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Re: Great save

by Bill Oddie's Beard » 11 Sep 2009 15:16

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When the defender clearly and deliberately passes back to the 'keeper, then, funnily enough, that's a back pass.

Most 'keepers wallop it away so as to remove any doubt or because there isn't time to check with the ref.

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I know what a back pass is and you're not addressing the point by the way. An indirect free kick for a back pass can only be given if the 'keeper catches or holds the ball. :roll:














Oh, and :lol:


RZR is right. Does anyone remember when Simon Sheppard had to do a bicycle kick to stop a back pass, think it was away to Southend.

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Re: Great save

by Row Z Royal » 11 Sep 2009 15:18

I thinK I'm just the victim of a deliberate & vicious backpass rule confusion campaign.

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Re: Great save

by Archie's penalty » 11 Sep 2009 15:20

Interesting so - if someone passes the ball intentionally to the goalkeeper but it goes towards the top corner, the goalie can either head or chest it or simply has to let it go into the net? Wow I didn't know that.

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Re: Great save

by Bill Oddie's Beard » 11 Sep 2009 15:22

Archie's penalty Interesting so - if someone passes the ball intentionally to the goalkeeper but it goes towards the top corner, the goalie can either head or chest it or simply has to let it go into the net? Wow I didn't know that.


Yup, or bicycle kick it a la SS

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Re: Great save

by Maguire » 11 Sep 2009 15:23

This is one of those moments where i'm totally :| and wondering whether the rest of the world is an idiot or whether I am.

Do people honestly, really think that if someone passes the ball back to me deliberately that I can stop it with my hands as long as I don't actually hold on to it? Why on earth do you see keepers slicing awkward back passes into touch every week if they could just stick a hand behind it?


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Re: Great save

by Archie's penalty » 11 Sep 2009 15:29

Maguire This is one of those moments where i'm totally :| and wondering whether the rest of the world is an idiot or whether I am.

Do people honestly, really think that if someone passes the ball back to me deliberately that I can stop it with my hands as long as I don't actually hold on to it? Why on earth do you see keepers slicing awkward back passes into touch every week if they could just stick a hand behind it?


Of course I understand the principle of the difficult back pass and having to clear it out. It's the very rare occasions when someone hits a very awkward backpass into the topcorner (a la Coupet). I thought you could at least tip it over. What would the ref give if he did? I suppose an indirect freekick in the box.

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Re: Great save

by TheMaraudingDog » 11 Sep 2009 15:30

Maguire This is one of those moments where i'm totally :| and wondering whether the rest of the world is an idiot or whether I am.

Do people honestly, really think that if someone passes the ball back to me deliberately that I can stop it with my hands as long as I don't actually hold on to it? Why on earth do you see keepers slicing awkward back passes into touch every week if they could just stick a hand behind it?



'greed.

Note how its the numptys that have never played the game that don't seem to know the rules.

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Re: Great save

by Row Z Royal » 11 Sep 2009 15:31

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Maguire This is one of those moments where i'm totally :| and wondering whether the rest of the world is an idiot or whether I am.

Do people honestly, really think that if someone passes the ball back to me deliberately that I can stop it with my hands as long as I don't actually hold on to it? Why on earth do you see keepers slicing awkward back passes into touch every week if they could just stick a hand behind it?


Of course I understand the principle of the difficult back pass and having to clear it out. It's the very rare occasions when someone hits a very awkward backpass into the topcorner (a la Coupet). I thought you could at least tip it over. What would the ref give if he did? I suppose an indirect freekick in the box.



Yes. Exactly that.

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Re: Great save

by papereyes » 11 Sep 2009 15:43

This is one of those moments where i'm totally :| and wondering whether the rest of the world is an idiot or whether I am.


This is Hobnob.

Its different.


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Re: Great save

by Cocker » 11 Sep 2009 15:49

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Maguire This is one of those moments where i'm totally :| and wondering whether the rest of the world is an idiot or whether I am.

