LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by Negative_Jeff » 29 Oct 2009 11:01

The blame lies with one man who has presided over us throughout two and a half years of decline. More suited to employment in a kindergarten, he is now inviting the ridicule of visiting supporters as witnessed last monday. A total embarassment and how his antics can be seen to be beneficial even by RFC is beyond me.
I refer of course to the PA announcer, and I know this might be difficult given his peculiar gait as he struts around the pitch, but I know exactly where I would shove that microphone.

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by Dorset-Knob » 29 Oct 2009 11:02

Apart from the merits of your opinion and the reasonable debate isn't this retro blame thing a bit like blaming SSC's father for marrying SSC's mother and having a family? interestingly speculative, but pointless??? :|

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by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 29 Oct 2009 11:16

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Royal Lady But Madejski didn't like it when we were in the Prem - he doesn't like the "obscene wages".


Well we had 4 players on £30k plus a week when we signed Kits and Little back....


It's also the only time we've made money.

The outgoings might have been stupidly high, but the revenue's were even greater. As much as Madejski likes to play on the "obscene wages" etc etc to appease the fans when we might not be spending as much as others, I bet he enjoyed the bottom line a lot more than the previous 15 years!


JM would say one years profit doesn't make up for 15 years of loss.

I dunno, one thing for sure if he has been a bit creative in the accounting, we will never ever find out....

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by Harpers So Solid Crew » 29 Oct 2009 11:21

Had SC left after relegation the clear out would not have happened last summer, JM still had a slight Prem mentality, and may well have taken on a better known manager at the time, probably on a 3 year deal, then had he failed to take us up last season the clear out would have started.

What is a shame is that the highly paid stars didn't put enough into their game to get us up last season.

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by Geekins » 29 Oct 2009 11:27

runrunrunrungilksey The blame on the clubs current high profile status must lay firmly in the hands of the “fans” who protested in a parking space designed to persuade Steve Coppell to stay in his job following our relegation from the Premier League. Without this protest and even with the pleading of Sir Madskint , it was highly probable that he would have walked away from the club, insisting on the fact that he had “taken the club as far as he could” however Coppell was persuaded to stay, not by the chairman or board of directors, but by the “almost” hundreds and hundreds of fans.

They must have been so pleased with themselves; they made some pro Coppell banners, turned a piece of concrete into a shrine, chanted his name for a couple of hours and even made it onto the local radio. However, I believe very strongly, it was those fateful couple of hours that have been the real reason as to why we are where we are!

It would have been better for both club and manager to part company then rather than a season later, leaving the club and in particular the “faithful Reading fans” with broken dreams of no promotion and then a host of top named players leaving the club due to ambitions moving in different directions and Sir Madskints strict policy on wage caps within the club, after all a chairman who wants to sell a business should be interested in having zero debt in the books regardless of the fans feelings.

If the chairman and manager had parted company at the point of the clubs relegation, it would have sparked a new interest in the club with a host of managers, tried and tested ones, banging on Sir Madskint door. With RFC recently releasing their financial details, it was clear that they were prepared to keep their star players, Doyle, Hunt, Bikey & eventually Kitson to name a few to have one last shot at getting back to the big time. With Coppell deciding to stay the players even brought on to the idea that Reading would go straight back up! It is at this point the final nail in the coffin was firmly banged in!

The players needed freshening up with new idea’s and new beliefs coming in on the pitch and around the training ground and I’m afraid to say, keeping Coppell at the club didn’t spark any new enthusiasm, nor did it provoke any reaction for the clubs “seasoned” premier league stars. If anything, it brought them a guaranteed starting place in Coppell’s plans knowing that the failure of promotion would give them an exit from the club come what May.

If Coppell had decided to go and the players had decided that without Coppell they would go too, it would have left the club with a new manager (probably one that was capable and with promotion experience, perhaps someone like Alan Curbishley), with the funds for transfers and new players looking to prove themselves at a club with one main aim in the season - promotion at all costs!

Doyle, Hunt & co didn’t live up to their previous billing in the league and towards the end of the campaign, perhaps like the manager, had already decided that this was going to be their last season at the club. I mean why would they want to fight for promotion when things got tough in the league, I’ll tell you why – the club had already given them a golden ticket out of the championship by offering them an out if promotion failed!

