European Leagues Thread 2012/2013
To answer my own question - he (Wolfgang and the Wolf Gang) is to start working in Greece for a club I am too tired to copy the paste the name of, on July 1st.
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Dutch Cup final on Sunday, FC Twente Enschede play Heerenveen.
Could be a close game, Heerenveen don't get a lot of coverage in the UK as they don't have a celebrity former England manager in charge, but they are a well-run club and consistently earn European qualification.
Notwithstanding that, FC Twente, nailed on.
Could be a close game, Heerenveen don't get a lot of coverage in the UK as they don't have a celebrity former England manager in charge, but they are a well-run club and consistently earn European qualification.
Notwithstanding that, FC Twente, nailed on.
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Lens promoted back to Ligue 1 in France. Troyes who played in the top division only 2 years ago (and UEFA Cup 7 years ago) are on the verge of being relegated from Ligue 2 to Le Championnat where clubs are only allowed to remain professional for 2 years before turning amatuer.
LOLZ @ the quite ridiculous play off system used in the Dutch second division. You can quite literally finish bottom of the league and still get promoted.
LOLZ @ the quite ridiculous play off system used in the Dutch second division. You can quite literally finish bottom of the league and still get promoted.
soggy biscuit LOLZ @ the quite ridiculous play off system used in the Dutch second division. You can quite literally finish bottom of the league and still get promoted.
Which poses the question, whats the point in even having a league, why not get straight down to playoffs?
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Inter claim the Serie A title this weekend after Milan lose to udinese on Saturday night. They quite enjoyed it in the team hotel.
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Enjoyable as the Wolfsburg story is out of Germany, there's also Bordeaux now atop the French top flight where they and Marseille have been doing a decent impression of the after-you/no-you-first dance of the Old Firm these days.
Both Girondins and OM won when all of Ligue 1 played last midweek, but the latter reclaimed top spot on goal difference, winning by two as Bordeaux needed a late winner to prevail.
Over the last weekend, Bordeaux again needed a late goal to win on Saturday and clinched a berth in the Champions League group stage in the bargain (and made certain that Lyon's run of league titles ends at seven).
Marseille and Lyon then squared off at the Velodrome on Sunday, and the visitors walked away 3-1 winners with Juninho padding the lead with a late goal from a freekick; will Marseille be made to rue that one if they end up on level points with Bordeaux? Lyon assured themselves of no worse than a fourth place finish in any event, and here's where they stand:
Bordeaux (74/+28/62g).....Monaco (H) Caen (A)
Marseille (71/+27/61g).....Nancy (A) Rennes (H)
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Lyon (67/+21/49g)..........Caen (H) Toulouse (A)
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PSG (63/+12/48g)...........Valenciennes (A) Monaco (H)
Toulouse (60/+16/43g).....Nice (A) Lyon (H)
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Lille (58/+10/47g)...........Le Havre (A) Nancy (H)
Rennes (58/+10/39g).......Lorient (H) Marseille (A)
At the bottom end, Le Havre are down on 25 points, and seven others remain under threat of relegation with two rounds remaining to be played (Nantes/34 Sochaux/36 St-Etienne/37 Caen/37 Le Mans/38 Valenciennes/41 Nancy/42).
In Spain, Atletico moved past Valencia and Villarreal into fouth position with their win on Sunday. The overall situation there, where none have been relegated and the current bottom nine remain under threat with two rounds left, will be worth looking at one of these days.
Both Girondins and OM won when all of Ligue 1 played last midweek, but the latter reclaimed top spot on goal difference, winning by two as Bordeaux needed a late winner to prevail.
Over the last weekend, Bordeaux again needed a late goal to win on Saturday and clinched a berth in the Champions League group stage in the bargain (and made certain that Lyon's run of league titles ends at seven).
