Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Thaumagurist* » 09 Dec 2009 12:13

That was an awful game and I'm extremely disappointed about the manner we conceded the goals. We didn't defend them very well. Having said that, I think Palace had a game plan to continually foul us to disrupt our game. How many times have we seen them do body blocks, last minute tackle to take out the man rather than the ball, high elbows, holding the forward down, looking around then jumping into our player to prevent him from getting up and various other fouls.

The two late goals at the end of the half, I was baffled as to how we managed to let them have the space and time to do them. How did Federici not anticipate the shot after Bertrand lost the ball for the second goal?

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by The whole year inn » 09 Dec 2009 12:16

Thaumagurist* How many times have we seen them do body blocks,


A warnock side?

Rodgers would have done his homework on this.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by No Fixed Abode » 09 Dec 2009 12:21

I was surprised there was over 16,000. Stadium looked empty when I saw the goals this morning.

Moses looks good and destined for better things.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by winchester_royal » 09 Dec 2009 12:30

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winchester_royal Even so we should have won...

Goalkeeper aside, what on earth makes you say that?


All 4 of their goals could/should have been prevented. We let them get on top, and their dirty, cynical, warnock-esque football made it difficult for us to get back into the game.
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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Thaumagurist* » 09 Dec 2009 12:36

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winchester_royal Even so we should have won...

Goalkeeper aside, what on earth makes you say that?


All 4 of their goals could/should have been prevented. We let them get on top, and they're dirty, cynical, warnock-esque football made it difficult for us to get back into the game.


Indeed, they scarcely deserved the win. We should have had a penalty for the handball in the first half.


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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Stranded » 09 Dec 2009 12:39

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winchester_royal Even so we should have won...

Goalkeeper aside, what on earth makes you say that?


All 4 of their goals could/should have been prevented. We let them get on top, and they're dirty, cynical, warnock-esque football made it difficult for us to get back into the game.


So how does that translate to we should have won - both of out goals could/should have been prevented too after all?

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by brendywendy » 09 Dec 2009 12:40

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handbags_harris Goalkeeper aside, what on earth makes you say that?


All 4 of their goals could/should have been prevented. We let them get on top, and they're dirty, cynical, warnock-esque football made it difficult for us to get back into the game.


Indeed, they scarcely deserved the win. We should have had a penalty for the handball in the first half.


they just out-experienced us

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Royalee » 09 Dec 2009 12:49

No, we out-experienced ourselves, resulting in a total lack of mobility - we fielded our most 'experienced' team of the season as we did at QPR.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by brendywendy » 09 Dec 2009 12:51

yet managed to still look like little boys, playing against experienced pros
we are inexperienced together, as a a team, and terminally wet

im putting this down to our one in three blip- and hope that we get it right again on saturday

and to think if we continue that up and down form, we could actually still make th eplayoffs- this league is shite


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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Royalee » 09 Dec 2009 12:53

Yet we weren't playing against experienced pros - Moses was man of the match and he's 18 years old.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by winchester_royal » 09 Dec 2009 12:53

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So how does that translate to we should have won - both of out goals could/should have been prevented too after all?


Are you really going to get this pedantic?

As crap as last night was, we were (IMHO) the better team. As soon as Moses goes in January Palace are royally buggered.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Wycombe Royal » 09 Dec 2009 12:56

Royalee Yet we weren't playing against experienced pros - Moses was man of the match and he's 18 years old.

He's 19 in 3 days and has made over 60 appearances for Palace. Not exactly inexperienced.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by brendywendy » 09 Dec 2009 12:57

Royalee Yet we weren't playing against experienced pros - Moses was man of the match and he's 18 years old.


so we are just shit then?

outmanaged by colin oxf*rd?
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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Royalee » 09 Dec 2009 12:58

Yeah, that must make him much more experienced than Ivar, Cisse and Gunnarsson.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Wycombe Royal » 09 Dec 2009 12:59

Royalee Yeah, that must make him much more experienced than Ivar, Cisse and Gunnarsson.

Did I say it did?

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Royalee » 09 Dec 2009 12:59

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Royalee Yet we weren't playing against experienced pros - Moses was man of the match and he's 18 years old.


so we are just shit then?


No, the quartet of shit consists of Ingimarsson, Cisse, Gunnarsson and Kebe. Remove those four plus Federici if he's been practising with oranges and we win comfortably.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Royalee » 09 Dec 2009 13:00

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Royalee Yeah, that must make him much more experienced than Ivar, Cisse and Gunnarsson.

Did I say it did?


You implied that one season made him experienced, which it doesn't.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Wycombe Royal » 09 Dec 2009 13:02

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Royalee Yeah, that must make him much more experienced than Ivar, Cisse and Gunnarsson.

Did I say it did?


You implied that one season made him experienced, which it doesn't.

So at what point do you call a player experienced? I would say that being in and around a teams first team for 2 years and making over 60 appearances is enough to call him "experienced".

Don't confuse age with experience.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Royalee » 09 Dec 2009 13:07

When he has more than a hundred league starts behind him for a start.

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Re: Back from the Game - Crystal Palace

by Tinrib » 09 Dec 2009 13:08

A few observations from last night.

Poor team selection & tactics. - 4-5-1 at home against another mediocre team, when the 1 can't hold a ball up is laughable. The fact that Colin had Clint Hill playing in front of the CB pairing and effectivley marking Rasiak out of the game, meant that the tactics/formation shouldve been changed very early on. As others have said Cisse/ Gunnar pairing at home is a joke.

Rasiak is only good if you deliver a ball onto his head in the 6 yard box - the rest of the time he's pony.

IIRC Moses ripped us to shreds last year at Selhurst - nothing new there. Tabb was outclassed all night by a kid.

Distinct lack of passing. No passsion. No commitment. No spark.

I like Rogers. He's a nice guy, and no doubt has the best interests of the club close to his heart, but with the playing squad hes been given + the injuries to key players ( Hunt , Armstrong, Howard) hes facing an up hill battle.

Man for man last night we shouldve won that game. Bravo to Colin for getting the best out of a limited squad.

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