If you ask me it was because the manager was already in the USA watching his son play golf, he was already on the continent scouting coaching routines for his next job in football.

Fans of the parking space protest you have a lot to answer for!

:lol:


Waste of a post.


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by DOYLERSAROYALER » 29 Oct 2009 14:19

Royal Lady But Madejski didn't like it when we were in the Prem - he doesn't like the "obscene wages".


Madejski doesnt like anything once the novelty of it has worn off - the fact that he has stated he would sell shows that his commitment is waining and he wants to move onto something else he can name after himself - that monstrosity of a development by the station is sure to have his name in it somewhere - im not sure what Egomans drive was initially :

Given his total lack of any knowledge of football - i guess he thought it was another opportunity to make a few bucks...hes now found out that only people who are PREPARED to take a financial hit absorb themselves into club ownership and for the lucky few, they do make money

Egoman is slowly dismantling everything that was good about the Club ...maybe all those Egoman followers need to remember that in years to come!

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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by Hoop Blah » 29 Oct 2009 14:27

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Royal Lady But Madejski didn't like it when we were in the Prem - he doesn't like the "obscene wages".


Madejski doesnt like anything once the novelty of it has worn off - the fact that he has stated he would sell shows that his commitment is waining and he wants to move onto something else he can name after himself - that monstrosity of a development by the station is sure to have his name in it somewhere - im not sure what Egomans drive was initially :

Given his total lack of any knowledge of football - i guess he thought it was another opportunity to make a few bucks...hes now found out that only people who are PREPARED to take a financial hit absorb themselves into club ownership and for the lucky few, they do make money

Egoman is slowly dismantling everything that was good about the Club ...maybe all those Egoman followers need to remember that in years to come!


He's said he'd sell if anyone better than him came along since day 1.

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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by DOYLERSAROYALER » 29 Oct 2009 14:41

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Royal Lady But Madejski didn't like it when we were in the Prem - he doesn't like the "obscene wages".


Madejski doesnt like anything once the novelty of it has worn off - the fact that he has stated he would sell shows that his commitment is waining and he wants to move onto something else he can name after himself - that monstrosity of a development by the station is sure to have his name in it somewhere - im not sure what Egomans drive was initially :

Given his total lack of any knowledge of football - i guess he thought it was another opportunity to make a few bucks...hes now found out that only people who are PREPARED to take a financial hit absorb themselves into club ownership and for the lucky few, they do make money

Egoman is slowly dismantling everything that was good about the Club ...maybe all those Egoman followers need to remember that in years to come!


He's said he'd sell if anyone better than him came along since day 1.



Just shows why he lives up to his name of Egoman - Day 1 was a whole long time back and no one has yet bettered him...hmmmm...now theres a surprise

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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by Millsy » 29 Oct 2009 17:01

runrunrunrungilksey The blame on the clubs current high profile status must lay firmly in the hands of the “fans” who protested in a parking space designed to persuade Steve Coppell to stay in his job following our relegation from the Premier League. Without this protest and even with the pleading of Sir Madskint , it was highly probable that he would have walked away from the club, insisting on the fact that he had “taken the club as far as he could” however Coppell was persuaded to stay, not by the chairman or board of directors, but by the “almost” hundreds and hundreds of fans.

They must have been so pleased with themselves; they made some pro Coppell banners, turned a piece of concrete into a shrine, chanted his name for a couple of hours and even made it onto the local radio. However, I believe very strongly, it was those fateful couple of hours that have been the real reason as to why we are where we are!

It would have been better for both club and manager to part company then rather than a season later, leaving the club and in particular the “faithful Reading fans” with broken dreams of no promotion and then a host of top named players leaving the club due to ambitions moving in different directions and Sir Madskints strict policy on wage caps within the club, after all a chairman who wants to sell a business should be interested in having zero debt in the books regardless of the fans feelings.

If the chairman and manager had parted company at the point of the clubs relegation, it would have sparked a new interest in the club with a host of managers, tried and tested ones, banging on Sir Madskint door. With RFC recently releasing their financial details, it was clear that they were prepared to keep their star players, Doyle, Hunt, Bikey & eventually Kitson to name a few to have one last shot at getting back to the big time. With Coppell deciding to stay the players even brought on to the idea that Reading would go straight back up! It is at this point the final nail in the coffin was firmly banged in!

