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[winchester_royal]

Back-to-back wins? What's going on!

We're are going to look sus at the back with CB who's not yet match fit. Will Mills be banned straight away? Three match - that's gonna hurt.

Thought Khiva looked decent and strong, should dbe fine against a fairly slow Plymouth front line.

[Plymouth_Royal]

Can't complain about Mills' red card. It was deliberate and not very clever either. What option did the ref really have?

You what? Looked a total accident to me, very nearly put it in his own net as well.

Have another look without the RTGs

I agree with both you. Definitely accidental because it looked like he just panicked, but his arm was out and the ball did touch it.

[Einstein agogo]

players scores

feds 8
griffin 8
mills 6
ingi 7
bertrand 7
kebe 5
mcanuff 7
gunnarsson 6
howard 8
karacan 7
long 7

.......

i think he was poor for the first 15-20 minutes(hence not an 8 or 9 )but respect due for pulling his finger out.
likewise Mills was an easy 8 until he was sent off. Kebe was his usual infuriating self

[Ian Royal]

If it's accidental there is an argument it's not even a penalty, let alone a red card.

A penalty was always the most likely outcome of course. But that was no way a red card. It's a toss up whether it was even a yellow ffs!

[Plymouth_Royal]

What was Gunnar doing at the end ?

Clear it and it is game over....

My question would be what was he doing playing towards the end. He was awful second half. Just kept giving the ball away and not making any decent tackles. Karacan was doing all the moping up and getting forward too.

[URZZZZZZZZ]

Khizanishvilli looked capable. Won't be too dissapointed with him starting Tuesday. Griffin superb again. Chuffed!

[rhroyal]

If it's accidental there is an argument it's not even a penalty, let alone a red card.

A penalty was always the most likely outcome of course. But that was no way a red card. It's a toss up whether it was even a yellow ffs!

Look at where his arm was. Accidental or not (I thought it was an accident), the ref had no choice.

[SLAMMED]

Can you lot not just enjoy us winning?

[Ian Royal]

If it's accidental there is an argument it's not even a penalty, let alone a red card.

A penalty was always the most likely outcome of course. But that was no way a red card. It's a toss up whether it was even a yellow ffs!

Look at where his arm was. Accidental or not (I thought it was an accident), the ref had no choice.

To give a penalty, probably... But how on earth is it a red card? Please explain.

Where do you expect his arm to be?

Up his arse? Stapled to his side?

[Plymouth_Royal]

If it's accidental there is an argument it's not even a penalty, let alone a red card.

A penalty was always the most likely outcome of course. But that was no way a red card. It's a toss up whether it was even a yellow ffs!

I agree a red card was harsh but even accidents should be a pen. If a guy falls over and the ball hits his arm stopping the ball going in, accidental and a pen. In Mills' case, he panicked, his arms were out the ball came off him and hit his arm. Definite pen but no way a red.

[Avon Royal]

If it's accidental there is an argument it's not even a penalty, let alone a red card.

A penalty was always the most likely outcome of course. But that was no way a red card. It's a toss up whether it was even a yellow ffs!

Look at where his arm was. Accidental or not (I thought it was an accident), the ref had no choice.

It was a definite pen. Shouldn't have been a red though. The ref didn't even see it so how he could say it was deliberate is beyond me.

[Jack Celliers]

Excellent from Federici, Long and Howard.
A bit rubbish from Mills, but that made the last 16 minutes all the more enjoyable. We will really miss him in the next game.

[Jack Celliers]

FFS the red card is for stopping a goal

If it is accidental it isn't a penalty.

[John Peel]

Back-to-back wins? What's going on!

We're are going to look sus at the back with CB who's not yet match fit. Will Mills be banned straight away? Three match - that's gonna hurt.

Three? Shirley that's for violent conduct only?

Hasn't he been sent off already this season though? Doesn't that mean more than the standard one? EDIT: Sorry my fault. I thought he had

Just looked at the incident again and I can't see how we can appeal that one.

[Franchise FC]

If it's accidental there is an argument it's not even a penalty, let alone a red card.

A penalty was always the most likely outcome of course. But that was no way a red card. It's a toss up whether it was even a yellow ffs!

If the ref gives the pen then he must believe it's deliverate - in case red was the only option.

[79Royal]

If it's accidental there is an argument it's not even a penalty, let alone a red card.

A penalty was always the most likely outcome of course. But that was no way a red card. It's a toss up whether it was even a yellow ffs!

Look at where his arm was. Accidental or not (I thought it was an accident), the ref had no choice.

To give a penalty, probably... But how on earth is it a red card? Please explain.

Where do you expect his arm to be?

Up his arse? Stapled to his side?

And to be fair to him, he's tried to get his head to it and headed it straight on to his arm. Was a bit harsh, but once the penalty was given I expected him to be sent off. Especially with that ref.

[Ian Royal]

If it's accidental there is an argument it's not even a penalty, let alone a red card.

A penalty was always the most likely outcome of course. But that was no way a red card. It's a toss up whether it was even a yellow ffs!

I agree a red card was harsh but even accidents should be a pen. If a guy falls over and the ball hits his arm stopping the ball going in, accidental and a pen. In Mills' case, he panicked, his arms were out the ball came off him and hit his arm. Definite pen but no way a red.

How come you see accidental handballs not given as fks / pens reasonably regularly then?

[knobby_1871]

do not think we will ever see such a home-based ref (must have had money on Donny) brilliant performance from a team low on confidence, me happy as a pig in sh*t

[Elliott]

Khizanishvilli looked capable. Won't be too dissapointed with him starting Tuesday. Griffin superb again. Chuffed!

That's just showing off

I also thought Zurab looked pretty solid, just hope the handball only warrents a one game ban, rather than three.

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

If it's accidental there is an argument it's not even a penalty, let alone a red card.!

it doesn't neeed to be deliberately handled to be handball.

The "deliberate" part concerns the position of the arm - i.e. was his arm in a natural position or had he deliberately positioned his arm? If your arm is out, then even if you are looking in the other direction, it's handball. If your arm is in a natural position and the ball hits it, then even it it prevents a certain goal, it's not handball.

With this one, there didn't look to be anything at all unnatural about his stance, and the ball came straight at him. There would be grounds for saying it's not handball, but he makes so much contact with the ball, dragging it round, that hardly any refs wouldn't give it.

Once given then there's no choice but to give a red card. It was a foul that denied a clear goalscoring opportunity, and therefore a red card. An intention to cheat doesn't come into it.