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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 20 Jan 2010 14:19

Sig won't be here next season even if we stay up.

We'd certainly lose him CHurch and Jem if we went down.

Relegation would be a disaster, just like the last time, when people tried to say it was a good thing.

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by Wycombe Royal » 20 Jan 2010 14:21

Smoking Kills Dancing Doe Relegation would be a disaster, just like the last time, when people tried to say it was a good thing.

Didn't last time see the beginnings of the most successful period in this little club's history (once TB2 was out of the way)?

I can't see why it was a disaster. If we hadn't gone down we may never have got to the Premiership.........

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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Hoop Blah » 20 Jan 2010 14:25

I think he probably means the last time we were relegated, you know about 18 months ago!

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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Plymouth_Royal » 20 Jan 2010 14:27

Hoop Blah I think he probably means the last time we were relegated, you know about 18 months ago!


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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Wycombe Royal » 20 Jan 2010 14:32

Hoop Blah I think he probably means the last time we were relegated, you know about 18 months ago!

I was going on relegation to the third tier.........

And getting relegated wasn't the disaster (it still wasn't a good thing though), not going up last season was......


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by Hoop Blah » 20 Jan 2010 14:37

Oh come on WR, going back up is a lot harder than not getting relegated.

Getting relegated was the disaster and cost us a hell of a lot of money, not going up again at the first attempt just made it all a hell of a lot worse.

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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Wycombe Royal » 20 Jan 2010 14:47

Hoop Blah Oh come on WR, going back up is a lot harder than not getting relegated.

Getting relegated was the disaster and cost us a hell of a lot of money, not going up again at the first attempt just made it all a hell of a lot worse.

Did I ever say that going back up isn't a lot harder than not getting relegated? I don't think I did.

As I prefer watching football in the football league it is unlikely that I would view relegation as such a big disaster as others do......

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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Garrincha » 20 Jan 2010 14:48

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The whole year inn no way in a million years should this guy be sold.

Jesus :|

i totally agree.davies could have been an established player in our team by now, if we,d had more sense. what did he do wrong to get dropped in the first place? to me he was starting to look like the best replacement for sidders that we were ever likelyto get without spending a fortune.


I have watched Davies on several occasion for Wycombe this season (when RFC have played away) as my mate plays for them. From the games at Reading and more recently at Wycombe I have been very impressed with his displays. Other than a few wayward passes that have been due to complacency more than anything else he has shown a great range of passing and is always looking for an opportunity to hit the target. The only criticism is that there have been a number of instances during games where he hasn't tracked his runner but I'm sure this wouldn't be the case for Reading as he has a much freer role for Wycombe and can get away with it in L1. He is technically better than Sidwell in his touch, passing and control not to mention his shooting ability (stats showed Sidwell was woeful when it came to hitting the target) and its a shame he has missed out on gaining a huge amount of expereince in the Championship even if he wasn't to start every game and is a much better all round player than Howard which made his signing all the more puzzling and unnecessary. My mate has played with and against Howard & believes Davies is a more accomplished player. I just wonder if we may have another costly Simon Cox scenario......?

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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Terminal Boardom » 20 Jan 2010 15:07

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Hoop Blah I think he probably means the last time we were relegated, you know about 18 months ago!

I was going on relegation to the third tier.........

And getting relegated wasn't the disaster (it still wasn't a good thing though), not going up last season was......


The difference with getting relegated to the third tier in 1998 was that for the two seasons prior, we escaped relegtion by the skin of our teeth. THis time around, we find ourselves in this predicament havin made the play offs the season before. Thus, not the same.

I think it is about time for Scott Davies to step up to the mark. What have we got to lose by playing him for the rest of the season? Either play him or sell him. Simples!


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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Wycombe Royal » 20 Jan 2010 15:19

Terminal Boardom I think it is about time for Scott Davies to step up to the mark. What have we got to lose by playing him for the rest of the season? Either play him or sell him. Simples!

I actually thought he was unlucky to his place in the team earlier in the season. He is easily good enough for a place on the bench.......

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by Maguire » 20 Jan 2010 15:28

Garrincha My mate has played with and against Howard & believes Davies is a more accomplished player


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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Ian Royal » 20 Jan 2010 15:39

I like the way almost everyone is defeatest about absolutely everything and spouting speculative opinion about the future as if it is cast iron fact.

Personally I am very much enjoying watching (when I can) the likes of Church, Sig, Davies and Karacan, to a lesser extent Pearce too. I've also liked what I've seen of Robson-Kanu this season.

I certainly was looking forward to how the youngsters performed this season. Unfortunately Rodgers fecked our start up royally (boom boom) and didn't use them all that well. And yes, that is my OPINION.

Relegation, and indeed failure to be promoted could have been a positive thing in the medium - long term had we bounced back properly.

Unfortunately players let us down, Coppell failed to cope at the end of last season and Rodgers wasted an opportunity to stabilise to rebuild a promotion challenge in the next few seasons.
So yes, being relegated could definitely be a positive and allow us to build momentum and go for promotion challengers to the Prem again. If handled correctly and well.

Equally if the situation is arsed up we could end up facing relegation to the basement...

