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Re: New Signings ?

by Ian Royal » 04 Jul 2009 16:03

The fact he could leave for nothing at the end of the season can have a bearing on these things. As can Watford's financial situation.

It is certainly worth taking into consideration. Of course I also think Jay will be surprised by how much we're willing to spend in transfer fees as well.

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Re: New Signings ?

by Hogmeister Royal » 04 Jul 2009 18:07

The Sun (a reliable source if ever there was one) say we're in for Tyson (at £1m), which might have a glimmer of truth given Buck's comment about "bringing in 2-4 players that I've worked with before".

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by Cookie » 04 Jul 2009 18:35

Hogmeister Royal The Sun (a reliable source if ever there was one) say we're in for Tyson (at £1m), which might have a glimmer of truth given Buck's comment about "bringing in 2-4 players that I've worked with before".


They've picked that up from the Chronicle.

Forest have signed McGoldrick from Saints. (He's a Nottingham boy) But that would give them a lot of strikers so maybe the rumour has legs? :lol:

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Re: New Signings ?

by RoyalBlue » 04 Jul 2009 21:20

Ian Royal The fact he could leave for nothing at the end of the season can have a bearing on these things. As can Watford's financial situation.

It is certainly worth taking into consideration.


Maybe it can have a bearing on these things but the fact that a club is reported to have bid £1.8M for Smith's services would suggest that neither the fact that he could leave at the end of this season nor Watford's financial situation is having much of an effect on this occasion. That being the case, it seems pretty futile taking it into consideration!! Hence the fact that we seem unlikely to secure a player that Rodgers appeared very keen to sign.

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Re: New Signings ?

by Deathy » 04 Jul 2009 21:38

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Super_horns Rodgers still wants Smithy it seems but would your chairman be prepared to pay 1.8 million for a guy out of contract next summer?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/04072009/ ... union.html


It's more of a case of is that much money available for players, let alone just the one? I don't think it is. Times are a lot harder here than many seem to think. I'd be delighted if we actually had £1.5m as a transfer budget this summer.

Smith is a terrific player at this level, and is a good age. But he isn't worth £1.8m with 12 months left on his contract. £1m would be good business IMO.


What relevance how long his contract has left to run?!

As with everything else in this world, his current worth is what someone else is prepared to pay for him!


Sure, but in less than 12 months Tommy Smith will be a free transfer. Never worth £1.8m. But then Chopra isn't worth £4m and Cardiff have just paid that to bring him back.


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Re: New Signings ?

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 04 Jul 2009 21:44

Buying Smith for 1.8m would be an investment, it is up to the club to decide if it is a good investment, if he came on a 4 year deal, scored 30 goals and we went up we would say we did good, if he then bombed in the prem, but we got the money back from a champ side, we would still have done good.

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Re: New Signings ?

by Super_horns » 04 Jul 2009 22:51

Priskin would be interested in joining you (or rather working with Rodgers again)

Guess its not great surprise after the confidence Rodgers gave him to improve.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 92,00.html

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Re: New Signings ?

by Cookie » 05 Jul 2009 00:48

Harpers So Solid Crew Buying Smith for 1.8m would be an investment, it is up to the club to decide if it is a good investment, if he came on a 4 year deal, scored 30 goals and we went up we would say we did good, if he then bombed in the prem, but we got the money back from a champ side, we would still have done good.



He's aged 29 and he's out of contract next year. £1,800,000 is a lot of money for a player you're not going to sell on for a profit. It's not the Hammond way. (Probably)

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Re: New Signings ?

by Mike Hunt » 05 Jul 2009 02:35

Super_horns Priskin would be interested in joining you (or rather working with Rodgers again)

Guess its not great surprise after the confidence Rodgers gave him to improve.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 92,00.html



Snap him up!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: New Signings ?

by Northern Git » 05 Jul 2009 10:54

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Ian Royal The fact he could leave for nothing at the end of the season can have a bearing on these things. As can Watford's financial situation.

It is certainly worth taking into consideration.


Maybe it can have a bearing on these things but the fact that a club is reported to have bid £1.8M for Smith's services would suggest that neither the fact that he could leave at the end of this season nor Watford's financial situation is having much of an effect on this occasion. That being the case, it seems pretty futile taking it into consideration!! Hence the fact that we seem unlikely to secure a player that Rodgers appeared very keen to sign.


Its our old friends at Sheff United that have had a bid of £1.8 million accepted. Suppose its part of their West Ham £10 million compensation.

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Re: New Signings ?

by Royal Lady » 05 Jul 2009 11:24

Weren't we always told by Mr Mad that the money was available if Copps wanted to buy a player? If Smith goes to, Sheff Utd for £1.8 mill and we offered, in comparison, a derisory £750k, that more than backs up my previous comments on this subject, that although "there is money available" it is never enough!

