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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by rhroyal » 21 Oct 2009 10:18

Dorset-Knob The thing I find most disturbing is BR going from, "this a great club and we will be challenging for promotion and europe, world class etc etc" type quotes.

To "this is a massive task" and "people don't understand" and various quotes about the job by others, that it is a "poisoned chalice" What utter bullshit"

A marvellous set up, good ground, fanbase, academy, recent success, large squad, decent players with experience etc.

Admittedly cautious and limited spending and some frailties still doesn't sound like the most difficult situation in football.

We get BR, we are pleased, we hope for the best, he fails, he now whinges about how bad it all is and in the meantime Ian Holloway quietly goes about his business of winning football games as do many other less flamboyant managers.

We made a mistake, time for change and to move on, it's your call SJM, "piss or get off the pot"

RODGERS OUT!
Agreed. However hard the task is here, it's certainly not as hard as the tasks at the likes of Scunthorpe, Blackpool, Watford and Doncaster. We should also be in a position to compete with Palace, Leicester, Bristol City, Swansea, Sheff Wed, Derby, Coventry and to be honest the majority of the division apart from 4 or 5 teams.

We're not the big fish down here any more - but we should be doing better.

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Super Kevin Bremner! » 21 Oct 2009 10:19

Royal Lady The difference being that Coppell was able to source cheap but quality players - Rodgers doesn't have that ability


Oh, your measure is the 10 weeks or so he had in the transfer window.

Got ya.

By the way Schards, I think you'll find that the two runs I'm referring to would be seen as a regression rather than a progression.

(edit: not actually sure regression's the word I'm after but you get my drift)

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Royal Lady » 21 Oct 2009 10:27

He was already managing a team though SKB, surely he's always on the look out for young, upcoming players - like Coppell was? He hadn't just walked into management and had ten weeks to suddenly find the type of player he wanted.

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by Super Kevin Bremner! » 21 Oct 2009 10:30

Royal Lady He was already managing a team though SKB, surely he's always on the look out for young, upcoming players - like Coppell was? He hadn't just walked into management and had ten weeks to suddenly find the type of player he wanted.


10 weeks to find the players that would fit with what was needed at Reading as opposed to finding players to fit what was happening at Watford?

Not being but that's a pretty obvious difference.

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Alan Partridge » 21 Oct 2009 10:34

Not normally one for a big knee jerk managerial firing but Rodgers really hasn't got a clue. No consistency in the selection, no idea what system to play nevermind the players. I doubt one person on here could name the team and shape that he plays against Leicester.

If Rodgers had stuck to his original game plan, tinkered with the side a bit trying to find an answer then fair enough. But he is a rabbit caught in headlights at the minute. He hasn't got a clue what to do with this mess. Totally utterly out of his depth and for the good of the club has to go.


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by Super Kevin Bremner! » 21 Oct 2009 10:37

Ideal It is very funny though, how all the other teams seem to be able to find the players they need.
For example Holloway at Blackpool. Got a player on loan within a week. Guy scores in his first match.
Isnt that just puzzling? Perhaps it means Rodgers just isn't very good?


I guess every player who scores on their debut is bound for greatness.....

Didn't Colin Gordon do the same?

Anyway Ideal, your mind was made up after 4 games so I'm not sure you're really in anyone's league when it comes to opinions on this subject.

4 games...

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Focher » 21 Oct 2009 10:40

metalmicky ROGERS OUT JOHN OUT NICKY HAMMOND OUT NIGEL HOWE OUT. PS JOHN WHAT ABOUT THE 27 M
FOR THE CATERING RIGHT TO THE GROUND AND HOTEL ? FROM THE START THIS SEASON BEEN ONE BIG COCK UP. AND TAKE SIDE KICK WITH YOU ROGERS.


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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by weybridgewanderer » 21 Oct 2009 10:51

There are a load of problems

OK what he inherited was a difficult decision but

1/ he took inexperienced players and tried to get them to play like Barcelona when they couldn't

2/ he has bought really badly

3/ he still has no idea what formation he wants or what the spine of his team is

4/ he appoints a young centre half as vice captain and then brings in 2 players that he plays ahead of him... WTF??

5/ the team are not fit

6/ he has lost the dressing room

Coppell had poor runs but at least you felt there was a plan, it maybe didn;t always work.

This is just terrible, we have played god knows how many players, god knows how many formations, the players don't have a clue what they are meant to be doing.

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by Focher » 21 Oct 2009 10:54

Although im in the Rodgers out camp, take a look back at the Pardew out chants when we lost 1-3 at home to Swindon, and the grief Coppell got when we lost 0-3 at home to Wimbledon, both managers managed promotion.

There is a chance he can turn this round, we look at other clubs who sack their managers after 13 games and say 'what the hell is football coming to, no managers get a chance nowadays', if we sack him we will be doing exactly the same.