Marseille and Lyon then squared off at the Velodrome on Sunday, and the visitors walked away 3-1 winners with Juninho padding the lead with a late goal from a freekick; will Marseille be made to rue that one if they end up on level points with Bordeaux? Lyon assured themselves of no worse than a fourth place finish in any event, and here's where they stand:
Bordeaux (74/+28/62g).....Monaco (H) Caen (A)
Marseille (71/+27/61g).....Nancy (A) Rennes (H)
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Lyon (67/+21/49g)..........Caen (H) Toulouse (A)
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PSG (63/+12/48g)...........Valenciennes (A) Monaco (H)
Toulouse (60/+16/43g).....Nice (A) Lyon (H)
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Lille (58/+10/47g)...........Le Havre (A) Nancy (H)
Rennes (58/+10/39g).......Lorient (H) Marseille (A)
At the bottom end, Le Havre are down on 25 points, and seven others remain under threat of relegation with two rounds remaining to be played (Nantes/34 Sochaux/36 St-Etienne/37 Caen/37 Le Mans/38 Valenciennes/41 Nancy/42).
In Spain, Atletico moved past Valencia and Villarreal into fouth position with their win on Sunday. The overall situation there, where none have been relegated and the current bottom nine remain under threat with two rounds left, will be worth looking at one of these days.
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AZ fans obviously happy with the new managerial appointment
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Reggina dumped out of Serie A after losing 1-0 away to Lazio in a fixture rearranged to accommodate preparations for next Wednesday at Stadio Olimpico.
They'll be joined in Serie B by two of Lecce (on 29 points headed into the season's penultimate round), Bologna (33), Torino (34) and Chievo (37).
Promoted from Serie B are Bari and Parma. Two rounds remain to be played there, with those finishing third thru sixth going to a promotion playoff.
Got the UEFA Cup final on, and it's been pretty entertaining stuff (although first half > second half to this point). Anyway, I did a lookup on Razvan Rat of Shakhtar and found this:
They'll be joined in Serie B by two of Lecce (on 29 points headed into the season's penultimate round), Bologna (33), Torino (34) and Chievo (37).
Promoted from Serie B are Bari and Parma. Two rounds remain to be played there, with those finishing third thru sixth going to a promotion playoff.
Got the UEFA Cup final on, and it's been pretty entertaining stuff (although first half > second half to this point). Anyway, I did a lookup on Razvan Rat of Shakhtar and found this:
Wikkerz Raţ had been linked with a move to Scottish Premier League team, Celtic F.C, as well as League One goliaths Leeds United in a deal thought to be worth £2.7million.[citation needed]
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Luis Figo announces his retirement from football
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Bundesliga cLOLockwatch
Table going in:
Wolfsburg (66/+35/75s)......Werder (H)
Bayern (64/+28/69s)..........Stuttgart (H)
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Stuttgart (64/+21/62s).......Bayern (A)
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Hertha (63/+11/48s)..........Karlsruhe (A)
B Dortmund (58/+23/59s)....'Gladbach (A)
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Hamburg (58/+1/46s).........Frankfurt (A)
'Gladbach (30/-23/38s)......Dortmund (H)
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Bielefeld (27/-27/27s).......Hannover (H)
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Cottbus (27/-30/27s).......Leverkusen (H)
Karlsruhe (26/-28/26).......Hertha (H)
2': Bielefeld 1-0 Hannover (Eggimann og)