The players needed freshening up with new idea’s and new beliefs coming in on the pitch and around the training ground and I’m afraid to say, keeping Coppell at the club didn’t spark any new enthusiasm, nor did it provoke any reaction for the clubs “seasoned” premier league stars. If anything, it brought them a guaranteed starting place in Coppell’s plans knowing that the failure of promotion would give them an exit from the club come what May.

If Coppell had decided to go and the players had decided that without Coppell they would go too, it would have left the club with a new manager (probably one that was capable and with promotion experience, perhaps someone like Alan Curbishley), with the funds for transfers and new players looking to prove themselves at a club with one main aim in the season - promotion at all costs!

Doyle, Hunt & co didn’t live up to their previous billing in the league and towards the end of the campaign, perhaps like the manager, had already decided that this was going to be their last season at the club. I mean why would they want to fight for promotion when things got tough in the league, I’ll tell you why – the club had already given them a golden ticket out of the championship by offering them an out if promotion failed!

If you ask me it was because the manager was already in the USA watching his son play golf, he was already on the continent scouting coaching routines for his next job in football.

Fans of the parking space protest you have a lot to answer for!

:lol:


ALOL

I hardly ever respond negatively to a post as I never want to come across as rude, but Im sorry this has got the be the biggest load of absolute bollox ever posted on HNA and actually made me laugh.


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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by Ferris » 29 Oct 2009 17:07

2 world wars, 1 world cup
runrunrunrungilksey The blame on the clubs current high profile status must lay firmly in the hands of the “fans” who protested in a parking space designed to persuade Steve Coppell to stay in his job following our relegation from the Premier League. Without this protest and even with the pleading of Sir Madskint , it was highly probable that he would have walked away from the club, insisting on the fact that he had “taken the club as far as he could” however Coppell was persuaded to stay, not by the chairman or board of directors, but by the “almost” hundreds and hundreds of fans.

They must have been so pleased with themselves; they made some pro Coppell banners, turned a piece of concrete into a shrine, chanted his name for a couple of hours and even made it onto the local radio. However, I believe very strongly, it was those fateful couple of hours that have been the real reason as to why we are where we are!

It would have been better for both club and manager to part company then rather than a season later, leaving the club and in particular the “faithful Reading fans” with broken dreams of no promotion and then a host of top named players leaving the club due to ambitions moving in different directions and Sir Madskints strict policy on wage caps within the club, after all a chairman who wants to sell a business should be interested in having zero debt in the books regardless of the fans feelings.

If the chairman and manager had parted company at the point of the clubs relegation, it would have sparked a new interest in the club with a host of managers, tried and tested ones, banging on Sir Madskint door. With RFC recently releasing their financial details, it was clear that they were prepared to keep their star players, Doyle, Hunt, Bikey & eventually Kitson to name a few to have one last shot at getting back to the big time. With Coppell deciding to stay the players even brought on to the idea that Reading would go straight back up! It is at this point the final nail in the coffin was firmly banged in!

The players needed freshening up with new idea’s and new beliefs coming in on the pitch and around the training ground and I’m afraid to say, keeping Coppell at the club didn’t spark any new enthusiasm, nor did it provoke any reaction for the clubs “seasoned” premier league stars. If anything, it brought them a guaranteed starting place in Coppell’s plans knowing that the failure of promotion would give them an exit from the club come what May.

If Coppell had decided to go and the players had decided that without Coppell they would go too, it would have left the club with a new manager (probably one that was capable and with promotion experience, perhaps someone like Alan Curbishley), with the funds for transfers and new players looking to prove themselves at a club with one main aim in the season - promotion at all costs!

Doyle, Hunt & co didn’t live up to their previous billing in the league and towards the end of the campaign, perhaps like the manager, had already decided that this was going to be their last season at the club. I mean why would they want to fight for promotion when things got tough in the league, I’ll tell you why – the club had already given them a golden ticket out of the championship by offering them an out if promotion failed!

If you ask me it was because the manager was already in the USA watching his son play golf, he was already on the continent scouting coaching routines for his next job in football.

Fans of the parking space protest you have a lot to answer for!

:lol:


ALOL

I hardly ever respond negatively to a post as I never want to come across as rude, but Im sorry this has got the be the biggest load of absolute bollox ever posted on HNA and actually made me laugh.


Perhaps that was the intention and that's why he put the :lol: at the end?

