattle Sounders kicking off their debut season with a 3-0 win over the New York Red Bulls. The Sounders have some familiar names on their books with the likes of Kasey Keller and Freddie Ljunbgerg signed up.

Wire service reports tell of Ljungberg's shock upon being recognized and warmly welcomed by the locals when out doing routine business such as grocery shopping.

Highlights of Seattle's curtain-raiser here. How the flag stayed down on their opener is utterly beyond me. Keller with a few quality saves.


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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by FORSTERS_RIGHT_FOOT » 22 Mar 2009 18:53

Barcelona absolutely taking the piss out of Malaga.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by Team_Of_Kevin_Doyles » 22 Mar 2009 20:41

FORSTERS_RIGHT_FOOT Barcelona absolutely taking the piss out of Malaga.


Ended up 6-0 and Atletico Mardrid are currently trailing at Mallorca.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by handbags_harris » 22 Mar 2009 21:25

RoyalChicagoFC Win for pacesetters AZ away to Utrecht last Sunday, combined with PSV losing away to Feyenoord on the same day, ends PSV's current run of consecutive Eredivisie titles at four with seven games left on the current campaign.


I was there 8)

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by RoyalChicagoFC » 03 Apr 2009 16:05

HNA? witness to history --plenty to like there.

Right kids, with the last international break of the league campaigns behind us and the run-in set to go uninterrupted, I figured this'd be as good a time as any for a look at the situation in the big leagues on the continent.

As I'm sure that most must know by now, the Intertoto and UEFA Cups as we've come to know them will no longer exist from next season, and in their stead is this Europa League thing that combines the two, adds a series of qualifying rounds over the summer and then boils it down to a knockout round over two legs from which 12 groups of four emerge --out of which the top two in each join the Champions League third-place finishers in group play to make the final 32, who are paired off in a two-legged knockout format of the like now familiar to us all.

The problem I'm having is getting decent information with respect to who gets in --how many places per country, more or less. I do believe that lower-division cup runners-up no longer get to play on in international club competitions in the event that the cup winner is already qualified via league position; from now on, the spot goes to the next placed side in the top league.

So with these caveats in mind, here's where we stand...

SPAIN --10 games remaining
Barcelona have been a topic of interest in this and other GF threads, and it's down to Real Madrid and themselves for the title after the former suffered a recent wobble. Six points separate them, and I just don't see Barca pissing away the title; the two are set to square off over the weekend of 2nd/3rd May.

Sevilla are a solid if distant third --for which an automatic entry into the Champions League group stage would be their reward-- currently 15 points adrift of Barca and 9 back of Real, and they enjoy a six-point edge over Villarreal in fourth. Six points behind the latter stand four sides battling for the two available Europa League spots, each of them now on 43 points: Atletico, Valencia, Deportivo and Malaga, with Valladolid four points behind that pack.

At the bottom end, EspanYol --who seem to alternate seasons chasing continental rewards and relegation-- are sat bottom, eight points from safety and in need of something heroic to beat the drop. As for the rest, all eleven sides not named above as pursuers of UEFA club rewards for next season could be said to be in a relegation battle, with Santander and Gijon heading up the trailing pack on 33 points apiece --just four points clear of Osasuna, who stand in 18th three points better than Numancia.

Athletic Bilbao and Barcelona are this year's Copa del Rey finalists.

ITALY --9 games remaining
Inter would appear to have another scudetto just about in the bag, with Juventus seven points behind them and just about the only ones capable of keeping it interesting as the wire draws ever closer. Milan are third, trailing Juve by an identical seven points and four points better than Genoa as they seek to hold on and thereby gain automatic entry into the Champions League group stage.

Also in the hunt for fourth are Fiorentina on 49 points and Roma on 46. Challenging those two for fifth and sixth are Cagliari, Palermo, Lazio and Atalanta.

Behind them is a four-pack of mid-tablers with not much hope of getting in on the UEFA scramble but not a lot in the way of relegation worries, either. Bringing up the rear are Reggina on 20 points and six clear of safety, with Torino and Lecce both four points better. Bologna are holding on in 17th with 26 points, and also casting wary glances over their shoulders are Siena and Chievo on 31 and 30, respectively.

Sampdoria and Lazio will meet in the Coppa Italia final.

