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Re: Coppell

by Archie's penalty » 04 Jan 2010 02:19

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Royalee The majority of HNA said Rodgers should stay, FACT.


Well, unfortunately for you the people that matter - the board of RFC - decided that Rodgers was an absolute unmitigated disaster and had to go. And you have to let it go now too.


Bless you Floydey.

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Re: Coppell

by Compo's Hat » 04 Jan 2010 03:46

Royalee, i'm afraid your arguement about the majority wanted Rodgers to stay doesn't hold up. At best you can say he's like Marmite as that poll is pretty much a fifty-fifty split. There wasn't many times home or away where i heard "Brendan Rodgers Barmy Army" at all!

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Re: Coppell

by Elm Park Old Boy » 04 Jan 2010 08:50

Anyway.....back to the topic - Coppell.

Great game on Saturday. Very encouraging. But having now caught up with the TV coverage, it was great to see Coppell in the studio, so full of good sense, relaxed, gracious, good-humoured and constructive. It really made me appreciate what we are missing.

I don't expect for a minute he would come back, and I don't expect he has a magic wand even if he did. But frankly, if we could get him or someone anywhere near as good as him, as our next manager, we ought to be prepared to crawl on our knees over broken glass.

Anyone who cannot see what a fantastic job he did here seriously needs to look at themselves. Comments along the lines of 'Oh sure he got us to the Premier League in style but then messed it all up' are ludicrous. For Christ's sake, he left in disappointment when we only finished 4th! If only we could hope to have that kind of mess to look forwrad ot this season!

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Re: Coppell

by Terminal Boardom » 04 Jan 2010 09:01

Royalee
Ideal Rax, basic psychology offers an explanation for this situation.
Royalee's ego will not allow him to be proven wrong. He said Rodgers was the messiah, the 2nd Jesus.
So if he were to admit Rodgers was a failure, would be the same as to admit that his judgement on Rodgers was wrong.
His ego will simply not allow this to happen.
Therefore there has to be another explanation, something which means Rodgers was not a failure, and that he himself was never wrong.

So Royalee has constructed two scenarios where he can deny being wrong.
Firstly, "Rodgers was wrongly sacked, everyone loved him".
Secondly, "Rodgers was doing great, everything was the boards fault, no fault on Rodgers part".

So, as they say on Mythbusters - "I reject your reality and substitute my own", that is exactly what Royalee is doing. Rather than coming to terms with reality, his mind is creating a neurotic protection for his ego, he is altering reality to suit his ego rather than altering his own perception of reality to suit the actual reality of things.


LOL, you really are a f*cking moron. I might actually give a toss about what you have to say and take you seriously if you actually went to games. The fact that you want Marek to go sums you up, you are a total penis.


I go to the home games and I think we should get rid of Marek. He has not done enough to justify selection on a regular basis. This game is about delivering and not always about potential. How many chances must he have to deliver the goods? I said when we had Caskey that we would win nothing. I have been saying the same about Marek since the start of last season.

Don't get me wrong, I really want Marek to be successful here but it just isn't happening. Sometimes you have to cut your losses.

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Re: Coppell

by Man Friday » 04 Jan 2010 09:11

Elm Park Old Boy Anyway.....back to the topic - Coppell.

Great game on Saturday. Very encouraging. But having now caught up with the TV coverage, it was great to see Coppell in the studio, so full of good sense, relaxed, gracious, good-humoured and constructive. It really made me appreciate what we are missing.

I don't expect for a minute he would come back, and I don't expect he has a magic wand even if he did. But frankly, if we could get him or someone anywhere near as good as him, as our next manager, we ought to be prepared to crawl on our knees over broken glass.

Anyone who cannot see what a fantastic job he did here seriously needs to look at themselves. Comments along the lines of 'Oh sure he got us to the Premier League in style but then messed it all up' are ludicrous. For Christ's sake, he left in disappointment when we only finished 4th! If only we could hope to have that kind of mess to look forwrad ot this season!

Absolutely spot on post. Couldn't agree more.


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Re: Coppell

by Wycombe Royal » 04 Jan 2010 09:20

2.8 lita injection I would certainly read the book if he tells the truth about how his hands were tied when Reading were in the epl.

Coppell says nothing in the book. He didn't write it.

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Re: Coppell

by Wimb » 04 Jan 2010 09:21

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Mooney was not given a chance. Loaned out to Norwich as he had no Championship experience. Rogers fault for loaning him out again.

Long apparently scored quite a number of goals last season while Doyle was injured.

Oster was injured and wasn't the same after the injury.

Fae had a falling out with Coppell together with Sonko as they did not want to play a reserve match. Coppell than stated that Fae would never play in a Reading shirt ever again.

Halford IMO is a great player with a good long throw. Apparently working wonders at Wolves at the moment

The rest were reserve players and IMO they could not handle first team football so were shipped out


How can Halford be doing wonders when he's been on the bench half the season and is now linked with a move back to the Blades?

