Is this the worst Liverpool squad

[readingbedding]

Indeed, Gerrard's misdemeanours in the box has gained Liverpool a controversial penalty or two in the past, sulking about when a penalty is turned down does make people bitter and a little sad.

[TBM]

I wonder how different yesterday's game would have been if the media hadn't been going on about Gerrard being a diver all week. Webb would surely then have given the stonewall penalty wouldn't he?

He knocked the ball past Gallas and was falling before he even reached him - he made contact only cos Gerrard ran into him

[1960]

I wonder how different yesterday's game would have been if the media hadn't been going on about Gerrard being a diver all week. Webb would surely then have given the stonewall penalty wouldn't he?

He knocked the ball past Gallas and was falling before he even reached him - he made contact only cos Gerrard ran into him

Agreed. Gerrard saw that the ball had gone with a couple of legs sprawled out in front of him, so delberately fell into them. Gallas made no contact with Gerrard during the tackle. Nailed on it was not.

[Victor Meldrew]

I wonder how different yesterday's game would have been if the media hadn't been going on about Gerrard being a diver all week. Webb would surely then have given the stonewall penalty wouldn't he?

He knocked the ball past Gallas and was falling before he even reached him - he made contact only cos Gerrard ran into him

Agreed. Gerrard saw that the ball had gone with a couple of legs sprawled out in front of him, so delberately fell into them. Gallas made no contact with Gerrard during the tackle. Nailed on it was not.

That's interesting because all the neutral pundits on the radio today (including Graham Poll but I'm not sure about his credibility)called it as a stonewall penalty.

[readingbedding]

Same people who said that Gerrard dived against Sheff Utd.
Win some, lose some.

[Four Of Clubs]

That's interesting because all the neutral pundits on the radio today (including Graham Poll but I'm not sure about his credibility)called it as a stonewall penalty.

...sorry - think I'm mis-reading that - when it comes to the almighty, whiter than white and squeakey clean Stevie G. there is no such thing as 'neutral pundit' - and half or more of them on TV & Radio are often ex-Reds anyway!

Must confess to a secret delight whenever Phil Thompson is the summariser on
Sk(h)y(pe) and Liverpool let in late goals - much like those classic YouTube clips of him vs Barnsley in the Cup - I was rolling around the floor as the Fiorentina game drew to a close last week - his reactions to the injury-time sickener were Priceless!

I agree (though admit I am probably never objective about anything Scouser) with the views on here that it was never a 'stonewall/ironed on' etc etc pen. nor was the feeble 'dive' by Torres a few mins later on the edge of the box.

Similarly that guff the Ginger Whinger Durham came up with on TalkSh!te last week re Gerrard and the dive vs Blackburn - that he was totally innocent of wrongdoing "cos he didn't appeal to the Ref"

- if he does that (sorry!) WHENEVER he does that at Anfield, he doesn't need to appeal cos he's got 40k one-eyed Scallies howling at the ref on his behalf!

... and little mention of that appalling studs up lunge by 'baby-faced do-no-wrong charmer' Torres down in the corner flag after the @rse player (Traore?) had fairly but firmly wrestled him off the ball.
Put money on that happening down the other end with a Scouser on the end of it = minimum yellow card.

Oh and just for the record I hate the Gooners too!

[TBM]

... and little mention of that appalling studs up lunge by 'baby-faced do-no-wrong charmer' Torres down in the corner flag after the @rse player (Traore?) had fairly but firmly wrestled him off the ball. Put money on that happening down the other end with a Scouser on the end of it = minimum yellow card.

Arshavin's booking was stupid, the defender kicked the ball he was running in - didn't even lift his foot up and as the liverpool player was coming down he fell into Arshavin and a yellow card was produced

[Arch]

... and little mention of that appalling studs up lunge by 'baby-faced do-no-wrong charmer' Torres down in the corner flag after the @rse player (Traore?) had fairly but firmly wrestled him off the ball. Put money on that happening down the other end with a Scouser on the end of it = minimum yellow card.

Arshavin's booking was stupid, the defender kicked the ball he was running in - didn't even lift his foot up and as the liverpool player was coming down he fell into Arshavin and a yellow card was produced

It was a foul, he'd been warned twice shortly before. Yellow was for persistent foul play.

[Victor Meldrew]

That's interesting because all the neutral pundits on the radio today (including Graham Poll but I'm not sure about his credibility)called it as a stonewall penalty.

...sorry - think I'm mis-reading that - when it comes to the almighty, whiter than white and squeakey clean Stevie G. there is no such thing as 'neutral pundit' - and half or more of them on TV & Radio are often ex-Reds anyway!

Must confess to a secret delight whenever Phil Thompson is the summariser on
Sk(h)y(pe) and Liverpool let in late goals - much like those classic YouTube clips of him vs Barnsley in the Cup - I was rolling around the floor as the Fiorentina game drew to a close last week - his reactions to the injury-time sickener were Priceless!