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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by runrunrunrungilksey » 29 Oct 2009 18:06

2 world wars, 1 world cup
runrunrunrungilksey The blame on the clubs current high profile status must lay firmly in the hands of the “fans” who protested in a parking space designed to persuade Steve Coppell to stay in his job following our relegation from the Premier League. Without this protest and even with the pleading of Sir Madskint , it was highly probable that he would have walked away from the club, insisting on the fact that he had “taken the club as far as he could” however Coppell was persuaded to stay, not by the chairman or board of directors, but by the “almost” hundreds and hundreds of fans.

They must have been so pleased with themselves; they made some pro Coppell banners, turned a piece of concrete into a shrine, chanted his name for a couple of hours and even made it onto the local radio. However, I believe very strongly, it was those fateful couple of hours that have been the real reason as to why we are where we are!

It would have been better for both club and manager to part company then rather than a season later, leaving the club and in particular the “faithful Reading fans” with broken dreams of no promotion and then a host of top named players leaving the club due to ambitions moving in different directions and Sir Madskints strict policy on wage caps within the club, after all a chairman who wants to sell a business should be interested in having zero debt in the books regardless of the fans feelings.

If the chairman and manager had parted company at the point of the clubs relegation, it would have sparked a new interest in the club with a host of managers, tried and tested ones, banging on Sir Madskint door. With RFC recently releasing their financial details, it was clear that they were prepared to keep their star players, Doyle, Hunt, Bikey & eventually Kitson to name a few to have one last shot at getting back to the big time. With Coppell deciding to stay the players even brought on to the idea that Reading would go straight back up! It is at this point the final nail in the coffin was firmly banged in!

The players needed freshening up with new idea’s and new beliefs coming in on the pitch and around the training ground and I’m afraid to say, keeping Coppell at the club didn’t spark any new enthusiasm, nor did it provoke any reaction for the clubs “seasoned” premier league stars. If anything, it brought them a guaranteed starting place in Coppell’s plans knowing that the failure of promotion would give them an exit from the club come what May.

If Coppell had decided to go and the players had decided that without Coppell they would go too, it would have left the club with a new manager (probably one that was capable and with promotion experience, perhaps someone like Alan Curbishley), with the funds for transfers and new players looking to prove themselves at a club with one main aim in the season - promotion at all costs!

Doyle, Hunt & co didn’t live up to their previous billing in the league and towards the end of the campaign, perhaps like the manager, had already decided that this was going to be their last season at the club. I mean why would they want to fight for promotion when things got tough in the league, I’ll tell you why – the club had already given them a golden ticket out of the championship by offering them an out if promotion failed!

If you ask me it was because the manager was already in the USA watching his son play golf, he was already on the continent scouting coaching routines for his next job in football.

Fans of the parking space protest you have a lot to answer for!

:lol:


ALOL

I hardly ever respond negatively to a post as I never want to come across as rude, but Im sorry this has got the be the biggest load of absolute bollox ever posted on HNA and actually made me laugh.


You may actually be a bigger fool than me!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Might give you a hint????

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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by Royal Lady » 29 Oct 2009 19:20

Oh you ARE a cheeky monkey gilksey! You had some people going there and no mistake. Mind you, I don't remember seeing YOU at the car park space. :| :wink:

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by Harpers So Solid Crew » 29 Oct 2009 19:27

One poster called runrun gilksey was att eh car park do, with his lady. Tho there may now be two run runs, i have lost track.


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by runrunrunrungilksey » 29 Oct 2009 21:39

Royal Lady Oh you ARE a cheeky monkey gilksey! You had some people going there and no mistake. Mind you, I don't remember seeing YOU at the car park space. :| :wink:

No you are correct, I wasn't there I was working away at the time but felt safe in the knowledge that you guys could seal the deal without the need of me being there :)

A job done well BTW!!!! 8)

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by Victor Meldrew » 29 Oct 2009 21:46

Negative_Jeff The blame lies with one man who has presided over us throughout two and a half years of decline. More suited to employment in a kindergarten, he is now inviting the ridicule of visiting supporters as witnessed last monday. A total embarassment and how his antics can be seen to be beneficial even by RFC is beyond me.
I refer of course to the PA announcer, and I know this might be difficult given his peculiar gait as he struts around the pitch, but I know exactly where I would shove that microphone.


