by ZacNaloen » 09 Dec 2009 14:53
by papereyes » 09 Dec 2009 14:54
by Stranded » 09 Dec 2009 14:58
ZacNaloen Doing what is necessary to prevent administration != Panic.
by papereyes » 09 Dec 2009 15:00
StrandedZacNaloen Doing what is necessary to prevent administration != Panic.
But if they'd done the pruning over the last two summers rather that the mass exodus of this summer it would have made the transition easier and we'd have been in a stronger position now - we may not have made the play-offs last year but we wouldn't be quite in is a bad a playing position as we are.
by ZacNaloen » 09 Dec 2009 15:02
StrandedZacNaloen Doing what is necessary to prevent administration != Panic.
But if they'd done the pruning over the last two summers rather that the mass exodus of this summer it would have made the transition easier and we'd have been in a stronger position now - we may not have made the play-offs last year but we wouldn't be quite in is a bad a playing position as we are.
by Terminal Boardom » 09 Dec 2009 15:03
strap Look, I have no problem with a Club working within its means, absolutely the corect thing to do, especially in these dificult times, HOWEVER, the main reason for many of our whinges is the rhetoric and bullshit that is spouted from Egoman downwards!
This club hasn't a cat in hells chance of returning to the PL in the next 10 years, never mind this season, or next! With the ridiculous signings Bodger has made, we will not even be challenging the play-off spots!!
Yet we are forever lambasted with crap about how we're making a sustained challenge to return to the PL, we're a top 6 team, on our day we can top this division blah blah blah blah. It's all utter nonsense.
We're patently NOT any of those! Why can't the club actually be HONEST for a change and admit we're on our uppers, and actually this season will be considered a success if we merely stay up. Next season will be a success if we climb x places, and so on. Manage expectation, don't glibly come out with what you think the fams want to hear! We KNOW this team is shit, christ, we see it week in week out! Stop treating us like idiots, (push season tickets sales for all you're worth, then sell off the 1st team - wow, who thought up THAT marketing ploy! Next season's ST sales will plummet like a stone).
by Stranded » 09 Dec 2009 15:05
papereyesStrandedZacNaloen Doing what is necessary to prevent administration != Panic.
But if they'd done the pruning over the last two summers rather that the mass exodus of this summer it would have made the transition easier and we'd have been in a stronger position now - we may not have made the play-offs last year but we wouldn't be quite in is a bad a playing position as we are.
Wait
Are we agreeing
/sits down and mops brow
by Terminal Boardom » 09 Dec 2009 15:09
ZacNaloenStrandedZacNaloen Doing what is necessary to prevent administration != Panic.
But if they'd done the pruning over the last two summers rather that the mass exodus of this summer it would have made the transition easier and we'd have been in a stronger position now - we may not have made the play-offs last year but we wouldn't be quite in is a bad a playing position as we are.
I do agree with you, not doing that was Coppells decision as it was sold to us, but ultimately what happened this summer was necessary to stave of a much bigger disastor for the club than just getting relegated this year.
by ZacNaloen » 09 Dec 2009 15:44
by Hoop Blah » 09 Dec 2009 15:45
papereyes But there's a bit of me that had they cut a bit more last year and eased the kids through then, then we could be better placed this year.
And yes, there is expectation management in there.
Gambling the house, the keys, the wife and the ginger step child on promotion ... no, what's brick by brick about that?
by Dirk Gently » 09 Dec 2009 15:56
Hoop Blahpapereyes But there's a bit of me that had they cut a bit more last year and eased the kids through then, then we could be better placed this year.
And yes, there is expectation management in there.
Gambling the house, the keys, the wife and the ginger step child on promotion ... no, what's brick by brick about that?
This is exactly what I said last year and why we shouldn't have kept Coppell on as he was only staying out of a misplaced sense of duty when it was obvious he didn't really want to be here.