6': Wolfsburg 1-0 Werder (Misimovic)
15': Wolfsburg 2-0 Werder (Grafite)
16': Bayern 1-0 Stuttgart (Boulahrouz og)
22': Frankfurt 0-1 Hamburg (Jarolim)
26': Wolfsburg 3-0 Werder (Prodl og)
30': Bayern 1-0 Stuttgart (Krstajic --did NOT score for Stuttgart; still 1-0, bad reporting soz)
31': Wolfsburg 3-1 Werder (Diego)
33': Karlsruhe 1-0 Hertha (Freis)
40': Karlsruhe 2-0 Hertha (Franz)
45': Cottbus 0-0 Leverkusen (Vidal s/o for Leverkusen)
HT: Hamburg into fifth at the expense of Borussia Dortmund; Karlsruhe a nose in front of Cottbus; other'n that, as you were
50' Cottbus 1-0 Leverkusen (Jula)
56': Wolfsburg 4-1 Werder (Grafite)
57': Bielefeld 1-1 Hannover (Stajner)
57': 'Gladbach 1-0 Dortmund (Dante)
58': Frankfurt 0-2 Hamburg (Olic)
60': Bayern 2-0 Stuttgart (van Bommel)
61': Frankfurt 1-2 Hamburg (Meier)
62': Karlsruhe 3-0 Hertha (Kennedy)
63': Frankfurt 2-2 Hamburg (Caio)
63': Bayern 2-1 Stuttgart (Gomez)
64' 'Gladbach 1-1 Dortmund (Blaszczykowski)
64' Cottbus 2-0 Leverkusen (Rivic)
69': Cottbus 3-0 Leverkusen (Jula)
72': Karlsruhe 4-0 Hertha (Kennedy)
73': Wolfsburg 5-1 Werder (Dzeko)
84': Bielefeld 1-2 Hannover (Pinto)
90': Frankfurt 2-3 Hamburg (Trochowski)
90': Bielefeld 2-2 Hannover (Wichniarek)
FT: Wolfsburg 5-1 Werder Wolfsburg are champions
FT: Bayern 2-1 Stuttgart Bayern are runners up; Stuttgart finish third
FT: Karlsruhe 4-0 Hertha Hertha finish fourth; Karlsruhe second bottom and relegated
FT: Frankfurt 2-3 Hamburg Hamburg finish fifth
FT: 'Gladbach 1-1 Dortmund Borussia Dortmund finish sixth; 'Gladbach are safe
FT: Bielefeld 2-2 Hannover Bielefeld finish bottom and are relegated
FT: Cottbus 3-0 Leverkusen Cottbus finish third bottom and are spared the drop for now; will play off over two legs with either Mainz or Nurnberg
Table going in:
Wolfsburg (66/+35/75s)......Werder (H)
Bayern (64/+28/69s)..........Stuttgart (H)
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Stuttgart (64/+21/62s).......Bayern (A)
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Hertha (63/+11/48s)..........Karlsruhe (A)
B Dortmund (58/+23/59s)....'Gladbach (A)
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Hamburg (58/+1/46s).........Frankfurt (A)
'Gladbach (30/-23/38s)......Dortmund (H)
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Bielefeld (27/-27/27s).......Hannover (H)
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Cottbus (27/-30/27s).......Leverkusen (H)
Karlsruhe (26/-28/26).......Hertha (H)
2': Bielefeld 1-0 Hannover (Eggimann og)
6': Wolfsburg 1-0 Werder (Misimovic)
15': Wolfsburg 2-0 Werder (Grafite)
16': Bayern 1-0 Stuttgart (Boulahrouz og)
22': Frankfurt 0-1 Hamburg (Jarolim)
26': Wolfsburg 3-0 Werder (Prodl og)
30': Bayern 1-0 Stuttgart (Krstajic --did NOT score for Stuttgart; still 1-0, bad reporting soz)
31': Wolfsburg 3-1 Werder (Diego)
33': Karlsruhe 1-0 Hertha (Freis)
40': Karlsruhe 2-0 Hertha (Franz)
45': Cottbus 0-0 Leverkusen (Vidal s/o for Leverkusen)
HT: Hamburg into fifth at the expense of Borussia Dortmund; Karlsruhe a nose in front of Cottbus; other'n that, as you were
50' Cottbus 1-0 Leverkusen (Jula)
56': Wolfsburg 4-1 Werder (Grafite)
57': Bielefeld 1-1 Hannover (Stajner)
57': 'Gladbach 1-0 Dortmund (Dante)
58': Frankfurt 0-2 Hamburg (Olic)
60': Bayern 2-0 Stuttgart (van Bommel)
61': Frankfurt 1-2 Hamburg (Meier)
62': Karlsruhe 3-0 Hertha (Kennedy)
63': Frankfurt 2-2 Hamburg (Caio)
63': Bayern 2-1 Stuttgart (Gomez)
64' 'Gladbach 1-1 Dortmund (Blaszczykowski)
64' Cottbus 2-0 Leverkusen (Rivic)
69': Cottbus 3-0 Leverkusen (Jula)
72': Karlsruhe 4-0 Hertha (Kennedy)
73': Wolfsburg 5-1 Werder (Dzeko)
84': Bielefeld 1-2 Hannover (Pinto)
90': Frankfurt 2-3 Hamburg (Trochowski)
90': Bielefeld 2-2 Hannover (Wichniarek)
