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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Huntley & Palmer » 04 Sep 2009 12:51

I thought this was how all youth purchases worked, even in the lower leagues, everyone gets tapped up?

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by papereyes » 04 Sep 2009 13:04

Huntley & Palmer I thought this was how all youth purchases worked, even in the lower leagues, everyone gets tapped up?


This isn't being tapped up. I thought what made this different was that it was a breach of contract by the French lad, with financial rewards by Chelsea as the motivation. Hence his ban as well.

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by readingbedding » 04 Sep 2009 13:56

Any attempts by Chelsea to delay the hearing in the hope of having the transfer ban frozen by the CAS, thereby enabling them to buy players in January, are likely to fail as Fifa seems certain to fast-track the appeal.

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by 1960 » 04 Sep 2009 17:04

Something I don't understand. I can cope with the concept that English clubs can steal from European clubs because they can sign contracts here at a younger age. So why don't UEFA and European law standardise the contract age so that no country has an advantage or disadvantage?

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Stranded » 04 Sep 2009 18:00

1960 Something I don't understand. I can cope with the concept that English clubs can steal from European clubs because they can sign contracts here at a younger age. So why don't UEFA and European law standardise the contract age so that no country has an advantage or disadvantage?


Restraint of trade laws?


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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Royal Lady » 04 Sep 2009 18:08

I've asked this on another thread on this, but I do hope BR wasn't involved in this in any way or could they not bring sanctions on him as an individual, even if he was?

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by Deathy » 04 Sep 2009 18:34

Royal Lady I've asked this on another thread on this, but I do hope BR wasn't involved in this in any way or could they not bring sanctions on him as an individual, even if he was?


He wouldn't have been. He was reserve team manager from 2004 - 2008. I've never heard anyone claim a reserve team manager signed a player before, recommend maybe, but he wouldn't have had any official dealings in any signings.

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Arnie_Pie » 04 Sep 2009 23:50

Another Hitler rehash but a good one nonetheless - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRjNBkKk ... re=popular

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Deathy » 05 Sep 2009 00:10

Arnie_Pie Another Hitler rehash but a good one nonetheless - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRjNBkKk ... re=popular


But :lol:

"and we're stuck with Fat Frank and that kunt who sticks mobiles up his arse" :lol:


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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Ian Royal » 05 Sep 2009 00:53

I liked: We've spent half a billion pounds and we're still no bigger than Fulham!

Downfall is such a goddamn good film, and that scene is genius for this sort of thing.

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Royal Lady » 05 Sep 2009 12:29

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Royal Lady I've asked this on another thread on this, but I do hope BR wasn't involved in this in any way or could they not bring sanctions on him as an individual, even if he was?


He wouldn't have been. He was reserve team manager from 2004 - 2008. I've never heard anyone claim a reserve team manager signed a player before, recommend maybe, but he wouldn't have had any official dealings in any signings.

He was Youth team manager from 2004-2006, but I hadn't realised he was reserve team manager from 2006, so he obviously wasn't involved.

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by cmonurz » 06 Sep 2009 15:10

Good idea or bad idea?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 240350.stm

Gordon Taylor supports a ban on the transfer of any player under the age of 18. This would incentivise the development of academy programmes and prevent the big clubs 'poaching' young, undeveloped, talent from across the world. Seems to me it might level the playing field a bit, but would the big clubs not just find more ways to ensure that the best talent finds their way into their academies at younger ages?


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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Deathy » 06 Sep 2009 17:10

cmonurz Good idea or bad idea?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 240350.stm

Gordon Taylor supports a ban on the transfer of any player under the age of 18. This would incentivise the development of academy programmes and prevent the big clubs 'poaching' young, undeveloped, talent from across the world. Seems to me it might level the playing field a bit, but would the big clubs not just find more ways to ensure that the best talent finds their way into their academies at younger ages?


The big clubs already find ways to get these youngsters to their academies anyway. I like this idea.

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Ian Royal » 06 Sep 2009 18:52

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cmonurz Good idea or bad idea?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 240350.stm

Gordon Taylor supports a ban on the transfer of any player under the age of 18. This would incentivise the development of academy programmes and prevent the big clubs 'poaching' young, undeveloped, talent from across the world. Seems to me it might level the playing field a bit, but would the big clubs not just find more ways to ensure that the best talent finds their way into their academies at younger ages?


The big clubs already find ways to get these youngsters to their academies anyway. I like this idea.


They can't take every youngster out there, just not possible. It's really hard to spot what youngsters are going to be able to make it at a top level at an age young enough to get them into an academy (pre 12?).

Sounds like a decent idea.

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Stranded » 07 Sep 2009 07:51

cmonurz Good idea or bad idea?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 240350.stm

Gordon Taylor supports a ban on the transfer of any player under the age of 18. This would incentivise the development of academy programmes and prevent the big clubs 'poaching' young, undeveloped, talent from across the world. Seems to me it might level the playing field a bit, but would the big clubs not just find more ways to ensure that the best talent finds their way into their academies at younger ages?


In theory a good idea, but they have to be careful that they do not treat younger players differently from more experienced professionals.

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by dean horrix legend » 06 Nov 2009 11:58

Embargo lifted as chelsea have appealled,what happens if they lose their appeal?

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by TBM » 06 Nov 2009 12:00

dean horrix legend Embargo lifted as chelsea have appealled,what happens if they lose their appeal?


It stands

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by Deathy » 06 Nov 2009 12:03

dean horrix legend Embargo lifted as chelsea have appealled, what happens if they lose their appeal?


So just because they've appealled, the embargo is lifted? Surely it stands until the decision is either reversed, or confirmed once again. :|

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Re: Chelsea Transfer Embargo

by handbags_harris » 06 Nov 2009 12:05

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 319573.stm

BBC Sport Chelsea's transfer ban has been temporarily suspended by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) pending a final decision on the matter.

Fifa had ruled the club could not sign players until 2011 after inducing Gael Kakuta to break his Lens contract.

But Chelsea appealed to Cas, which said on Friday: "Such sanctions are now stayed until the Cas renders its final decision in this matter."

The decision means Chelsea could be able to sign players in January.

No date has been given for a final decision from Cas.

Fifa had banned the Premier League leaders in September from any activity during the next two transfer windows after they were found guilty of inducing Kakuta, now aged 18, to breach his contract with French club Lens in 2007.

Under the terms of the original Fifa punishment, French teenager Kakuta was ordered to pay compensation of 780,000 euros (£710,000), for which Chelsea were "jointly and severally liable".

Chelsea were also told to pay Lens "training compensation" of 130,000 euros (£118,000).

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