If we'd have had the balls to appoint a new manager last year and let him keep a few of last years squad but without going all out like we did, we'd have been in a healthier position now AND probably wouldn't have capitulated quite as badly last year once players like Hunt knew they were off regardless.
Serously, just what are the implications if the football club was to go into administration? How would SJM benefit from that?
by papereyes » 09 Dec 2009 16:05
But it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, of course - if we'd "cut the cloth" last years hobnobbers would have been screaming for blood at lack of investment and lack of ambition, but having gambled too much last year so that there's now no option other than to cut the cloth, people are screaming for blood at lack of investment and lack of ambition.
by Vision » 09 Dec 2009 16:09
papereyesBut it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, of course - if we'd "cut the cloth" last years hobnobbers would have been screaming for blood at lack of investment and lack of ambition, but having gambled too much last year so that there's now no option other than to cut the cloth, people are screaming for blood at lack of investment and lack of ambition.
I think the right amount of, well, honesty and expectation management may have satisfied a more than a few people.
by papereyes » 09 Dec 2009 16:15
The "must cut our cloth accordingly" cliche is as much used by Madejski as the "proves our Premier League ambition" one is.
by Stranded » 09 Dec 2009 16:22
IdealDirk Gently people are screaming for blood at lack of investment and lack of ambition.
That is rewriting the truth to fit your arguments, I find instead I am comfortable with the level of spending, what I am NOT comfortable with is the way the manager has spent the money available to him, and the way the manager picks the team, as well as the tactics he selects.
I do not at all have a problem with the spending, or the sale of players, the problem here is the manager and his inability to make the most of the resources that are available to him.
I happen to think there are many who think the same as me on this subject, and are not just "screaming for money", but are in fact painfully aware that the manager has not made the most of the resources available.
I think the fact that the manager signed a right back for half a million pounds, and then proceeds to play a left-footed player ouyt of position instead speaks volumes of his abilities in the transfer market.
by Terminal Boardom » 09 Dec 2009 16:25
ZacNaloen Sorry, what is your argument?
Is it that starting next season, or this season, with a points deduction on top of having to sell our best players to cover the debt that was the reason for that points reduction... is better than selling our players not having the disadvantage of points reduction and if we get relegated starting a season with no enforced disadvantages and being in a safer financial position?
I'm not following the reasoning really.
by ZacNaloen » 09 Dec 2009 16:33
by FiNeRaIn » 09 Dec 2009 17:10
by Alan Partridge » 09 Dec 2009 17:51
papereyesfloyd__streeteandrew1957 I have no recollection of "sneering".
I do.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=72395&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20
Bottom of page 2, sunshine. Better luck next year, indeed.
Sorry, but that's worth quoting
22nd March 2008I have not posted for a while as I usually get loads of abuse for being far too positive but thought I would update this article as it has turned out to be quite accurate so far.
I am sure Alan P, Victor and Floyd amongst others must be really drowning their sorrows tonight as it looks ever more likely that Reading will be in the PL again next season!
Bad luck chaps - maybe your wishes will come true next year.
6th May 2008If I am wrong and we go down I will freely admit that I was complacent and that I know a lot less about football than I thought
by andrew1957 » 09 Dec 2009 18:17
Alan Partridgefloyd__streeteandrew1957 I have no recollection of "sneering".
I do.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=72395&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20
Bottom of page 2, sunshine. Better luck next year, indeed.
Sorry, but that's worth quoting
22nd March 2008I have not posted for a while as I usually get loads of abuse for being far too positive but thought I would update this article as it has turned out to be quite accurate so far.
I am sure Alan P, Victor and Floyd amongst others must be really drowning their sorrows tonight as it looks ever more likely that Reading will be in the PL again next season!
Bad luck chaps - maybe your wishes will come true next year.
6th May 2008If I am wrong and we go down I will freely admit that I was complacent and that I know a lot less about football than I thought
LOL don't even remember that, not that I actually care what anyone else thinks, perfectly capable of making my own mind up from what's on offer. Just like then, as it is now for Reading FC, it isn't a lot.
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