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Re: Coppell

by Alan Partridge » 04 Jan 2010 09:25

What i don't understand with Halford is, Sheffield United worked out within a matter of weeks that he's too slow to play full back, but skillful enough in a Little type player to play either wide right or central midfield, where he absolutely starred for them.

So Wolves put him back at full back. :|

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Re: Coppell

by RoyalBlue » 04 Jan 2010 14:12

Barry the bird boggler New book available on Coppell (note - there are other internet book retailers):

http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=6816325

On a wing and a prayer by Stuart Roach....


There definitely are other, and much cheaper, internet book retailers.

Only £9.75 on Amazon!

Royalee Sacking a manager after less than 5 months of football and 1 transfer window after losing £12 million worth of players.

No more evidence necessary.



To be fair, it did appear that Coppell felt similar to Mick Gooding in hinting that Rodgers faced a pretty impossible task, given the way that the previous squad had been dismantled, the number of enforced changes, very limited money for signings and short space of time given.

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Re: Coppell

by crossie » 04 Jan 2010 14:37

I'd love to see him back, but I have such gr8 memories of the time he spent with us, I'd be gutted if he couldn't recreate it. For that reason, I'm oot.

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Re: Coppell

by ankeny » 04 Jan 2010 15:33

Elm Park Old Boy Anyway.....back to the topic - Coppell.

Great game on Saturday. Very encouraging. But having now caught up with the TV coverage, it was great to see Coppell in the studio, so full of good sense, relaxed, gracious, good-humoured and constructive. It really made me appreciate what we are missing.

I don't expect for a minute he would come back, and I don't expect he has a magic wand even if he did. But frankly, if we could get him or someone anywhere near as good as him, as our next manager, we ought to be prepared to crawl on our knees over broken glass.

Anyone who cannot see what a fantastic job he did here seriously needs to look at themselves. Comments along the lines of 'Oh sure he got us to the Premier League in style but then messed it all up' are ludicrous. For Christ's sake, he left in disappointment when we only finished 4th! If only we could hope to have that kind of mess to look forwrad ot this season!

Too right EPOB,despite a couple of addicts insulting each other on here the bottom line is that Coppell should be begged to return and never mind a fukin paycut,double it.Well now be lucky to finish fourth from bottom the way we are going.

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Re: Coppell

by glenroyal » 04 Jan 2010 16:40

Very interesting interview with Coppell.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 439602.stm
(Listen to the full audio - magic.)

(I appreciate that's not news ... just no-one seemed to have posted the link.)
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Re: Coppell

by Ian Royal » 04 Jan 2010 19:44

Coppell isn't right for us now. Rodgers did too much damage to our season, relegation fight isn't what I'd want Coppell for.

Now if we stay up, or to be honest if we go down (although we'd be a litle low for him then) I'd be happy to see him back with a full summer to prepare. He'd certainly help develop the younger players well.

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Re: Coppell

by PEARCEY » 04 Jan 2010 19:48

Ian Royal Coppell isn't right for us now. Rodgers did too much damage to our season, relegation fight isn't what I'd want Coppell for.

Now if we stay up, or to be honest if we go down (although we'd be a litle low for him then) I'd be happy to see him back with a full summer to prepare. He'd certainly help develop the younger players well.



Don't agree Ian. I think it would give the players, supporters and the club in general a boost if he came back now. Even if we went down why would it be in a division too low for him? He was managing Brighton before he joined us.
I'd like to see him back now.

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by Ian Royal » 04 Jan 2010 19:50

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Ian Royal Coppell isn't right for us now. Rodgers did too much damage to our season, relegation fight isn't what I'd want Coppell for.

Now if we stay up, or to be honest if we go down (although we'd be a litle low for him then) I'd be happy to see him back with a full summer to prepare. He'd certainly help develop the younger players well.



Don't agree Ian. I think it would give the players, supporters and the club in general a boost if he came back now. Even if we went down why would it be in a division too low for him? He was managing Brighton before he joined us.
I'd like to see him back now.


I'm not sure he'd go back down to a League One club that would involve a fair bit of rebuilding. Maybe I'm being pessimistic.

Coppell isn't good at turning around bad runs quickly. We've seen that many times. He's good at slowly building a team until it clicks, but up to that point it tends to be a little fragile.

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Re: Coppell

by Salford Royal » 04 Jan 2010 19:53

I love him like the father I never had.

http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1262632787127RA48

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by andrew1957 » 04 Jan 2010 19:57

Agree too early for him to come back. I am not sure it is ever really a good idea to go back anyway. In this case he is a RFC legend and if he came back and was eventually sacked for poor results it would take the gloss off his fantastic achievements. For this reason in a way I hope he never comes back.

I thought he would have taken the Brighton job when it was going - really surprised if he was not offered it. When they get the new stadium they could well be a force to be reckoned with once again and he lives in Sussex I believe.

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Re: Coppell

by seahawk10 » 04 Jan 2010 20:21

Steve Coppell's barmy army!

Make it happen!

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Re: Coppell

by Northern Git » 04 Jan 2010 20:29

With thanks to Sainsburys J12 M4 (and a handy camera phone)



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