Saying that, it is that bad and i would have no problem with him going.


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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Super_horns » 21 Oct 2009 10:59

Sure your players will be highly pleased and motivated to hear these comment...basically he doesn't rate any of his own squad...

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... _of_player

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Dorset-Knob » 21 Oct 2009 11:03

Focher Although im in the Rodgers out camp, take a look back at the Pardew out chants when we lost 1-3 at home to Swindon, and the grief Coppell got when we lost 0-3 at home to Wimbledon, both managers managed promotion.

There is a chance he can turn this round, we look at other clubs who sack their managers after 13 games and say 'what the hell is football coming to, no managers get a chance nowadays', if we sack him we will be doing exactly the same.

Saying that, it is that bad and i would have no problem with him going.


Yo Focher, will you need any help getting that fence panel out of your arse? :shock: 8) :wink:

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Focher » 21 Oct 2009 11:05

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Focher Although im in the Rodgers out camp, take a look back at the Pardew out chants when we lost 1-3 at home to Swindon, and the grief Coppell got when we lost 0-3 at home to Wimbledon, both managers managed promotion.

There is a chance he can turn this round, we look at other clubs who sack their managers after 13 games and say 'what the hell is football coming to, no managers get a chance nowadays', if we sack him we will be doing exactly the same.

Saying that, it is that bad and i would have no problem with him going.


Yo Focher, will you need any help getting that fence panel out of your arse? :shock: 8) :wink:


I felt a bit sorry for him after reading this mornings interview on the OS :lol:

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by ROKERITE » 21 Oct 2009 11:05

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Coppell's first season in charge (think his first game was in September).

Pick a few 13 game runs at your leisure.

18 points in the last 13 games. Not spectacular.

All in all mediocre at best after he took control. Went on to be Reading's greatest ever Manager.

In 2004/5 we had a 13 game run where we only notched up 14 points. Again Reading's greatest ever Manager.

I wonder what the 'Rodgers Out' brigade were up to then?


I often quote Reading when I'm arguing that other clubs' supporters should give their Manager more time. How many Reading fans were calling for Coppell's head after the 1-2 opening day defeat to Plymouth Argyle, in the season where you were to go on to set a record points total? Patience; it's going badly but the season is only 30% over.


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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Dorset-Knob » 21 Oct 2009 11:06

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Focher Although im in the Rodgers out camp, take a look back at the Pardew out chants when we lost 1-3 at home to Swindon, and the grief Coppell got when we lost 0-3 at home to Wimbledon, both managers managed promotion.

There is a chance he can turn this round, we look at other clubs who sack their managers after 13 games and say 'what the hell is football coming to, no managers get a chance nowadays', if we sack him we will be doing exactly the same.

Saying that, it is that bad and i would have no problem with him going.


Yo Focher, will you need any help getting that fence panel out of your arse? :shock: 8) :wink:


I felt a bit sorry for him after reading this mornings interview on the OS :lol:



You are Paul Whitehouse AICMFP! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Focher » 21 Oct 2009 11:11

what does AICMFP stand for????

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Royal Lady » 21 Oct 2009 11:15

Focher what does AICMFP stand for????

Well, it's actually And I Claim My Five Pounds, but it could be And I Can Manipulate Failing Prostates

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Focher » 21 Oct 2009 11:17

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Focher what does AICMFP stand for????

Well, it's actually And I Claim My Five Pounds, but it could be And I Can Manipulate Failing Prostates


Very good old lady, obviously your brain has decided to start working today

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by facaldaqui » 21 Oct 2009 11:19

“I wanted to give people chances, and there's no doubt I thought we would have more than ten points from 12 games. But, I’ve given players an opportunity.”

This worries me: it's not the school team. You don't pick players because you want to give them a chance, you pick them because you think they are the best. If you don't know who's best, that's a problem. Coppell didn't give people chances; he'd keep certain players in the reserves for long spells, even when fans were baying for them to have a chance--Matejovsky and Bikey spring to mind, not to mention most of the youngsters. Mind you, Rodgers hasn't exactly given Matejovsky much of a chance.

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Dorset-Knob » 21 Oct 2009 11:21

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Focher what does AICMFP stand for????

Well, it's actually And I Claim My Five Pounds, but it could be And I Can Manipulate Failing Prostates



That's a foul lie! I cannot and would not manipulate a prostate, you would have to do that via someones dirt-box and I'm not sticking anything up one of those!!!

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Re: RODGERS OUT. END OF

by Royal Lady » 21 Oct 2009 11:22

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Focher what does AICMFP stand for????

Well, it's actually And I Claim My Five Pounds, but it could be And I Can Manipulate Failing Prostates


Very good old lady, obviously your brain has decided to start working today
STOP calling me old lady. :cry:

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