GERMANY --9 games left
Hertha Berlin top the Bundesliga table on 49 points, and the fun only begins there as each of Bayern, Wolfsburg and Hamburg stand a point behind the leaders in pursuit of the title, with a top-two finish granting automatic qualification for next season's Champions League group stage and third place good enough for the third qualifying round of the Champions League; Europa League places are consolation for those finishing in fourth and fifth.

Currently fifth and four points back of the chasing pack are Hoffenheim, themselves two points better than Stuttgart. Familiar names comprising the upper middle portion of the table are Leverkusen on 38 points, Schalke and Dortmund on 37 each and both Werder Bremen and Cologne on 32 and ten points clear of the drop.

The German Cup is now at the semifinal stage, with Leverkusen, Hamburg, Werder and second division Mainz still in the game.

Relegation worries for Eintracht Frankfurt and Hannover on 26 apiece and four points clear of Monchengladbach in 16th. Bochum and Arminia Bielefeld are in between on 25 and 24 points, respectively; behind 'Gladbach in the relegation places are Cottbus on 20 and basement side Karlsruhe three points father back.

FRANCE --9 games left
Lyon, topping the table on 55 points and in pursuit of their eight consecutive title in Ligue 1, are a point better than Marseille as they enter the home stretch. Also making a run at a top-two finish are Bordeaux on 53, and behind them follow the three-pack of Toulouse, Lille and PSG on 52 points each; Rennes on 48 are the only other side that reasonably might be expected to make a run at the current top six.

Semifinalists in the Coupe de France are Toulouse, Rennes, Grenoble and second division side Guingamp, and Bordeaux are set to meet Ligue 2 side Vannes in the final of the Coupe de La Ligue.

At the bottom, Le Havre are toast on 18 points, eleven short of safety. Any two of the bottom dozen sides in the table could join them in Ligue 2 next season, with Caen currently 19th on 27 points, Sochaux and St-Etienne on 29 each and both Nancy and Nantes a point in front of those two. A grandstand finish at both ends is shaping up nicely in France.

NETHERLANDS --6 games left
As noted previously in this thread, AZ are well poised to claim the club's second Eredivisie crown, needing just 10 points from their remaining six games to finish in front of second-placed Twente. Also as noted, PSV are arithmetically eliminated from title contention after winning the last four.

The Dutch have changed their qualification regime for UEFA competitions --in short, the champions go to the Champions League group stage with the runners up claiming a spot in the third qualifying round; third and fourth go to the Europa League, and fifth thru eighth play off for a last Europa League berth.

At the relegation end of things...eh, it's Holland, so never mind. Dutch Cup semifinalists are Twente, Volendam, NAC and Heerenveen.

If anybody'd care to take on the situation in lesser national leagues or the promotion picture in the second divisions, well, it's an open thread, and we're all about spreadin' the knowLOLedge...

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by bobbybottler » 05 Apr 2009 21:28

RoyalChicagoFC NAC

The fabulous full name of the club is "Nooit opgeven altijd doorzetten Aangenaam door vermaak en nuttig door ontspanning Combinatie Breda".

In English, it means "Never give up always persevere, pleasant for its entertainment and useful for its relaxation, Combination, Breda"

The Wikipedia author of the club's page suggests that this might be the longest club name in the world. It's certainly the most charming.

PS Regarding relegation from Eredivisie, De Graafschap have been shite all season, and are looking increasingly doomed in their second season the top flight. They play in a familiar blue and white hooped kit.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by RoyalChicagoFC » 05 Apr 2009 21:53

:shock: And here I thought NAC was some outfit that made office machines or computing hardware --you know, like TNS, f'rinstance. Major props "FO" the knowledge --never a waste of a day to lean something new, eh.

Watch Wolfsburg destroy Bayern --and artfully-- on the first Bundesliga matchday off of the international break. This one stands alone.

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Re: European Leagues Thread 2008/2009

by FORSTERS_RIGHT_FOOT » 05 Apr 2009 22:46

RoyalChicagoFC :shock: And here I thought NAC was some outfit that made office machines or computing hardware --you know, like TNS, f'rinstance. Major props "FO" the knowledge --never a waste of a day to lean something new, eh.

Watch Wolfsburg destroy Bayern --and artfully-- on the first Bundesliga matchday off of the international break. This one stands alone.


:shock: What a goal!

LOLz at the english commentator though. :lol:

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