Scott Davies.....

[Thaumagurist*]

Bear.

[Ian Royal]

Bear.

Where? Is it a grizzly or a polar?

[Thaumagurist*]

Where?

In your post.

Is it a grizzly or a polar?

It's whatever you want it to be.

[Terminal Boardom]

scores goals for fun.

Personally I think we're actually talking closer to £1m for Davies to de sold. Probably not that much, but not far off.

4 goals in 17 games for Wycombe? Hardly scoring goals for fun but if comparing with our current crop of players you have a valid point.

[brendywendy]

Bear.

Where?

there, on the stair

[Ian Royal]

scores goals for fun.

Personally I think we're actually talking closer to £1m for Davies to de sold. Probably not that much, but not far off.

4 goals in 17 games for Wycombe? Hardly scoring goals for fun but if comparing with our current crop of players you have a valid point.

A goal every 4.25 games. And that is only one short loan period.

I'd say the 27 career goals in 89 starts is a pretty darn good scoring rate. 1 every 3.3 games.

[Hoop Blah]

How many players go for anywhere near a £1m with that scoring record in the Conference and League 2 though Ian?

Not disagreeing that he has potential, and has a good goals per game record for a midfielder (of any sorts), but you just don't get teams paying that kind of money for players at that level, even if they are quite young.

Anything near £500k would be a top whack price for him at the moment. I don't think we should sell him though.

[Ian Royal]

How many players go for anywhere near a £1m with that scoring record in the Conference and League 2 though Ian?

Not disagreeing that he has potential, and has a good goals per game record for a midfielder (of any sorts), but you just don't get teams paying that kind of money for players at that level, even if they are quite young.

Anything near £500k would be a top whack price for him at the moment. I don't think we should sell him though.

His price tag should reflect his value to us though. And I would expect it to be a minimum of £500k at the moment. I did say £1m would be too steep but something approaching that, yet people are now telling me I think he should be valued at £1m.

I personally think we shouldn't let him go before the summer for less than about £800k. Yes it's making people pay through the nose. But I don't see the problem with that.

If we stay up then I wouldn't be too upset to see him go in the summer for £300k. But then his value to us will have diminished.

[Ian Royal]

Not that any of this matters. I was just posing an alternate interpretation of Wycombe's failed buying attempt and our not continuing his loan with them.
I don't think that it means we're trying to sell him. And the fact he hasn't gone yet is currently supporting that.

[Hoop Blah]

How are you calculating his value to us then?

He's a player who is behind Cisse, Matejovsky, Karacan, Howard, Tabb, Gunnarsson, and possibly Sigurdsson, for a starting place in the middle of the park.

[Terminal Boardom]

How are you calculating his value to us then?

He's a player who is behind Cisse, Matejovsky, Karacan, Howard, Tabb, Gunnarsson, and possibly Sigurdsson, for a starting place in the middle of the park.

FM 2010

[brendywendy]

How are you calculating his value to us then?

He's a player who is behind Cisse, Matejovsky, Karacan, Howard, Tabb, Gunnarsson, and possibly Sigurdsson, for a starting place in the middle of the park.

yes, but gunnar can be discounted cos hes old
cisse can be discounted cos hes rubbish
Tabb can be discounted cos he never plays regardless
and matejovski is being sold..............

so just kara, sig, and howard the duck.

[Sir Rodger Doyle]

I should think he represents a small piece of extra cloth.

[The whole year inn]

With the amount of money that is spent on nurturing these guys RFC should at least give them a bloody chance

[SteveRoyal]

With the amount of money that is spent on nurturing these guys RFC should at least give them a bloody chance

+1
Pre-season is not enough of a chance, JM.

[The whole year inn]

With the amount of money that is spent on nurturing these guys RFC should at least give them a bloody chance

+1
Pre-season is not enough of a chance, JM.

Even more so considering he has actually proven himself in the lower leagues - unlike Pearce, Church, RK etc who were all very ordinary in the lower divisions. They are playing in the first team

What has Davies done wrong?

[Thomas L'Heureux]

With the amount of money that is spent on nurturing these guys RFC should at least give them a bloody chance

+1
Pre-season is not enough of a chance, JM.

Considering he banged in a couple of thirty-yarders, curled in a few free-kicks (including one against Petr Cech) and set-up Robson-Kanu with a 60-yard through-ball during pre-season, I'd even say he grabbed that chance.

[Ian Royal]

How are you calculating his value to us then?

He's a player who is behind Cisse, Matejovsky, Karacan, Howard, Tabb, Gunnarsson, and possibly Sigurdsson, for a starting place in the middle of the park.

Because if we go down he would be an excellent player for us, and he is actually a better long term prospect (and in some cases currently better than already) Cisse, Matejovsky, Howard, Tabb & Gunnarsson. He gives us something none of those players do; genuine pace. He gives us something only one of those players do; a strong goal threat from midfield.

If we're going to sell a midfielder, it'll be Matejovsky, Tabb, or if anyone'll take him; Cisse (not that he's really a midfielder).

[Ian Royal]

With the amount of money that is spent on nurturing these guys RFC should at least give them a bloody chance

Sigurdsson: 19 starts
Karacan: 31 starts
Pearce: 39 starts
Church: 18 starts
Henry: 10 starts
Davies: 4 starts
Kelly: 9 starts
Robson-Kanu: 4 starts
Hamer: 2 starts

That's 136 starts from the Acadamy in the last two or three seasons. Yeah, none of them get a chance do they.

[The whole year inn]

With the amount of money that is spent on nurturing these guys RFC should at least give them a bloody chance

Sigurdsson: 19 starts
Karacan: 31 starts
Pearce: 39 starts
Church: 18 starts
Henry: 10 starts
Davies: 4 starts
Kelly: 9 starts
Robson-Kanu: 4 starts
Hamer: 2 starts

That's 136 starts from the Acadamy in the last two or three seasons. Yeah, none of them get a chance do they.

I was talking about Davies you plank

But those stats reinforce my argument - cheers

Davies excelled whilst out on loan for 2 full years, but has the same amount of starts as someone who barely made the bench at Southend