Why Lita Doesn't Work

[Snowball]

These are the results with Noel Hunt/Doyle or Long-Doyle this season

Partnered by Hunt (a few times by Long, do the strikers score?)

4-2 PALACE YES! Long-Doyle, Doyle Double: Hunt Doyle (Hat-Trick)
6-0 WEDNESDAY YES! YES! Doyle (3) Hunt (2)
4-0 SWANSEA YES! YES! Doyle (2) Hunt (1)
3-1 BURNLEY YES! (Doyle-Hunt (1), YES! Doyle-Long (1)
2-1 DONCASTER YES! Doyle (1)
4-1 Bristol YES! YES! (Doyle(2) Hunt (1)
3-0 DERBY YES! YES! (Doyle(1)-Hunt(1), Long-Doyle (1)
2-0 Sheff UTD YES! Doyle (1)
2-2 Cardiff YES! Doyle (1)
3-1 COVENTRY YES! Hunt (2)
2-0 NORWICH (YES) Hunt-Doyle (0) Doyle-Long (1)
3-1 Birmingham YES & YES Hunt (1) Long on for Hunt Doyle (1)
1-1 Saints YES Doyle & Long (1) Hunt came on 79 goal 84
4-0 WATFORD Yes! Yes! Hunt (1) & Doyle (1)

1-0 WOLVES (NO) But Hunt pressure led to winning OG
1-0 BLACKPOOL NO
3-0 Wolves NO
1-0 Barnsley (NO)) Hunt off at 56 for Gunnarson (1)
2-2 Watford NO
0-0 QPR NO
1-1 CARDIFF NO
1-2 Preston NO (Doyle off on 69)
0-1 Burnley NO
0-2 Ipswich NO
1-2 SAINTS NO.


0-2 Swansea NO

54 goals for 21





P26 W16 D5 L5 = 53 points = 2.04 points/game

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Lita partnering Doyle
Do either score?

0-0 Forest NO
2-0 PLYMOUTH NO (2 goals from Sonko)
2-4 Charlton NO (Sonko & Hunt)
0-0 QPR NO
0-0 Preston NO
0-2 Bristol NO

W1 D3 L2 4-6 = 1.0 pts/game

Two sub-games

4-0 WATFORD NO, Lita on for Doyle and Lita scores in 90th
0-2 Swansea NO, Lita refused to feed Doyle for clear chance

[Schards#2]

Seriously, I can't be bothered to digest all that.

[papereyes]

To be honest, that doesn't tell us anything as to why it doesn't work; it merely thoroughly shows us that it does not work.

[Huntley & Palmer]

Congratulations on proving our second top scorer is better than our third top scorer.

[Ian Royal]

But the Stats! The glorious glowing stats tell us everything!

They are the way Long must play every minute of every game and the stats tell us he will finish the season on 20 goals if he does!!!! blabber gibber gibber, snort.

[Wycombe Royal]

Your presentration of stats needs a lot of work. That is just a mess and I doubt many have the time to try and work out what the hell it is trying to show (although it hasn't hard to guess).

[FiNeRaIn]

Seriously, I can't be bothered to digest all that.

So why bother commenting on it then?

[Thomas L'Heureux]

This is a poorly thought out argument.

Why have you singled out Lita?! If anything, your argument should be stating that the Doyle and Lita partnership doesn't work, not wrongly single-ing out one of those players.

[RobRoyal]

To be honest, that doesn't tell us anything as to why it doesn't work; it merely thoroughly shows us that it does not work.

Agreed. And we all knew it anyway. Another zzz-fest from Snowball.

[hughsies no.1]

after saturdays result the last thing i need to see on a monday is more bl**dy stats from you know who and them showing shane LOLong is better than Lita. because he aint and Long really is not the answer to our goalscoring problems. the answer behind our goalscoring issues are the lack of creativity starting from defence in hoof the ball pearce and in midfield which hopefully coppell will now see and start marek and the fact that teams have sussed us out. now i couldnt find any stats to prove that (and wouldnt even bother looking for any!) but i believe thats pretty much general consensus among reading fans.

[CMRoyal]

From the man who spent dozens of posts last week explaining why Bristol City were rubbesh.

snowball you have some good points to make, but they carry much more weight when not covered by acres of stats. In my opinion, no disrespect etc etc...

[SteveRoyal]

Dazzling stats, but it doesn't have any words in it to explain "Why Lita Doesn't Work"...

[Snowball]

Those stats are straightforward

When Lita and DOYLE play together, neither scores and the points per game
are less than half they are when Doyle partners Hunt (and occasionally Long)

The clown who says this is me arguing for Long is just a total prat.

I have consistently said our best pairing by a street is Doyle with Noel Hunt

24 goals Doyle-Hunt Partnership (26 games, once as sub, once off after 30 mins)
07 goals Doyle-Long Partnership (03 games, one 60 minutes, the rest as sub)
00 goals Doyle-Lita Partnership (06 games, once as sub.. Lita's only goal, 90th minute when not partnering Doyle)

31 goals by the strikers when Lita isn't playing
00 goals by the strikers when Lita plays

[Thomas L'Heureux]

Those stats are straightforward

When Lita and Long play together, neither scores and the points per game
are less than half they are when Doyle partners Hunt (and occasionally Long)

The clown who says this is me arguing for Long is just a total prat.