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Re: New Signings ?

by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 05 Jul 2009 11:27

Hogmeister Royal ... given Buck's comment about "bringing in 2-4 players that I've worked with before".

mind you, it can't be 2-4 players that he's played with before, as he must be about the only pro manager in the game who has never played a professional match in his life.

I would guess he'd lean more towards players he's known at Chelsea & Watford rather than ones here, and Tyson hasn't really shone at this level.

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Re: New Signings ?

by Ian Royal » 05 Jul 2009 11:35

Royal Lady Weren't we always told by Mr Mad that the money was available if Copps wanted to buy a player? If Smith goes to, Sheff Utd for £1.8 mill and we offered, in comparison, a derisory £750k, that more than backs up my previous comments on this subject, that although "there is money available" it is never enough!


We've been told that by Coppell as well. And it's been demonstrated by some of our failed bids and other things that have since come out.

Maybe we just don't think he's worth that. And by we, for all any of us know that includes Rodgers. Just because someone else wants to spend over the odds for him doesn't mean we'll follow suit.

We'll pay what we think he's worth and if someone else has bid significantly above that, we'd be entirely right to go looking elsewhere. If we think he is worth it, I'd expect a further bid from us. Given he's worked with Rodgers fairly well, we'd have a very good chance of winning against another team.

In fact that may be why that other team has bid so much. They may think he is only worth £1.2m say, but to have a chance of getting him they have to pay higher than we would be prepared to bid. Watford are unlikely to accept less than £1.8m now someone has bid it.


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Re: New Signings ?

by brendywendy » 05 Jul 2009 11:57

Royal Lady Weren't we always told by Mr Mad that the money was available if Copps wanted to buy a player? If Smith goes to, Sheff Utd for £1.8 mill and we offered, in comparison, a derisory £750k, that more than backs up my previous comments on this subject, that although "there is money available" it is never enough!



could it not also mean that rodgers with hammond have decided that smith is worth 0.75- 1 Million as hes nearly 30, and injury prone
and once the offers from other clubs went above that valuation they decided to go elsewhere?

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Re: New Signings ?

by leww_rfc » 05 Jul 2009 12:26

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Super_horns Priskin would be interested in joining you (or rather working with Rodgers again)

Guess its not great surprise after the confidence Rodgers gave him to improve.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 92,00.html



Snap him up!!!!!!!!!!


'greed!!

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by Sarah Star » 05 Jul 2009 13:56

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Super_horns Priskin would be interested in joining you (or rather working with Rodgers again)

Guess its not great surprise after the confidence Rodgers gave him to improve.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 92,00.html



Snap him up!!!!!!!!!!


'greed!!


and which clever Dick changed his Wikipedia entry to read "Current club: Reading"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tam%C3%A1s_Priskin

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Re: New Signings ?

by winchester_royal » 05 Jul 2009 13:58

The way i see it....either Smith or Prisking would represent an excellent investment. Smith would bring some experience and quality to the front-line, whilst Priskin would appear to be an ideal replacement for Doyle. Either would do.

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Re: New Signings ?

by Royal Lady » 05 Jul 2009 16:57

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Royal Lady Weren't we always told by Mr Mad that the money was available if Copps wanted to buy a player? If Smith goes to, Sheff Utd for £1.8 mill and we offered, in comparison, a derisory £750k, that more than backs up my previous comments on this subject, that although "there is money available" it is never enough!


We've been told that by Coppell as well. And it's been demonstrated by some of our failed bids and other things that have since come out.

Maybe we just don't think he's worth that. And by we, for all any of us know that includes Rodgers. Just because someone else wants to spend over the odds for him doesn't mean we'll follow suit.

We'll pay what we think he's worth and if someone else has bid significantly above that, we'd be entirely right to go looking elsewhere. If we think he is worth it, I'd expect a further bid from us. Given he's worked with Rodgers fairly well, we'd have a very good chance of winning against another team.

In fact that may be why that other team has bid so much. They may think he is only worth £1.2m say, but to have a chance of getting him they have to pay higher than we would be prepared to bid. Watford are unlikely to accept less than £1.8m now someone has bid it.
They bid £600k more than they think he's worth, AFTER we offered 750k? Why wouldn't they just bid what they think he's worth and then up it if someone came in higher?

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Re: New Signings ?

by brendywendy » 05 Jul 2009 17:30

they think hes worth it to them, right now

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Re: New Signings ?

by Deathy » 05 Jul 2009 17:34

They, like a lot of you, think we have a lot of money to spend, so they're bumping up the price and the idiots in Sheffield seem prepared to pay it. Where as we don't actually have that sort of money!

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