Fall on your sword

[Man Friday]

“It’s very frustrating as a coach and a manager watching, what is letting us down is the shots on target," added Rodgers.

“We have to become more efficient, the most efficient teams control the game with the ball and we just need to have a more ruthless streak in our game.”

Make your mind up you clueless prat. What's the problem? Is it losing the ball when we're in possession allowing the other team to break against us and score or is it the lack of shots resulting in us not scoring in open play? You're feckin hopeless aren't you? Get out of my club pronto.

[winchester_royal]

Ideal is loving this, sadly though I'm struggling to disagree with what he is saying. Rodgers talks a good game, but when it comes down to results and performances he is not producing. He has alienated the majority of our youngsters, and is intead playing average players like Kebe and Howard in their place. We're not even playing the good football he promised us, instead we now resort to hoofing it long and trying to feed off the scraps. I still believe that he could turn it round, but for the first time I think I'd probably be relieved if he resigned on Monday.

[Ian Royal]

I honestly think the best central midfied combination we could put out there for Rodgers' system is Karacan, Siggurdsson & Davies. Yet Rodgers has binned two of them after both showed promise, creativity and drive.

[Royalee]

I honestly think the best central midfied combination we could put out there for Rodgers' system is Karacan, Siggurdsson & Davies. Yet Rodgers has binned two of them after both showed promise, creativity and drive.

That's the alarming thing - I agree.

[Ian Royal]

I honestly think the best central midfied combination we could put out there for Rodgers' system is Karacan, Siggurdsson & Davies. Yet Rodgers has binned two of them after both showed promise, creativity and drive.

That's the alarming thing - I agree.

That's because it's not Coppell, Kebe, Harper, or Cummings related.

[rotherwick_royal]

The only way we'll really know how much of this is down to SJM and how much BR is when BR leaves. My guess is the current team will improve under some-one else, but not much.

[Terminal Boardom]

Of the starting 11 yesterday, how many are Premier League class? How many would walk into a top 6 Championship side? I think that says it all. You can shove your world class models, total football and diamonds where the sun doesn't shine.

[Man Friday]

Tell me, who was the manager of the team we last stuffed and did we appoint him later as our manager? You couldn't make it up.

[weybridgewanderer]

got to hand it to royalee for posting on here and saying what some of the rest oof us had said for a few weeks now. if royalee thinks its bad, its bad!

a few weeks ago we beat barnsley, today the are 4 points ahead of us, so that is a swing of at least 7 points

anyone want to say that changing your manager is not the answer just needs to look at what has happened there.

[Royalee]

I honestly think the best central midfied combination we could put out there for Rodgers' system is Karacan, Siggurdsson & Davies. Yet Rodgers has binned two of them after both showed promise, creativity and drive.

That's the alarming thing - I agree.

That's because it's not Coppell, Kebe, Harper, or Cummings related.

Coppell failed last season and this bad run started with him at the helm - that's not to say I blame him for recent weeks, but we certainly weren't much better under his more recent leadership. Kebe and Cummings are useless I'm afraid - all WBA's play came down that side yesterday just as it did against Boro - perhaps if we'd had someone capable of more than 1 game in 6 on that wing last season, Doyle might have had some service like he's now getting at Wolves. As for Harper, take a look at Sheffield United's dramatic drop in form since he went there.

[Terminal Boardom]

Coppell failed last season and this bad run started with him at the helm - that's not to say I blame him for recent weeks, but we certainly weren't much better under his more recent leadership. Kebe and Cummings are useless I'm afraid - all WBA's play came down that side yesterday just as it did against Boro - perhaps if we'd had someone capable of more than 1 game in 6 on that wing last season, Doyle might have had some service like he's now getting at Wolves. As for Harper, take a look at Sheffield United's dramatic drop in form since he went there.

I am not going to argue about this but Boro's goals came from a corner and a Lita break from the middle of the pitch.

What is more worrying is that the weakness of the right hand side is going unchecked. No-one is taking responsibility. The idiots on the side of the pitch are clueless and the players are doing just as little on the pitch. This is where we lack leadership.

Does anyone think that we would still lack leadership if the likes of Murty, Harper and Rosenior were still here?

[Sir Rodger Doyle]

BULL SHIT!
peteroyal, you call that nail on head, I call it BULLSHIT!

It is easy to be taken in by someone who spins so much selfpromoting crap, imagine the interview, Hammond sitting there politely as the shy man he is, then enters the king of spin, the tenerife timeshare salesman proceeds to big up himself in the most massive way, even Mohammed Ali and Superstar Billy Graham would have been ashamed to spout such shit, and poor Hammond is in total awe of the greatness which has entered the room.
Quite simply we were gypped, Hammond was sold a fairytale story by the big watch man, and he bought the 2 weeks of timeshare in Tenerife.
You can't really fault Hammond, sure he got it wrong, but it is easy to see how you can be taken in by the bullshitmeister Rodgers, just ask Royalee and Winchester Royal they have been in awe of this man for months now. I don't blame them.
I say: forgive them, for they know not what they do.

Right then.
You are sadly mistaken if you believe that Hammond has any influence over any desicions made at the club. He is not the Director of football in any form or function. All key desicions will be made by the Board and then implemented by Hammond.

They've been brainwashed, bamboozeled, they are/were in a state of temporary insanity, induced by the incredible ammount of BULLSHIT SPIN served up by the big watch man.

What did you expect him say when he joined us.
"I'm really sorry everyone, but due to the superb way the club is run we are having to sell all of our best players. We will then have to endure a long, and often painful rebuilding process that may take three to four years to put the club back into a position where it can challenge for promotion".