Do people honestly, really think that if someone passes the ball back to me deliberately that I can stop it with my hands as long as I don't actually hold on to it? Why on earth do you see keepers slicing awkward back passes into touch every week if they could just stick a hand behind it?


Of course I understand the principle of the difficult back pass and having to clear it out. It's the very rare occasions when someone hits a very awkward backpass into the topcorner (a la Coupet). I thought you could at least tip it over. What would the ref give if he did? I suppose an indirect freekick in the box.



Yes. Exactly that.


On a side note... could/would the ref then send the goalkeeper off?

As he has illegally (and quite clearly deliberately) stopped a clear goal scoring opportunity?

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Re: Great save

by Archie's penalty » 11 Sep 2009 15:51

Cocker On a side note... could/would the ref then send the goalkeeper off?

As he has illegally (and quite clearly deliberately) stopped a clear goal scoring opportunity?


I wonder if that has ever happened?

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Re: Great save

by Row Z Royal » 11 Sep 2009 15:53

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Of course I understand the principle of the difficult back pass and having to clear it out. It's the very rare occasions when someone hits a very awkward backpass into the topcorner (a la Coupet). I thought you could at least tip it over. What would the ref give if he did? I suppose an indirect freekick in the box.



Yes. Exactly that.


On a side note... could/would the ref then send the goalkeeper off?

As he has illegally (and quite clearly deliberately) stopped a clear goal scoring opportunity?


It doesn't seem to fall under "deliberate hand ball" so not in that sense, but it might be a bookable offence for unsporting behaviour, at the referee's discretion.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affeder ... gameen.pdf (page 32 onwards for fouls & punishments)

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Re: Great save

by TheMaraudingDog » 11 Sep 2009 16:03

Cocker On a side note... could/would the ref then send the goalkeeper off?

As he has illegally (and quite clearly deliberately) stopped a clear goal scoring opportunity?



Jeez :roll:


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Re: Great save

by Maguire » 11 Sep 2009 16:23

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Cocker On a side note... could/would the ref then send the goalkeeper off?

As he has illegally (and quite clearly deliberately) stopped a clear goal scoring opportunity?


I wonder if that has ever happened?


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No he wouldn't send him off.

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Re: Great save

by Archie's penalty » 11 Sep 2009 16:24

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Cocker On a side note... could/would the ref then send the goalkeeper off?

As he has illegally (and quite clearly deliberately) stopped a clear goal scoring opportunity?


I wonder if that has ever happened?


CHRIST!

No he wouldn't send him off.

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How the f*ck am I supposed to know that? Pcunts!

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Re: Great save

by Royal Rother » 11 Sep 2009 16:40

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Maguire This is one of those moments where i'm totally :| and wondering whether the rest of the world is an idiot or whether I am.

Do people honestly, really think that if someone passes the ball back to me deliberately that I can stop it with my hands as long as I don't actually hold on to it? Why on earth do you see keepers slicing awkward back passes into touch every week if they could just stick a hand behind it?


Of course I understand the principle of the difficult back pass and having to clear it out. It's the very rare occasions when someone hits a very awkward backpass into the topcorner (a la Coupet). I thought you could at least tip it over. What would the ref give if he did? I suppose an indirect freekick in the box.


Indirect free kick from where the pass back was made, so in this case, well outside the area.

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Re: Great save

by papereyes » 11 Sep 2009 16:56

It's a really good save, yeah?

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Re: Great save

by Archie's penalty » 11 Sep 2009 17:01

papereyes It's a really good save, yeah?


Well all this information makes that save unbelievable.

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Re: Great save

by TheMaraudingDog » 11 Sep 2009 17:18

Royal Rother Indirect free kick from where the pass back was made, so in this case, well outside the area.


Where the keeper handles it m8.

Royal Rother, another who's clearly never played the game (at least since the rule was brought in)

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Re: Great save

by The whole year inn » 11 Sep 2009 17:42

I thought the backpass rule only applied to the goalie picking the ball up/collecting it in his arms

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