You don't know what you're doing?

notloyalenuffroyal · by **notloyalenuffroyal** » 27 Oct 2009 10:21

I don't get to many games - I livea bit away and have tiny children so last night was my first under the new regime.

I use Hobnob as a keep-up-with-the-crowd and was expecting a horror show last night! What I found was a team with no strikers!

So - imagine my surprise at substitution time when a few brainless numpties stand up and sing "You don't know what you're doing!"

Church - had had buckets of chances - done really well - but missed the lot!! He'll get there, but it was time for him to come off - Long deserved a go!

Sigurdson - a good first half, but had lost his way - Kebe deserved a run and gave us a spark on the right. To be fair to Sigurdson, Macanuff had no luck on the left either once he had switched.

So - what did Rodgers do wrong? Seemed perfectly reasonble changes - it did add something different and although we didn't score, if he had changed nothing the numpties would have been on his back!

Having read the Team board I was up for a mass protest - a get Rodgers out campaign - the abuse etc - "Get your taxi out" etc.... - what I ended up doing was standing and applauding a good show, with a lot of entertainment and just a spot of bad luck!

Good luck Brendan - just make sure we beat Ipswich or the numpties will win (a draw at Coventry would be handy too!)

(.)Boobies(.) · by **(.)Boobies(.)** » 27 Oct 2009 10:24

notloyalenuffroyal I don't get to many games...

Church - had had buckets of chances - done really well - but missed the lot!! He'll get there, but it was time for him to come off - Long deserved a go!

Do you even realise just how bad Shane Long is?

brendywendy · by **brendywendy** » 27 Oct 2009 10:24

aaahhhh, so nice to get the view of someone not terminally jaded

i thought it was a decent show too

and as much as i like the sig, and hatre rasiak, i thought they were decent changes, which actually gave us more attacking verve in the last twenty mins

just unfortunate long was shit, and no one could be arsed to get into the box for kebes fizzers

bigmike · by **bigmike** » 27 Oct 2009 10:27

The only change that could have been made was to take on Shane Long tho no matter how bad you think he is

Focher · by **Focher** » 27 Oct 2009 10:28

a fair assesment.

When Kebe and Long were preparing to come on, me and 2 mates immediately said it gotta be for Church and Sigurdsson. Church had a good game but was fading, as was Sigurdsson. Both Kebe and Long are good impact subs and it was the obvious change to make.

brendywendy · by **brendywendy** » 27 Oct 2009 10:28

bigmike The only change that could have been made was to take on Shane Long tho no matter how bad you think he is

indeed

new striker please!!

Ferris · by **Ferris** » 27 Oct 2009 10:35

We're like a broken bicycle at the moment, we just need to fix it.

Or something...

Alan Partridge · by **Alan Partridge** » 27 Oct 2009 10:42

People were just after a stick to beat Rodgers with, he's lost a lot of the fans already and is one really bad result (like QPR) from losing nearly all of them. He's almost a dead man walking unless they can string some wins together...quickly.

I didn't disagree with taking CHurch off, his finishing is the reason Reading lost the game. Absolutely dominated them first half and I counted 6 attempts of his, 1 hit the target and it was the most difficult chance of the lot. I think the frustration from some was that Rasiak remained on the field despite being pretty dump himself.

Long had to be given a go as did Kebe and someone had to make way for them. Toss up between Howard and Sigurdsson but one had to go and similar story up front.

We all know the problems, 3 goals at home all season isn't it? That's awful and our 3 main forwards at the moment all aren't very good. I would agree Church has potential but he's no where near the finished article, and he's improved already from what i saw at the start of the season but a half decent Championship striker would have won the game for Reading yesterday with his chances.

Long hasn't been good enough ever in his RFC career, this was his opportunity this season and he's gone backwards. Rasiak jury out already.

We all know what needs to happen and from the sound of it BR actually knows this to. He's got to get a forward and quick otherwise he'll be out of a job.

Royal_Belly · by **Royal_Belly** » 27 Oct 2009 10:55

I personally think the problem with Shane Long is that he's just not up for the fight...If Reading were flying high in the league I'm sure he'd be working harder to get into the team... he looks like he just doesn't care!!

I thought Simon Church has improved a lot over the season - I think it was clear throughout the whole team that if we had a bit more confidence at home then those chances would have gone in!

Forbury Lion · by **Forbury Lion** » 27 Oct 2009 11:03

notloyalenuffroyal I don't get to many games - I livea bit away and have tiny children so last night was my first under the new regime.

I've been to all home games and trust me, that was certainly the best one to date.

strap · by **strap** » 27 Oct 2009 11:06

Royal_Belly I personally think the problem with Shane Long is that he's just not up for the fight...If Reading were flying high in the league I'm sure he'd be working harder to get into the team... he looks like he just doesn't care!!

He's spent the vast majority of his RFC career in a successful side playing alongside players with a bit of talent. Now he's forced to muck in with the shower that currently purports to be RFC's "First team squad", it's fairly easy to see why he wouldn't give a toss. Don't think he'll be around at the end of the season somehow.

Royal_Belly · by **Royal_Belly** » 27 Oct 2009 11:12

strap
Royal_Belly I personally think the problem with Shane Long is that he's just not up for the fight...If Reading were flying high in the league I'm sure he'd be working harder to get into the team... he looks like he just doesn't care!!