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Re: Scott Davies.....

by YateleyRoyal » 20 Jan 2010 15:52

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The whole year inn no way in a million years should this guy be sold.

Jesus :|

i totally agree.davies could have been an established player in our team by now, if we,d had more sense. what did he do wrong to get dropped in the first place? to me he was starting to look like the best replacement for sidders that we were ever likelyto get without spending a fortune.


I have watched Davies on several occasion for Wycombe this season (when RFC have played away) as my mate plays for them. From the games at Reading and more recently at Wycombe I have been very impressed with his displays. Other than a few wayward passes that have been due to complacency more than anything else he has shown a great range of passing and is always looking for an opportunity to hit the target. The only criticism is that there have been a number of instances during games where he hasn't tracked his runner but I'm sure this wouldn't be the case for Reading as he has a much freer role for Wycombe and can get away with it in L1. He is technically better than Sidwell in his touch, passing and control not to mention his shooting ability (stats showed Sidwell was woeful when it came to hitting the target) and its a shame he has missed out on gaining a huge amount of expereince in the Championship even if he wasn't to start every game and is a much better all round player than Howard which made his signing all the more puzzling and unnecessary. My mate has played with and against Howard & believes Davies is a more accomplished player. I just wonder if we may have another costly Simon Cox scenario......?


Another Simon Cox scenario? He'll wow everyone in League One, be linked with the world and his wife, and end up getting splinters in his arse on the bench of one of our rivals. How terrible. Simon Cox is clearly a threat to RFC and I'm sure Davies would be too.... :roll:


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Re: Scott Davies.....

by facaldaqui » 20 Jan 2010 16:05

I thought he was awesome against Forest in the opening game, but against Newcastle--which I saw on television--he seemed a marginal figure. But that was a really tough game for the whole team, who looked ominously feeble. Taken aback that he was sent out on loan.

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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Terminal Boardom » 20 Jan 2010 16:20

I rate Davies as a far better prospect than Henry Kelly or whatever his name is.

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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Ferris » 20 Jan 2010 16:28

Terminal Boardom I rate Davies as a far better prospect than Henry Kelly or whatever his name is.


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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Alan Partridge » 21 Jan 2010 09:53

Davies has got a lot of talent, natural talent and time on his side. Reading shouldn't even be contemplating letting him leave. HAve they learnt absolutely nothing down the years from Cox, Tyson even Henderson being allowed to move on?

It annoys me watching the likes of Cisse or Gunnarsson playing central midfield and keeping Davies away from the squad. He is a future star and showed enough early season to warrant better treatment than he's got. Gunnarsson, Cisse, Howard even Marek haven't done enough in the middle of the park this season and yet it's Davies who finds himself on the fringe.

Whose going to be kept next year? Gunnarsson? Nope, Marek? Nope, if we went down then you can add Cisse to that list and possibly others like Sigurdsson might want to get a transfer, allowing Davies to go now on a permanent would be a horrific move.

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Re: Scott Davies.....

by Hoop Blah » 21 Jan 2010 10:11

I don't share some of the high regard for Davies, although I do think he has good potential in a poor mans Steven Gerrard kind of way, but I'd agree I would rather see him in the squad getting the chance to prove himself here from now to the end of the season.

We've been left with a glut of average midfielders and if we could get some money for either Cisse or Gunnarsson we should take it and get the lad closer to the first team. I'd even be happy to let Matejovsky go for the same reason as we're never going to get enough from him to justify building the team around him.

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Re: Scott Davies.....

by SteveRoyal » 21 Jan 2010 10:34

I like this lad. I really do, I think he could be a fantastic player for us.

My only problem is that there's nowhere you could fit him into our squad.

You could slot him in midfield alongside Karacan, but then we'd have a midfield 4 of McAnuff, Karacan, Davies and The Sig - and whilst this may be quality on paper, the lack of experience would definitely hinder the amount of quality on show.

Then you have to think about Matejovsky, Tabb, Howard, Cisse all on the bench for the team. He could do a job next season when/if we sell Cisse and Matejovsky; but by then it might be too late.

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by Thomas L'Heureux » 21 Jan 2010 10:47

SteveRoyal I like this lad. I really do, I think he could be a fantastic player for us.

My only problem is that there's nowhere you could fit him into our squad.

You could slot him in midfield alongside Karacan, but then we'd have a midfield 4 of McAnuff, Karacan, Davies and The Sig - and whilst this may be quality on paper, the lack of experience would definitely hinder the amount of quality on show.

Then you have to think about Matejovsky, Tabb, Howard, Cisse all on the bench for the team. He could do a job next season when/if we sell Cisse and Matejovsky; but by then it might be too late.


Everyone keeps eluding to this 'lack of experience' but I can't think of many occassions this season when, taking Sigurdsson for example, he's done something I've openly questioned and thought he showed immaturity.

With the four listed above, I'd play Davies on the right, McAnuff on the left, and Siggy and Karacan through the middle. That way we'd have two decent flanks, we'd get the best out of Siggy in the middle, and we'd also have Karacan who I believe to be our best all-round central midfielder when playing 4-4-2.

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