I have consistently said our best pairing by a street is Doyle with Noel Hunt

24 goals Doyle-Hunt Partnership (26 games, once as sub, once off after 30 mins)
07 goals Doyle-Long Partnership (03 games, one 60 minutes, the rest as sub)
00 goals Doyle-Lita Partnership (06 games, once as sub.. Lita's only goal, 90th minute when not partnering Doyle)

31 goals by the strikers when Lita isn't playing
00 goals by the strikers when Lita plays

Nobody disagrees. Doyle and Noel Hunt are clearly the best partnership we have.

However, why doesn't Lita work?!

[Snowball]

Dazzling stats, but it doesn't have any words in it to explain "Why Lita Doesn't Work"...

True, I was going to title the thread, "Why Lita shouldn't play"

The thread, of course should be "Why Lita-Doyle doesn't work, when Hunt-Doyle does."

I was quite surprised to see that Doyle-Long had produced 7 goals

[cmonurz]

Congratulations on posting more stats which show that Lita hasn't scored many goals for Reading.

On the basis of your successful week last week, where you provided 5 essays of information as to why City wouldn't beat us at home, I now look forward to Lita scoring 15 goals in the next game, and Doye scoring 43.

[papereyes]

Those stats are straightforward

When Lita and Long play together, neither scores and the points per game
are less than half they are when Doyle partners Hunt (and occasionally Long)

The clown who says this is me arguing for Long is just a total prat.

I have consistently said our best pairing by a street is Doyle with Noel Hunt

24 goals Doyle-Hunt Partnership (26 games, once as sub, once off after 30 mins)
07 goals Doyle-Long Partnership (03 games, one 60 minutes, the rest as sub)
00 goals Doyle-Lita Partnership (06 games, once as sub.. Lita's only goal, 90th minute when not partnering Doyle)

31 goals by the strikers when Lita isn't playing
00 goals by the strikers when Lita plays

Yeah, we get it. They don't work.

Any insight into *why*?

[Row Z Royal]

These are the results with Noel Hunt/Doyle or Long-Doyle this season

Partnered by Hunt (a few times by Long, do the strikers score?)

4-2 PALACE YES! Long-Doyle, Doyle Double: Hunt Doyle (Hat-Trick)
6-0 WEDNESDAY YES! YES! Doyle (3) Hunt (2)
4-0 SWANSEA YES! YES! Doyle (2) Hunt (1)
3-1 BURNLEY YES! (Doyle-Hunt (1), YES! Doyle-Long (1)
2-1 DONCASTER YES! Doyle (1)
4-1 Bristol YES! YES! (Doyle(2) Hunt (1)
3-0 DERBY YES! YES! (Doyle(1)-Hunt(1), Long-Doyle (1)
2-0 Sheff UTD YES! Doyle (1)
2-2 Cardiff YES! Doyle (1)
3-1 COVENTRY YES! Hunt (2)
2-0 NORWICH (YES) Hunt-Doyle (0) Doyle-Long (1)
3-1 Birmingham YES & YES Hunt (1) Long on for Hunt Doyle (1)
1-1 Saints YES Doyle & Long (1) Hunt came on 79 goal 84
4-0 WATFORD Yes! Yes! Hunt (1) & Doyle (1)

1-0 WOLVES (NO) But Hunt pressure led to winning OG
1-0 BLACKPOOL NO
3-0 Wolves NO
1-0 Barnsley (NO)) Hunt off at 56 for Gunnarson (1)
2-2 Watford NO
0-0 QPR NO
1-1 CARDIFF NO
1-2 Preston NO (Doyle off on 69)
0-1 Burnley NO
0-2 Ipswich NO
1-2 SAINTS NO.


0-2 Swansea NO

54 goals for 21





P26 W16 D5 L5 = 53 points = 2.04 points/game

==========================

Lita partnering Doyle
Do either score?

0-0 Forest NO
2-0 PLYMOUTH NO (2 goals from Sonko)
2-4 Charlton NO (Sonko & Hunt)
0-0 QPR NO
0-0 Preston NO
0-2 Bristol NO

W1 D3 L2 4-6 = 1.0 pts/game

Two sub-games

4-0 WATFORD NO, Lita on for Doyle and Lita scores in 90th
0-2 Swansea NO, Lita refused to feed Doyle for clear chance

He's the STAT MAN

Be ba ba badaboop

[Wycombe Royal]

24 goals Doyle-Hunt Partnership (26 games, once as sub, once off after 30 mins)
07 goals Doyle-Long Partnership (03 games, one 60 minutes, the rest as sub)
00 goals Doyle-Lita Partnership (06 games, once as sub.. Lita's only goal, 90th minute when not partnering Doyle)

31 goals by the strikers when Lita isn't playing
00 goals by the strikers when Lita plays

So why couldn't you have summarised it like that in the first place? You were far more likely to get constructive responses.

[papereyes]

24 goals Doyle-Hunt Partnership (26 games, once as sub, once off after 30 mins)
07 goals Doyle-Long Partnership (03 games, one 60 minutes, the rest as sub)
00 goals Doyle-Lita Partnership (06 games, once as sub.. Lita's only goal, 90th minute when not partnering Doyle)

31 goals by the strikers when Lita isn't playing
00 goals by the strikers when Lita plays

So why couldn't you have summarised it like that in the first place? You were far more likely to get constructive responses.

Given his thread title, I don't think so.