FT: Wolfsburg 5-1 Werder Wolfsburg are champions
FT: Bayern 2-1 Stuttgart Bayern are runners up; Stuttgart finish third
FT: Karlsruhe 4-0 Hertha Hertha finish fourth; Karlsruhe second bottom and relegated
FT: Frankfurt 2-3 Hamburg Hamburg finish fifth
FT: 'Gladbach 1-1 Dortmund Borussia Dortmund finish sixth; 'Gladbach are safe
FT: Bielefeld 2-2 Hannover Bielefeld finish bottom and are relegated
FT: Cottbus 3-0 Leverkusen Cottbus finish third bottom and are spared the drop for now; will play off over two legs with either Mainz or Nurnberg
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Wolfsburg just let a goal in but still "should" get the title for the 1st time ever which is pretty impressive.
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Penultimate round in Ligue 1 just finished.
Bordeaux 1-0 winners at home to Monaco and maintain their three-point edge over Marseille, winners 2-1 away to Nancy. So a draw away to Caen next Saturday would suffice to crown Bordeaux champions (but a loss coupled with a win for Marseille would hand the title to the latter on goal difference, and Caen will be going all out to beat the drop), and both they and Marseille are securely into the group stage of the Champions League for 2009/10.
Lyon are into the third qualifying round for the Champions League as they win 3-1 over Caen at home. PSG's 2-1 defeat away to Valenciennes is just icing, and the former will do no better than to reach the Europa League.
Still in contention for that competition are Toulouse (2-0 winners away to Nice), now level on 63 points with PSG and indeed ahead of them in fourth on goal difference, and both Rennes (3-1 winners at home to Lorient) and Lille (1-0 winners away to Le Havre) two points back; Lille moved ahead of Rennes into sixth on goal difference today.
Here's the top of the table headed into next Saturday's final round:
Bordeaux (77/+29/63g).....Caen (A)
Marseille (74/+28/62g).....Rennes (H)
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Lyon (70/+23/52g)..........Toulouse (A)
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Toulouse (63/+18/45g).....Lyon (H)
PSG (63/+11/49g)...........Monaco (H)
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Rennes (61/+12/42g).......Marseille (A)
Lille (61/+11/48g)...........Nancy (H)
At the bottom end, Valenciennes made themselves safe with their win over PSG, and Nancy were made safe by results below them despite their loss to Marseille. Le Havre were long gone headed into play.
Nantes lost 2-1 away to Sochaux, which hoisted the latter out of the bottom three and left themselves in the second bottom position, three points from safety and in a world of hurt, effectively assured of finishing in the bottom three on goal difference no matter what happens next weekend.
Sochaux leapfrogged St-Etienne (losers 1-0 away to Auxerre), Caen (who lost at Lyon) and Le Mans, who drew 1-all at home to Grenoble.
Here's how it all looks now at the bottom end:
Sochaux (39/-9/39g)........Grenoble (A)
Le Mans (39/-11/42g).......Lorient (A)
Caen (37/-6/42g)............Bordeaux (H)
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St-Etienne (37/-20/36g)....Valenciennes (H)
Nantes (34/-22/31g)........Auxerre (H)
Le Havre (25)................relegated
Next Saturday's kickoffs @ 2000 BST
Bordeaux 1-0 winners at home to Monaco and maintain their three-point edge over Marseille, winners 2-1 away to Nancy. So a draw away to Caen next Saturday would suffice to crown Bordeaux champions (but a loss coupled with a win for Marseille would hand the title to the latter on goal difference, and Caen will be going all out to beat the drop), and both they and Marseille are securely into the group stage of the Champions League for 2009/10.
