The perspective thread.

[Half Horse]

Firstly, no apologies for a new thread.

Secondly, a little perspective. We've drawn against the biggest spenders in the division and lost away to the biggest club in the division.

It would seem that plenty of people on this board feel that Reading FC have some sort of god-given right to challenge for at least a place in the playoffs even though there are 23 other teams with the same ambitions. It may not happen - get over it.

Brendan Rogers is a manager with very limited experience and an extremely limited budget. It may take two or three seasons before he moulds the youngsters and his acquisitions into a unit that can challenge for promotion. Now you're beginning to understand just how good Coppell was. Get used to it.

If anyone here honestly believes that John Madejski is a football man first and a businessman second then I can recommend a good psychiatrist. Without Madejski we would be nowhere and the sad little shouts of "Madejski open your wallet" are simply laughable. Madjeski bank-rolled this club when we had nothing and were nowhere and now, if he wants to take his money out plus interest, why the hell shouldn't he?

Why don't all the moaners get together and buy Madejski out? Maybe because none of them has the balls to put his money where his mouth is! If you want to see money thrown at a football club you're going to the wrong place on a Saturday afternoon. Maybe those Forest chants sussed you out!

Football at this level can be a cyclical thing and for some of us the last few years have been the best we've ever seen. Sadly, we're now in the Championship Manager age whereby many people simply don't understand the game and expect success as a given.

We may never again be in the Premier League. Get over it.

[Platypuss]

Firstly, no apologies for a new thread.

No apologies for merging it.

[Half Horse]

Firstly, no apologies for a new thread.

No apologies for merging it.

No apologies accepted!

[Wimb]

The words 'we may never be premier league again' hit you quite hard when you read them.

But the sad thing is that there is a real chance they may be true. Heck it took over 100 years to get in the first time. But is getting to the Premier League the only thing that excites some people? Is how you get there, or try to get there not just as fun?

We've been spoiled rotten by multiple seasons of success spoilt only by a dramatic relegation on goal difference from the top league in the world.

It's nice to have a new era though, we've been through the Magoo years of small investment and a two year rise from the doldrums to the edge of the Premiership.

The up and down dross of the Jim and Mick years where little things like spanking Wolves or two late Archie goals are the best things in the world, the countless away defeats and dissapointing home games filled with the likes of Meaker, Swailes, Booty all buried in the back of your mind.

Then an appalling relegation season that still had dramatic cup runs, a manic transfer deadline day and a big name manager coming to town.

The move to the Mad Stad... the fact that we are lucky enough to play in one of the best (if not the biggest) stadiums in the UK.

Dark days in Divison Two, loving wins over Stoke at home, whilst only being able to laugh at the 6-0 mauling at home to Rovers. Players the likes of Martin Williams and Chris Casper et all.

Then Pardew comes in with John Gorman then Mad Dog and Dillon. From relegation fodder we begin to look like a team in with a shout. Butler, Cureton, Igoe, Shorey, Salako, Watson all come into the fray.

Chucking away promotion to Rotherham and then the emptyness felt after Cardiff.

Promotion seemingly in the bag only to dissapear before your eyes until Rouge scores at Tranmere and Curo nets at Brentford.

Division 1 football again. 7th season since the war we've been in the 2nd flight and how magic did it feel just go to places like Derby again rather then Macclesfield and Cambridge.

Fozzies injury at Wolves thwarting us.

Then Coppell, and the rest is history.

Whilst this is a nostalgic trip through memory lane from my own perspective. This is the perspective thread and the fact is that RFC have provided talking points and entertainment ever since they were formed.

72 teams plus the thousands in the league pyramid dream of Premiership football, we had it and have a 3/24 chance of achieving it again this season. if you ask me, this is fooking brilliant.

[cmonurz]

What grates with me Wimb, and despite thinking about it for a while today, I still can't quite put it into words properly - but it just feels like we have chosen to begin a new era. And that's not right.

A 'new era' happens naturally - a couple of senior players retire, a star player moves on, results worsen a little, and so on. But this feels like a decline that set in at the very top during the second half of last season that we have just let happen. Let us not forget we came 4th last time - contrary to many of the posts on this thread, I think that does give Reading fans a right to expect a promotion challenge this season.