He's spent the vast majority of his RFC career in a successful side playing alongside players with a bit of talent. Now he's forced to muck in with the shower that currently purports to be RFC's "First team squad", it's fairly easy to see why he wouldn't give a toss. Don't think he'll be around at the end of the season somehow.

Surely he should be stepping it up then now the players who were picked ahead of him have now gone... he's the one who kept bleeting on last season saying he wants to start every game and hates being theimpact sub... he's done nothing to show me that he deserves to be ahead of any of the other strikers (which is worrying!)

notloyalenuffroyal · by **notloyalenuffroyal** » 27 Oct 2009 11:14

I am certainly not saying Long played well and therefore Rodgers is a god! I thought Long was poor when he came on - but it was still the change that needed to be made - just a shame Long couldn't live up to it.

Not Rodgers fault!

strap · by **strap** » 27 Oct 2009 11:17

Forbury Lion
notloyalenuffroyal I don't get to many games - I livea bit away and have tiny children so last night was my first under the new regime.
I've been to all home games and trust me, that was certainly the best one to date.

That is not saying very much. I can't believe people are getting carried away with one game! Bodgers said it was an "outstanding performance" FFS! Against a not very good Leicester side, playing at home, we just about had the majority of possession. We had less shots on target than they did, played a left sided midfielder at right back, had one central "striker" who is slower than Keith Scott, and another who doesn't know how to kick a ball properly. The crowd were actually cheering a completed pass on occasion, that was how starved of anything remotely associated with success!

That team would struggle to finish mid-table in League 1, and unless darstic action is taken, tht's exactly where we're heading.

I wonder what the reaction would have been had we actually scored a goal!!! Or Heaven forbid even got a point OR WON!!!

The Bodger knows his time is up, bleating as he is now about the ned for more time.

strap · by **strap** » 27 Oct 2009 11:22

Royal_Belly
strap
Royal_Belly I personally think the problem with Shane Long is that he's just not up for the fight...If Reading were flying high in the league I'm sure he'd be working harder to get into the team... he looks like he just doesn't care!!

He's spent the vast majority of his RFC career in a successful side playing alongside players with a bit of talent. Now he's forced to muck in with the shower that currently purports to be RFC's "First team squad", it's fairly easy to see why he wouldn't give a toss. Don't think he'll be around at the end of the season somehow.

Surely he should be stepping it up then now the players who were picked ahead of him have now gone... he's the one who kept bleeting on last season saying he wants to start every game and hates being theimpact sub... he's done nothing to show me that he deserves to be ahead of any of the other strikers (which is worrying!)

Don't disagree at all.

Wycombe Royal · by **Wycombe Royal** » 27 Oct 2009 11:23

strap Against a not very good Leicester side, playing at home, we just about had the majority of possession. We had less shots on target than they did,

THis is the Leicerster team that are 3 points off top and currently in 5th place?

And so what if they had one more shot on target, that is irrelevant, as is how many chances that were created, how much possession each team had, etc.

The only stat that matters in that they scored and we didn't.

However the performance was encouraging, we created chances, we had a bit of bad luck, and put in a decent performance which was probably the best at home this season and even one of the best of the calendar year (althought he competition is poor).

Forest Gump · by **Forest Gump** » 27 Oct 2009 11:52

Let's not kid ourselves - the situation at the Club is really bad in most departments. The players left behind after the clearout by Hammond are not at Championship level and most of those brought in by Rodgers have not added to the quality.

Church needs to improve and is not ready for the role he is given. Long appears to be following the example set by Doyle and Hunt and appears not to be interested anymore. In addition his main asset - reasonable pace - appears to have gone.

I don't think the answer to the goal-crisis is within the Club. Therefore I think an inward loan is required urgently and unless the Club recognise this already then I am afraid we are definitley doomed.

brendywendy · by **brendywendy** » 27 Oct 2009 12:18

italics is the way forward

really lends a touch of gravitas to your post

Ian Royal · by **Ian Royal** » 27 Oct 2009 12:25

Didn't agree with the 11, it had no defensive qualities to balance it and Sig is not a wide player, but saying that it is still one of the best 11s he's put out and the best performance I've seen.

That gives me hope that we really were a little unlucky at QPR (nightmare timed first goal and our sending off) and that Rodgers has finally realised he needs to play 4-4-2 with width. That's the sign I needed to give me hope. I'm generally an optimist and disagree with sacking managers early, but I'd seen nothing to say we should keep Rodgers up to yesterday.

I'd still like to see Karacan back in, but that means Howard or Sig would have to make way. I'd be inclined to drop Howard as he was played in Karacan's role. Although ideally I'd still like Kebe/McAnuff on the left and Davies on the right.

That team has to be kept in its entirety for at least two more games, to give it a chance to work out the creases.

Hoop Blah · by **Hoop Blah** » 27 Oct 2009 12:51

It was one of our better performances, but then we played quite well against Cardiff and Sheff U at home and still didn't win. I missed the opening game of the season, but I seem to remember many thinking we were unlucky not to win.

That's 3 home games (plus Forest) where, on the balance of play, we've probably been the better side. Unfortunately balance of play counts for very little if you can't get the ball in the back of the net. We have to sort out our options upfront pretty quickly!

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