Lyon are into the third qualifying round for the Champions League as they win 3-1 over Caen at home. PSG's 2-1 defeat away to Valenciennes is just icing, and the former will do no better than to reach the Europa League.
Still in contention for that competition are Toulouse (2-0 winners away to Nice), now level on 63 points with PSG and indeed ahead of them in fourth on goal difference, and both Rennes (3-1 winners at home to Lorient) and Lille (1-0 winners away to Le Havre) two points back; Lille moved ahead of Rennes into sixth on goal difference today.
Here's the top of the table headed into next Saturday's final round:
Bordeaux (77/+29/63g).....Caen (A)
Marseille (74/+28/62g).....Rennes (H)
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Lyon (70/+23/52g)..........Toulouse (A)
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Toulouse (63/+18/45g).....Lyon (H)
PSG (63/+11/49g)...........Monaco (H)
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Rennes (61/+12/42g).......Marseille (A)
Lille (61/+11/48g)...........Nancy (H)
At the bottom end, Valenciennes made themselves safe with their win over PSG, and Nancy were made safe by results below them despite their loss to Marseille. Le Havre were long gone headed into play.
Nantes lost 2-1 away to Sochaux, which hoisted the latter out of the bottom three and left themselves in the second bottom position, three points from safety and in a world of hurt, effectively assured of finishing in the bottom three on goal difference no matter what happens next weekend.
Sochaux leapfrogged St-Etienne (losers 1-0 away to Auxerre), Caen (who lost at Lyon) and Le Mans, who drew 1-all at home to Grenoble.
Here's how it all looks now at the bottom end:
Sochaux (39/-9/39g)........Grenoble (A)
Le Mans (39/-11/42g).......Lorient (A)
Caen (37/-6/42g)............Bordeaux (H)
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St-Etienne (37/-20/36g)....Valenciennes (H)
Nantes (34/-22/31g)........Auxerre (H)
Le Havre (25)................relegated
Next Saturday's kickoffs @ 2000 BST
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Folks, if posting a link to a story, it would be nice if you could add a headline - just to save us the bother. If you're too lazy to add the 'Jol goes to Ajax' headline, you might understand that other posters might be too lazy to want to read a story that is not exactly 'news'. Click. Know. Click. Know. Click. Yawn.
The power of +1 doesn't transfer so well to GF, does it?
The power of +1 doesn't transfer so well to GF, does it?
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Starfish Folks, if posting a link to a story, it would be nice if you could add a headline - just to save us the bother. If you're too lazy to add the 'Jol goes to Ajax' headline, you might understand that other posters might be too lazy to want to read a story that is not exactly 'news'. Click. Know. Click. Know. Click. Yawn.
The power of +1 doesn't transfer so well to GF, does it?
Especially given you can use the power of those little grey buttons at the top ^^^
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First leg of the Division 1 third last vs. Division 2 3rd from top tonight. Looking very very very (3 times very) good.
Cottbus 0 1.FC Nuremberg 3.
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/ov ... HD=germany
Cottbus 0 1.FC Nuremberg 3.
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/ov ... HD=germany
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I don't follow German football much at all, but am aware this is Wolfsburg's first title - is this achievement like Middlesbrough winning the Premier League, or more Everton or Villa?
cmonurz I don't follow German football much at all, but am aware this is Wolfsburg's first title - is this achievement like Middlesbrough winning the Premier League, or more Everton or Villa?
Wolfsburg were always a middle of the table team (like Coventry used to be
) but they are VW's football team and have spent quite a lot of money (in German terms) over the past couple of seasons. I would say that Spurs are the best analogy I can think of (but with Wigan's support).Obviously more people have been going to see them this season and last though.
(Somebody with statistics will murder me here I suspect).
Anyway, 1.FCN looking for the top flight again. The only negative thing is I won't get to witness another victory over 1860 next season. Schade.
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