Rodgers: The 'Truth'

[LoyalRoyal22]

People talk of an improvement in that latter few weeks under BR, but the 2-4 thrashing by a mediocre Palace side who hadn't even been paid with the ludicrous dropping of our only young player to show any sustained glimpses of promise (Sigurdsson) and a 2-1 loss to a poor Derby side having completely controlled the first hour of the game suggests otherwise.

How convenient to pick out the games that we lost

If you break BR's 21 games down into three groups of seven (just for convenience as 21 is divisible by three), then you'll see that the last seven produced easily the best results and we were starting to look more settled as a team.

There's been a lot of sense written in the last few posts (PistolPete, Rodger Doyle) which I've foind quite refreshing but when i think about the BR situation I'm always left with this nagging thought that there has to be some other factor involved in all this that we don't know about.

You know you're going through a transitional period, you know you're ripping your squad to pieces, and you know you need to have patience with whoever comes in to navigate us through what will inevitably be a difficult period. So, you headhunt a young manager with strong links to the club, then sack him before he's even played every team in the division, when we're not even in the bottom three, and when you don't have anybody lined up to replace him.

Insanity.

I hope to hell we don't go down but if we do then in terms of the board it's just the chickens coming home to roost i'm afraid.

I agree. And although we didnt beat Scunthorpe, i thought that was the most settled we had look under Rodgers, had a good shape, and was creating chances left,right and centre. Poor Decision to sack him, im still bitter.

[Sir Rodger Doyle]

I don't see that it makes any difference at all that Rodgers said he wanted the player, when the player himself had decided he was going to Reading.

So you don't think for one moment that Rodgers speaking out before a bid had even been accepted in any way hindered negotiations? Ok, you're entitled to your opinion
What negotiations? Watford said they would only sell for £1.8M, an offer they had already accepted. There was no room for negotiation and it took us far too long to meet Watford's valuation. I do understand your point of view about the Smith saga. It may well have been unwise for Rodgers to fawn so openly about Smith, but I don't think it had any bearing on the failure of the signing.

I could understand the fact that results may not be good to start with. I could accept that, so long as I could see development within the club (and I could).

List me these developments. Brendan Rodgers Methodology - that methodology which has scarcely produced any home-grown players for Chelsea during his time as youth coach there. I am fascinated as to what positive spin you are trying to put on Rodgers insisting that players with limited ability like Cisse should adapt to his complex system.
We had a team that failed to gain promotion last season after a very good start. They were on a run of form that would have seen them relegated if it had carried on into this season. The club then released and or sold Murty, Bikey, Rosenoir, Hahneman, Harper, Lita, Doyle and Hunt then had Armstrong and Noel Hunt as long term injuries with Ivar still some way from match fitness. A new manager is appointed to get the club back into the Premier league, a task that to be honest I am suprised anyone would want to take on. Now I think that Rodgers went a bit overboard with the whole confidence thing, but he did have a plan. He tried to get the players to play football again, something we hadn't seen since Mark McGhee last achieved it at Reading. In many of the games we played, some of the football was great to watch and I believed that we were making progress. Rodgers was bringing young players into the team and getting them to play with confidence and ability, which is something again not seen since McGhee. I think that to be fair to Rodgers, he gave all the players in the squad a chance to prove themselves in HIS team playing in his style. If a player was found to be wanting then I am sure that they would have been replaced. It takes time to achieve this at any club.

Well done everyone, you have got what you wanted. You have all bought the crap that has been spouted by the club about Rodgers and the current position.

Give yourselves a big gold star. (or a watch if you prefer)

What crap have they spouted? "has left the club by mutual consent" "we need to reflect before appointing a new manager" "hardest decision I've had to make" "results have been poor"
Madejski grizzled that it was the hardest decision he has had to make, that results were poor. Otherwise nothing else has been mentioned since. And LOL @ thinking that the fans are somehow to blame. You are quite loopy.

I don't think the fans are to blame for anything that has happened. I just think there are too many on here that have taken pleasure from the Rodgers sacking.

[sandman]

Even more would be glad to see us relegated.

[Terminal Boardom]

I make no apology for saying that getting rid of Rodgers was the right thing to do. With hindsight, he should not have been appointed in the first place. But the club were wrong to do it without having someone credible lined up to take over first.

[Sir Rodger Doyle]

I make no apology for saying that getting rid of Rodgers was the right thing to do. With hindsight, he should not have been appointed in the first place. But the club were wrong to do it without having someone credible lined up to take over first.

That's the key point for me. If they had decided that results were not good enough and worthy of a "mutual consenting". How could they then give the job to a man who has a worse record than Rodgers had. It doesn't add up to me.

[Terminal Boardom]

I make no apology for saying that getting rid of Rodgers was the right thing to do. With hindsight, he should not have been appointed in the first place. But the club were wrong to do it without having someone credible lined up to take over first.

That's the key point for me. If they had decided that results were not good enough and worthy of a "mutual consenting". How could they then give the job to a man who has a worse record than Rodgers had. It doesn't add up to me.