But then we have to ask ourselves, who is really at fault here? Of course it is Brendan Rodgers and his team of trained monkeys, namely Lampard and Austin, and that stupid big bumper book of tactics that they only use when they want to doodle or play tic-tac-toe.
The big watch man bought the wasters Howard, Rasiak and Cummings. And he spent millions on Mills, only to never play him.
He spent MILLIONS in the transfer market. And bought DUDS. THAT IS HIS FAULT.

When he first joined the club I expect he had several transfer targets. The key one being one Tommy Smith. The embarassing way we lost out on this transfer had nothing to do with the Manager and everything to do with the board. They failed to meet the value stated by Watford as acceptable for the player, and already offered by a rival club. They then made further unacceptable offers until it was too late and the player had an offer from a Premier club. All of the players signed before the end of the transfer window were signed almost in panic. The key element in their signings seems to have been their comparative cheapness. When Mills signed I think it was mentioned that he was just comming back from an injury and would take some time to get anything like match fitness.

He picks the team. Whats left of them.
He picks the tactics.
It is his job to motivate the players, yet they are seemingly not motivated enough.

QUITE SIMPLY THE MAN IS A CLOWN, A JOKE, AN AMATEUR.

SACK THE CLOWN, NOWWWW

And then what?
Get another Manager in?
Even Wenger, Ferguson and Benitez couldn't make the players we have left suddenly better overnight.

You sir are SJM, deflecting and directing blame to suit your PR needs.

AICMFP

[Terminal Boardom]

To be fair SRD, Ideal has been saying this all season long. He has seen all this from afar! He has had enough ridicule but he has been fully vindicated in his refusal to accept the emperor's new clothes that many of us chose to see and blindly accept.

[gazzer, loyal royal]

I said it at the start and I'll say it again. I also said it to a prominent member of RFC board that it was a very weak decision form the club bringing Rodgers in.


He had 6 months as a manager and had to transform a club, something an experienced manager should have been given the task of, not someone who only had 20 games experience

But he's been given money to spend and has spent it very poorly. He bought in Mills as our main summer signing and then got O'Dea in on loan. what does that say to Mills?

Cummins isn't a footballer, and even though i like Howard, he isn't good enough to be playing in behind a lone striker.

McAnuff floats in and out of games, and Rasiak wasn't even getting in the Saints team in league one yet is our main outlet.

Rodgers also says we are capable of getting into the play-offs. The guy is trying to run before he can walk

I hate to say it but the guy is inept tactically. It's all well and good having that stupid dossier, but he can't fall back on it in the 90 minutes and generally doens't have a clue

and one last thing, everyone else is getting a chance except Marek, give him a game FFS, the guys played in a European championship, and can do no worse than some of the heeps of shit we see turn in week in week out

[Southbank Old Boy]

But a new manager won't rate half of Brendan's purchases, so JM will have to fork out again in January to get some better players in. I doubt he'll do it with a smile on his face, if he does it at all!

He's going to have to do that anyway. And we have the players to do this. Just not the manager.

We dont have the players though, we have very little quality and its been a massive rebuild of the squad

Rodgers transfer dealings have been disappointing yes, and ulitmately its his squad and he know what he was coming in to when he took the job, but we dont have the players to be play off contenders, we have the players to be in and around the lower mid table, and any squad in that kind of position is going to flirt with relegation at times

[Sir Rodger Doyle]

To be fair SRD, Ideal has been saying this all season long. He has seen all this from afar! He has had enough ridicule but he has been fully vindicated in his refusal to accept the emperor's new clothes that many of us chose to see and blindly accept.

I understand the frustration of many on here. I just feel that with what we have been left with after the "superb running of the club" we should give the Manager more time, and certainly not blame him for the position we are in. If he was managing the squad we had at the start of last season I would feel differently.

[Para Handy]

I like him and I think he'll turn it around.

[Terminal Boardom]

To be fair SRD, Ideal has been saying this all season long. He has seen all this from afar! He has had enough ridicule but he has been fully vindicated in his refusal to accept the emperor's new clothes that many of us chose to see and blindly accept.

I understand the frustration of many on here. I just feel that with what we have been left with after the "superb running of the club" we should give the Manager more time, and certainly not blame him for the position we are in. If he was managing the squad we had at the start of last season I would feel differently.

The frustrating thing Rodge is that we can all see what the problem is. Unfortunately, the one person who is paid to sort out the problem is sat on his fat arse or stood moping in the technical area. Rhetoric Man is not doing what he is paid to do. He is not putting right what is wrong on the pitch. Now why is that? Why can't Big Watch Tank Top Man make the necessary changes? The answer is because he is incapable of making the big decision and then acting on it. He is a coward. He is out of his depth. He lacks the knowldge, skill or ability. He is inept. All he knows is talk.

[Ian Royal]

That's the alarming thing - I agree.

That's because it's not Coppell, Kebe, Harper, or Cummings related.

Coppell failed last season and this bad run started with him at the helm - that's not to say I blame him for recent weeks, but we certainly weren't much better under his more recent leadership. Kebe and Cummings are useless I'm afraid - all WBA's play came down that side yesterday just as it did against Boro - perhaps if we'd had someone capable of more than 1 game in 6 on that wing last season, Doyle might have had some service like he's now getting at Wolves. As for Harper, take a look at Sheffield United's dramatic drop in form since he went there.

1.27 points / game vs 0.83 points / game. Thats significantly worse now.

[Terminal Boardom]

How do the points per game work out after we stuffed Brum 3-1?