I agree (though admit I am probably never objective about anything Scouser) with the views on here that it was never a 'stonewall/ironed on' etc etc pen. nor was the feeble 'dive' by Torres a few mins later on the edge of the box.

Similarly that guff the Ginger Whinger Durham came up with on TalkSh!te last week re Gerrard and the dive vs Blackburn - that he was totally innocent of wrongdoing "cos he didn't appeal to the Ref"

- if he does that (sorry!) WHENEVER he does that at Anfield, he doesn't need to appeal cos he's got 40k one-eyed Scallies howling at the ref on his behalf!

... and little mention of that appalling studs up lunge by 'baby-faced do-no-wrong charmer' Torres down in the corner flag after the @rse player (Traore?) had fairly but firmly wrestled him off the ball.
Put money on that happening down the other end with a Scouser on the end of it = minimum yellow card.

Oh and just for the record I hate the Gooners too!

Do you feel the same about all scousers,i.e do you include Everton?
Just for any future reference what team do you tie your mast to?
Which divers do you turn a blind eye to?
Man Utd-Rooney and Owen?
Chelsea-Lampard,2 Coles and Drogba?
Spurs-Keane and Defoe?

[Four Of Clubs]

Do you feel the same about all scousers,i.e do you include Everton?
Just for any future reference what team do you tie your mast to?
Which divers do you turn a blind eye to?
Man Utd-Rooney and Owen?
Chelsea-Lampard,2 Coles and Drogba?
Spurs-Keane and Defoe?

.. not much of a fan of the blue half neither - though obviously being less successful for the majority of my lifetime, they dont get the same media slant one way or t'other - so at best I'm indifferent towards them. Perversely I might have a chuckle to myself should they come unstuck in Europe.

Colours squarely adhered to the Blue 'n White Hoops (not Tredder's variety ) - don't particularly like any of the Big Four nor any of the chasing group - s'pose you might stretch a point and say I dislike Chelsea the least; with maybe the Red Mancs a slight 2nd - but there aren't really any Prem teams I would even admit to being fond of - and certainly not now I've seen them all first hand against my own team.

Would quite like either of those two to win the Champs League though - merely cos I admire they way they can play when the shackles of fear/money/expectation etc are lifted - all too infrequently. Even though I'm constantly told how beautiful the @rse brand of football is - I can't bring myself to admire them nor wish them well cos they are so f%$£!ng arrogant with it - particularly Fabregas.

I don't necessarily turn a blind eye to any diving as such - not a great fan of it anywhere. But it's the sheer hypocrisy spouted around Gerrard/Torres in particular that riles me more - though obviously not being fond of Liverpool for numerous other reasons, exacerbates the issue.

Similarly the way people in and out of the media regularly bang on about the Mancs & Chelski players always surrounding and berating officials - well I've seen EXACTLY the same pressure put on Refs by Carragher, Hyppia, Gerrard, Alonso, Kuyt et al but it rarely seems to get a mention on the same scale.

... Oh and by the way you forgot to mention former experts such as Reyes, Pires and various other @rse legends - now they WERE serious serial divers.

[Ginger Ninjas]

Portsmouth 1-0 Liverpool L

Belhadj 33

More trouble for Rafa, can Reading finally lose him his job in two weeks?

[1871 Royal]

Portsmouth 1-0 Liverpool L

Belhadj 33

More trouble for Rafa, can Reading finally lose him his job in two weeks?

To be honest I think if they lose today then his job could be very very under threat. Never mind when they play us.

[Archie's penalty]

2-0 at Pompey. Gulp.

[Arch]

Agreed. I'd bet on him being gone before the cup game.

[papereyes]

Is this a football match on the 19th or 20th of December

[Archie's penalty]

Yep but it's a general question!

[Southbank Old Boy]

I reckon his time is up, will they be able to afford to get rid of him though

Will anyone decent really be interested in the job whilst the mess behind the scenes is still going on

[cmonurz]

If it's going to happen it'll be before Xmas, I can't see the board giving Rafa the funds he will no doubt demand to get a 4th place finish.

[Royal Rother]

Gerrard is attracting a surprising amount of flak from Liverpool supporters on their forum. It's quite fun reading how distraught they are.

e.g.

"Here's a wake up call for our illustrious captain - you're going to spend your summer on a beach in the Caribbean if you carry on playing like this. Pick your oxf*rd chin up off your chest, grow your oxf*rd balls back, and start playing for your oxf*rd shirt and for the poor bastards that pay your frigging wages every week. And remind the rest of the shower in the dressing room what they're supposed to do when they put on those funny shoes with the pointy bits on the soles."

[PEARCEY]

Benitez is running very short of time...