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Sorry chap I did take into accout what Lita has done elsewhere as it seems only fair (they are all playing in the same league and we are looking for an accurate comparison) I also took into account the cup as that seemed fair for N Hunt (2 goals) and for Long as a comparison of playing time.
No it ISN'T fair, nor is it strictly comparable. Some players can score at one club but not at another. I truly don't care what he does elsewhere. I DO care what he does FOR READING and he has had six starts ALL GOALLESS this season. More importantly, in all those six starts, the other strikers haven't scored either. He doesn't gel with the other strikers, ploughs his own furrow. I have a feeling he's not popular and may cause unrest in the dressing-room
I do not include cup games because they are far too variable. The teams do not bear any relation to the first team in the league AND Coppell has made it clear he doesn't much care about the cups. By remaining consistent and completely ignoring all cup matches and sticking with league games, I am being totally fair. I mean, why not include reserve games, too?
I appreciate your interest in the league, but, Long has plainly failed when given the chance to impress against lower division opposition in the cup (as has Lita), whilst N Hunt has done OK, therefore for an accurate comparison between Long and N Hunt this should be taken into account.
No. I am only interested in the league. End of.
What I can't understand is your unwillingness to include Lita's games for Norwich, as these were at the same level and also back up your theory that Long is a better player (though Lita is still Norwich's top scorer).
Sometimes, when a new manager comes in, players perk up and get 2-3 good results then fall back.
Lita went away to Norwich, said he liked it there, played in a different team with a different system
and had one particularly good game. He had God knows how many chances, but it was well over 50.
The Norwich site shows he had 49 shots in his 16 games there. Compare that to Kevin Doyle who is
second top scorer in the league with his 18 league goals, yet has only had 63 shots in 34 games.
Doesn't that suggest that the system there was giving him an awful lot of chances? His conversion rate
was quite poor. He needed 7 shots (more than seven chances therefore) per goal. Without going through
every one of the 16 games he played there to find out if he played the full 90 each time... (1430 minutes)
He played 16 games, got 7 goals, 3 in a single game, so 4 in his other 15 games
Anyway, his overall average is 1430+575 minutes for 8 goals = 251 minutes a goal, just short of 3 games req'd for a goal
BTW, I am NOT saying "Long is a better player than Lita"
I am saying "Long gets more goals per game than Lita, Long gels better with the other Reading strikers, than Lita, Long is not selfish like Lita Long gets on well in the dressing room, Long has scored many crucial goals.
Even if you include Lita's best season 4 season's ago!
LITA ----------------LONG
22 (04) 11 goals ---- 01 (10) 03 goals
22 (11) 07 goals ---- 09 (12) 02 goals
10 (04) 01 goals ---- 07 (22) 03 goals
06 (04) 01 goals ---- 03 (23) 04 goals
60 (23) 19 goals ---- 20 (67) 12 goals
If you call a sub appearance .2 of a game (18 minutes)...
64.6 games 19 goals = 1 goal every 3.40 games
LITA33.4 games 12 goals = 1 goal every 2.78 games
LONGAnd let's not forget Long was a very young raw kid when he started here, Lita had had a couple of years in League 1 (and he's 2+ years older