But who was to know that results would not improve? There is more than meets the eye. This is one of the reasons why I am so anti SJM, Howe and Hammond. Yes SJM has done a lot for the club in the past. But that IS history. He has his memorial, all 24,200 seats worth. And just how well known would SJM be if he hadn't been Chairman of Reading FC these last 20 years or so? It cuts both ways.

[Sir Rodger Doyle]

Have listened to the Rodgers interview on BBCRB tonight and I am still left thinking about what might have been.

[Negative_Jeff]

I liked Rodgers. Made mistakes and opened his trap too much but I thought he had some good ideas. I think he made his mark if only for the development of Gylfi.
Just daft paying all that compensation for such little experience......then hanging him out to dry.

[Negative_Jeff]

oxf*rd off. The guy was useless. If we get relegated it will be because of him.

You never got past the first sentence did you?

[Compo's Hat]

Have listened to the Rodgers interview on BBCRB tonight and I am still left thinking about what might have been.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/berkshire/h ... 500663.stm

[The whole year inn]

look at he squad he was given

he was given over 3 million pound to supplement it

he oxf*rd up big time

nobody wants to employ him

[Southbank Old Boy]

nobody wants to employ him

In the same way as nobody wants Coppell

In the same way that nobody wants Megson, Curbishly, Cotteril, Jewell, Hart, Southgate, Sanchez

[Sir Rodger Doyle]

look at he squad he was given
What was left of a squad.

he was given over 3 million pound to supplement it
To replace £23 million of players out.

he oxf*rd up big time
I didn't think he got the chance to.

nobody wants to employ him

We shall see, no hurry with all the compensation we paid him.

[RoyalBlue]

look at he squad he was given

he was given over 3 million pound to supplement it

he oxf*rd up big time

nobody wants to employ him

'Look at the squad he was given'?!! That would be the squad that Madejski and his manic cloth cutters had torn to shreds, ripping all the class and quality out of it.

'Over three million pounds to supplement it' there was virtually FA left to supplement! 'Start from scratch' would be a more appropriate term.

The people who oxf*rd up big time were Madejski, Howe and Hammond - the foolish three.

[Quagmire]

look at he squad he was given

Yes let's. A squad minus 11 of the best 14/15 players from the season before which couldn't manage a home win during the final 3 months of the season.

[Terminal Boardom]

SJM screwed up? In appointing him? Without a doubt.

This is one thread that should be reviewed from time to time and plastered over SJM's car so he doesn't go for the inexperienced option again! Selling all those players for all that money DEMANDED an experienced manager to handle what was left

[shoey]

could he be more bitter, dude got alot more time than many wanted, and was shite, now we show improvements, no more bs, as said, nice guy, but speaks shite and was neva a gd manager even at reading

[Alan Partridge]

The only thing I was a bit taken back by Rodgers dismissal was the timing. The Palace game apart where Reading's goalkeeper had a nightmare, I would agree that the team had settled down a bit, and shown glimpses or signs of improvement. A bit of that interview what i find a bit naieve on Rodgers part, he says 'if I'd known I'd only get 6 months, I would have changed players earlier and maybe got some more expereinced players in'. It's ok having youngsters but they have to contribute to the team in a positive way. It's no good playing youngsters for the sake of playing youngsters. The first thing Big Mac has done, sign a proper right back. That would have helped you no end Brendan.

He persisted with a formation that didn't suit the players Reading have. We had a Chelsea style setup but we don't have a midfielder like Lampard capable of 15 league goals+, nor do we have an all round brute of a forward like Drogba capable of playing up front on his own.

I enjoyed the interview though otherwise, i decent insight to his view on things, but that's what it is, his view. There are certain other people in the mix of the whole situation with their own take on things which ended with Rodgers losing his job.

I went to QPR and it was one of the most disjointed, rudderless, passionless performances I have ever seen from a Reading side. I thought Rodgers was doomed from there. No one played for him that night. No one competed, no one wanted to be there and Reading got stuffed, it could have been 10-1.

I am still convinced Rodgers wouldn't have used the loan market particularly well and I am sure we may have had 1 or two more high profile departures. There is a time and place for complexity, change in the way we do things and that's when you are 12th with 6/7 games to go and nothing to play for. When you are struggling it's basics time and you have to have the right components in the team to be able to fight a bit more, scrap a bit more for points. McDermott has got Reading back to 4-4-2. He's getting the most out of his senior pros which Rodgers certainly never did, and on the face of it he's made a couple of signings that should be good enough in this league.

The job came far too early for Brendan, he might make a decent manager one day but I am still 100% sure that him going has benefitted the team and united the club again.

[floyd__streete]

Brendan Rodgers = yesterday's news. You'll remember him like you did Bullivant: how did he ever get the job far too big for him.

[URZZZZZZZZ]

To be fair, McDermott has the same amount of home wins in 3 games as Rodgers has in half a season's worth. Any argument about who is the best choice is irrlevant in the circumstances.