by SteveRoyal » 12 Feb 2010 00:32
by JoeyJoeJoeJnrShabadoo » 12 Feb 2010 01:45
by Sun Tzu » 12 Feb 2010 10:18
JoeyJoeJoeJnrShabadoo FMD there are a lot of expert penalty takers on here, why hasn't BMcD been told of your prowess?
by Hoop Blah » 12 Feb 2010 10:52
by Terminal Boardom » 12 Feb 2010 11:00
by Tony Le Mesmer » 12 Feb 2010 11:15
by Kingsley Junior » 12 Feb 2010 13:37
by rhroyal » 12 Feb 2010 14:29
by dan19 » 12 Feb 2010 14:33
Row Z Royal JUST SMASH 'EM
by Sun Tzu » 12 Feb 2010 14:39
rhroyal I'd like to think that any professional footballer, from the midfield up at least, should be able to hit the top corner from 12 yards. Just practice over and over on the training ground. It doesn't matter if the keeper can read you, stick it in the top corner and he's not getting it.
by handbags_harris » 12 Feb 2010 14:42
JRfacaldaquiRow Z Royal JUST SMASH 'EM
Preferably to one side.
I disagree.
How many penalties smashed down the middle at height have you ever seen saved? Bet you can't find more than a few.
by ScottishRoyal » 12 Feb 2010 14:57
facaldaquiSun Tzu Surely Gylfi's technique is designed to do exactly what you are wanting.
He waits for the keeper to make a move then puts it the other way. Keepers will almost always favour one direction or the other and if you can spot them shifting their weight one way it is very hard for them to then change direction.
As to who takes the pens, I think the current way of whoever fancies it is the best in the absence of any one sure fire taker.
No, Sigurdsson's method is not what I'm wanting. I prefer to see a hard shot to either side, preferably high. Sigurdsson's method depends on the goalie moving early: but if he doesn't, then the goalie can pick which way he's going to shoot, and the shot will have less momentum and decisiveness than with a fast run up. I now expect goalies to take this approach to Sigurdsson until he changes his method.
by Cookie » 12 Feb 2010 15:18
facaldaqui I am unhappy with our approach to penalties.
by facaldaqui » 12 Feb 2010 15:21
ScottishRoyalfacaldaquiSun Tzu Surely Gylfi's technique is designed to do exactly what you are wanting.
He waits for the keeper to make a move then puts it the other way. Keepers will almost always favour one direction or the other and if you can spot them shifting their weight one way it is very hard for them to then change direction.
As to who takes the pens, I think the current way of whoever fancies it is the best in the absence of any one sure fire taker.
No, Sigurdsson's method is not what I'm wanting. I prefer to see a hard shot to either side, preferably high. Sigurdsson's method depends on the goalie moving early: but if he doesn't, then the goalie can pick which way he's going to shoot, and the shot will have less momentum and decisiveness than with a fast run up. I now expect goalies to take this approach to Sigurdsson until he changes his method.
Basically if any penalty, hard or soft, it put in the corner the 'keeper needs to go a fraction early to stop it, with slower penalties it is all about the placement. If the 'keeper goes early the taker can puts it the other way. If the keeper waits then the taker can pick either corner and the keeper can't get down quick enough to stop it because he hasn't decided soon enough. And because where the ball is struck is dependant upon the actions (or inaction ) of the 'keeper himself, he can't really prepare before the event.
Sig's method always worked for Yakubu who has one of the best coversion rates you're ever likely to see.
by facaldaqui » 12 Feb 2010 15:26
Cookiefacaldaqui I am unhappy with our approach to penalties.
Relax, were doing OK, honestly.
by Sun Tzu » 12 Feb 2010 15:30
facaldaqui
The trouble is that if the goalie waits, the taker has to shoot with very little momentum, and the shot will not have as much power as from a fast run up. Goalkeepers can save goals in these circumstances, as with Cech's save from Ronaldo in the Champions' League final. The main problem for the striker, though, is the moment of indecision he suffers while choosing which way to shoot. This can result in a feeble shot, as with Sigurdsson's against Sheffield United.
by facaldaqui » 12 Feb 2010 15:37
Sun Tzu
There is no perfect way of taking a pen, players are successful using different approaches.
by handbags_harris » 12 Feb 2010 16:12
Sun Tzu Stuart Pearce blasted his shots and even if the keeper got to them they still ended up in the back of the net...
by Big Foot » 12 Feb 2010 16:40
handbags_harris Hit them hard and high. That is the only way to take a penalty. We haven't had a ruthless penalty taker since the days of Trevor Morley who was excellent at taking them.
by handbags_harris » 12 Feb 2010 16:49
Big Foothandbags_harris Hit them hard and high. That is the only way to take a penalty. We haven't had a ruthless penalty taker since the days of Trevor Morley who was excellent at taking them.
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