Agreed-we have all "backed the boyz and made some noize" and look where it has got us.
Time for booing right from the off starting with the Ipswich game where both sets of fans can boo the managers and players of both sides,a real booathon. :wink:

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by BanffshireRoyal » 29 Oct 2009 22:20

And there's his awful carcophonous music. Bring back the tuneful brass bands of my childhood. Even the annual visit of the Dagenham Girl Pipers didn't put me off spending nearly 50 years (so far) of my adulthood and dotage in Scotland.

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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by Millsy » 30 Oct 2009 01:23

runrunrunrungilksey
2 world wars, 1 world cup
runrunrunrungilksey The blame on the clubs current high profile status must lay firmly in the hands of the “fans” who protested in a parking space designed to persuade Steve Coppell to stay in his job following our relegation from the Premier League. Without this protest and even with the pleading of Sir Madskint , it was highly probable that he would have walked away from the club, insisting on the fact that he had “taken the club as far as he could” however Coppell was persuaded to stay, not by the chairman or board of directors, but by the “almost” hundreds and hundreds of fans.

They must have been so pleased with themselves; they made some pro Coppell banners, turned a piece of concrete into a shrine, chanted his name for a couple of hours and even made it onto the local radio. However, I believe very strongly, it was those fateful couple of hours that have been the real reason as to why we are where we are!

It would have been better for both club and manager to part company then rather than a season later, leaving the club and in particular the “faithful Reading fans” with broken dreams of no promotion and then a host of top named players leaving the club due to ambitions moving in different directions and Sir Madskints strict policy on wage caps within the club, after all a chairman who wants to sell a business should be interested in having zero debt in the books regardless of the fans feelings.

If the chairman and manager had parted company at the point of the clubs relegation, it would have sparked a new interest in the club with a host of managers, tried and tested ones, banging on Sir Madskint door. With RFC recently releasing their financial details, it was clear that they were prepared to keep their star players, Doyle, Hunt, Bikey & eventually Kitson to name a few to have one last shot at getting back to the big time. With Coppell deciding to stay the players even brought on to the idea that Reading would go straight back up! It is at this point the final nail in the coffin was firmly banged in!

The players needed freshening up with new idea’s and new beliefs coming in on the pitch and around the training ground and I’m afraid to say, keeping Coppell at the club didn’t spark any new enthusiasm, nor did it provoke any reaction for the clubs “seasoned” premier league stars. If anything, it brought them a guaranteed starting place in Coppell’s plans knowing that the failure of promotion would give them an exit from the club come what May.

If Coppell had decided to go and the players had decided that without Coppell they would go too, it would have left the club with a new manager (probably one that was capable and with promotion experience, perhaps someone like Alan Curbishley), with the funds for transfers and new players looking to prove themselves at a club with one main aim in the season - promotion at all costs!

Doyle, Hunt & co didn’t live up to their previous billing in the league and towards the end of the campaign, perhaps like the manager, had already decided that this was going to be their last season at the club. I mean why would they want to fight for promotion when things got tough in the league, I’ll tell you why – the club had already given them a golden ticket out of the championship by offering them an out if promotion failed!

If you ask me it was because the manager was already in the USA watching his son play golf, he was already on the continent scouting coaching routines for his next job in football.

Fans of the parking space protest you have a lot to answer for!

:lol:


ALOL

I hardly ever respond negatively to a post as I never want to come across as rude, but Im sorry this has got the be the biggest load of absolute bollox ever posted on HNA and actually made me laugh.


You may actually be a bigger fool than me!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Might give you a hint????


LOL in that case I'm the numpty *takes a bow* :lol:

I'm now guessing it's meant to be blatantly sarcastic but to be fair I still can't make head or tail of most of it enough to tell what your point is. I'm probably too tired!

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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by Arch » 30 Oct 2009 03:57

CAPITALIZED THREADS DEMANDING THAT X GETS THE BLAME (where x = the same person you've been blaming on here for years regardless of performance).

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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by rhroyal » 30 Oct 2009 05:56

This fishing thread could have kept going so much longer. A great effort, but cut prematurely short?

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Re: LOOKING FOR BLAME, LOOK NO FURTHER!

by Einstein agogo » 30 Oct 2009 06:50

Royal Lady OMG! I can't believe you're blaming US!

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I blame America too.. stupid fat , burger eatin', bible bashing, morons

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