by Deathy » 14 Aug 2009 13:16
by Whore Jackie » 14 Aug 2009 23:17
by weybridgewanderer » 14 Aug 2009 23:32
Whore Jackie :lol: Kinnear still looking odds on.
by Platypuss » 15 Aug 2009 20:51
by Deathy » 15 Aug 2009 20:56
Whore Jackie :lol: Kinnear still looking odds on.
by Royal Rother » 16 Aug 2009 09:30
by Whore Jackie » 02 Oct 2009 12:34
by TFF » 03 Oct 2009 08:37
An extract from the independent arbitration panel's verdict on Kevin Keegan's constructive dismissal from Newcastle United reveals how his relationship with the then director of football Dennis Wise broke down over the signing of Ignacio González. Wise, according to the verdict, contacted Keegan to recommend González on 30 August, and pushed ahead with signing the player despite strong objections from the manager.
"Mr Wise telephoned Mr Keegan and told him that he had a great player for the club to sign, namely Ignacio González, and that he should look him up," read the statement from the arbitration panel. "Mr Keegan tried to locate him on the internet but could find no reference to him. Mr Wise told him that he had been on loan at Monaco but having checked out the details, Mr Keegan was unimpressed and told Mr Wise that he did not think the player was good enough.
"Mr Wise then told him that the player was on YouTube and that Mr Keegan could look him up there, but he found that the clips were of poor quality and provided no proper basis for signing a player to a Premier League club. Moreover, no one at the club had ever seen him play.
"However, notwithstanding that he made it clear not only to Mr Wise but also to Mr Jimenez and to Mr Ashley that he very strongly objected to the signing of Mr González [he was to be signed on loan with an option to purchase], the club proceeded with the deal and the transfer was concluded the following day, on 31 August 2008.
"The club did so, according to its witnesses who gave evidence before us, because it was in the club's commercial interests to do so. It was what the club described as a 'commercial deal' by which the club meant a deal which was in the commercial interests of the club.
"The 'commercial interests', according to the club, were that the signing of the player on loan would be a 'favour' to two influential South American agents who would look favourably on the club in the future.
"The loan deal cost the club nearly £1m in wages for a player who was not expected to play for the first team but no payment was made by the club to the agents in respect of the deal."
by Dirk Gently » 07 Oct 2009 14:56
The Newcastle United Supporters Trust is leading a bid by a group of Magpies fans to buy a share of the club.
Organisers say £20m has already been pledged and backers include a number of high-profile figures.
The announcement comes amid reports that owner Mike Ashley is set to sell to Tyneside businessman Barry Moat.
Trust spokesman Steve Hastie said: "We want to show that a supporters trust can be a truly representative supporters organisation."
He said a "proper management structure" was needed at the club to make it a success, with the "right manager", board of directors and financial structure working in unison.
Trust spokesman Steve Hastie
The aim of the group is to initially purchase a share in the club, that will allow them to have a say in the running of the club, with the potential of eventually establishing themselves as the major shareholders and purchase the club outright.......
by Deathy » 08 Oct 2009 12:53
by Dirk Gently » 08 Oct 2009 13:42
Deathy ^ wank idea. If they can one day own the club outright, where does the many mnay millions they need in repeated investment come from?
by wolsey » 08 Oct 2009 15:15
Dirk GentlyDeathy ^ wank idea. If they can one day own the club outright, where does the many mnay millions they need in repeated investment come from?
Ah, you're making the mistake of assuming that they need repeated investment.
They only need investment for three reasons :
- some of the clubs that they're competing with have "sugar daddies" who are happy to throw endless money in
- other clubs they're competing with are running up unsustainable debts, and
- clubs are unable to control the on-going spiral of players' wages.
(plus, also, to pay dividends to shareholders, but that doesn't apply with supporter-owned clubs)
Take away (or control) these above and the whole picture changes. And all it would need would be a salary cap, a couple of high-profile clubs collapsing or a decrease in TV revenues for that to happen - none of these is that unthinkable.
by Dirk Gently » 08 Oct 2009 15:34
wolseyDirk GentlyDeathy ^ wank idea. If they can one day own the club outright, where does the many mnay millions they need in repeated investment come from?
Ah, you're making the mistake of assuming that they need repeated investment.
They only need investment for three reasons :
- some of the clubs that they're competing with have "sugar daddies" who are happy to throw endless money in
- other clubs they're competing with are running up unsustainable debts, and
- clubs are unable to control the on-going spiral of players' wages.
(plus, also, to pay dividends to shareholders, but that doesn't apply with supporter-owned clubs)
Take away (or control) these above and the whole picture changes. And all it would need would be a salary cap, a couple of high-profile clubs collapsing or a decrease in TV revenues for that to happen - none of these is that unthinkable.
You are beginning to sound like SJM. Waiting for the Apocalypse - do you think it is iminent?
by wolsey » 08 Oct 2009 15:44
by Dirk Gently » 08 Oct 2009 15:52
wolsey Sorry Dirk, can't cope with 3 quote rule, but....
What about the vested interests? Surely the Euro elite faced with these restrictions will just take their ball and start a new game - invitees only.
How will Eufa, Fifa cope with not being in charge of the Franchise? - What about ole Rupe?
by Thaumagurist* » 08 Oct 2009 16:16
Dirk Gently why do you think all the Big 4 reps at this weeks Leaders in Football conference were banging on that "debt is a good thing and a natural thing"
by Dirk Gently » 08 Oct 2009 16:21
Thaumagurist*Dirk Gently why do you think all the Big 4 reps at this weeks Leaders in Football conference were banging on that "debt is a good thing and a natural thing"
Sounds interesting, is there an article where they are quoted as saying this anywhere on the net? That quote would make a good topic in AE.
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