We have taken a lot of transfer fees this summer, and yet we are not investing.

I don't know, it just feels, and has done for some time, like we aren't really trying. I know I'm losing enthusiasm for it for the 'fight', because it doesn't seem to me that the club is.

Why have we not replaced our strikers? What are our goals for this season? I can't get my head around it.

[FiNeRaIn]

We are poorly managed.

We are " doing a leeds" without even being in debt

How does a club go from 8th in the prem to bottom 3 in the championship while being WELL IN THE BLACK. This is like a nightmare.

[winchester_royal]

We are poorly managed.

We are " doing a leeds" without even being in debt

How does a club go from 8th in the prem to bottom 3 in the championship while being WELL IN THE BLACK. This is like a nightmare.

WE ARE 3 GAMES INTO THE SEASON YOU THICK TW@T

[FiNeRaIn]

We are poorly managed.

We are " doing a leeds" without even being in debt

How does a club go from 8th in the prem to bottom 3 in the championship while being WELL IN THE BLACK. This is like a nightmare.

WE ARE 3 GAMES INTO THE SEASON YOU THICK TW@T

Oh that doesn't matter than, you thick twat. Whats the point in having a table at all

[Royal Monk]

WE ARE 3 GAMES INTO THE SEASON YOU THICK TW@T

Yes with no goals scored and no prospects ..... Mr Mad has pulled the plug and we're going down the plug hole

[winchester_royal]

We are poorly managed.

We are " doing a leeds" without even being in debt

How does a club go from 8th in the prem to bottom 3 in the championship while being WELL IN THE BLACK. This is like a nightmare.

WE ARE 3 GAMES INTO THE SEASON YOU THICK TW@T

Oh that doesn't matter than, you thick twat. Whats the point in having a table at all

The table isn't relevant until at least 10 games into the season.

Good lord the numpties are out in force this evening.

[Royal Monk]

The table isn't relevant until at least 10 games into the season.

Of course it is you dipshit ... after 10 games we will be on 3 points and the leaders on 20+ ... what are you going to say then

[winchester_royal]

WE ARE 3 GAMES INTO THE SEASON YOU THICK TW@T

Yes with no goals scored and no prospects ..... Mr Mad has pulled the plug and we're going down the plug hole

Look at BR's record with Watford, and how his first month there went.

RFC fans: As shitty as the town they're from.

[FiNeRaIn]

Good lord the numpties are out in force this evening.

Yeah, what you still doing up?

Id imagine the table won't look much different if we keep playing this current side. We are this seasons southampton im afraid. Inexperienced manager, inexperienced kids and no firepower. League one might be a decent looking league next season.

[winchester_royal]

The table isn't relevant until at least 10 games into the season.

Of course it is you dipshit ... after 10 games we will be on 3 points and the leaders on 20+ ... what are you going to say then

How d'you work that one out?

[SHORT AND CURLY]

Don't worry everyone we are building for the future.

[winchester_royal]

Good lord the numpties are out in force this evening.

Yeah, what you still doing up?

Id imagine the table won't look much different if we keep playing this current side. We are this seasons southampton im afraid. Inexperienced manager, inexperienced kids and no firepower. League one might be a decent looking league next season.

Amazing how you can make such predictions after only 3 games in.

[Royal Monk]

How d'you work that one out?

Bit of a guestimate on our current form but you know what i mean

[FiNeRaIn]

Its what usually happenes to any side who blood half of their youth players in one go, they end up failing. Play a few by all means, to build a side around them...umm no.

[winchester_royal]

How d'you work that one out?

Bit of a guestimate on our current form but you know what i mean

Really? We have an average of 1 point at home, and 0.5 points away at the moment. So if our 'current' form continues we'd have at least 7 points, 8 if you round up the remaining .5

[winchester_royal]

Its what usually happenes to any side who blood half of their youth players in one go, they end up failing. Play a few by all means, to build a side around them...umm no.

We'll see.