Scapegoat of the week!

[Ian Royal]

Ingimarsson's been shit ever since he's been back in the side if you want a scapegoat. Karacan's not been at his best recently but even when he's not having his best game he's still useful - far better than Cisse.

I guess this must be Madejski's fault?

No, it's Madejski's fault we haven't invested in a striker so that we're able to finish teams off instead of finishing games with ten men and taking two chances at scoring with half the pitch to ourselves.

Manager's pick the players we sign Lee. Not Madejski. We have 7 strikers. It's not Madejski's fault if none of them are good enough to be scoring 15-20 (or are fit).

[Royalee]

It's Madejski's fault funds weren't made available to sign a new striker rather than forcing the manager to promote youngsters like Church who should be learning their trade off the bench rather than shouldering main responsibility given the state we're in. We don't have one striker at the club capable of scoring goals week in week out.

[Royalee]

Well, we'll see @ Palace, going Royalee?

I'dve thought so.

[Ian Royal]

It's Madejski's fault funds weren't made available to sign a new striker rather than forcing the manager to promote youngsters like Church who should be learning their trade off the bench rather than shouldering main responsibility given the state we're in. We don't have one striker at the club capable of scoring goals week in week out.

We've spent £3.5m, plenty enough to buy a striker. Other strikers who are arguably better than we have are on loan elsewhere.

Nothing to do with Madejski

[Kitson12]

It's Madejski's fault funds weren't made available to sign a new striker rather than forcing the manager to promote youngsters like Church who should be learning their trade off the bench rather than shouldering main responsibility given the state we're in. We don't have one striker at the club capable of scoring goals week in week out.

Could be worse.

[Royalee]

£3.5 million? We haven't spent £3.5 million on strikers Ian, we've spent about £300k and lost Doyle, Kitson and Lita plus Noel Hunt through injury.

[Royalee]

It's Madejski's fault funds weren't made available to sign a new striker rather than forcing the manager to promote youngsters like Church who should be learning their trade off the bench rather than shouldering main responsibility given the state we're in. We don't have one striker at the club capable of scoring goals week in week out.

Could be worse.

This is the sort of mentality which has led to our decline sadly.

[Focher]

for anybody slating Karacan, look at the difference in the midfield when he went off against plymouth. it fell apart. His passing has been poor of late, but his energy and tenacity to break up the play is still excellent, and needs to be starting every game in my view. Under McDermo i think he will as well.

[Ian Royal]

£3.5 million? We haven't spent £3.5 million on strikers Ian, we've spent about £300k and lost Doyle, Kitson and Lita plus Noel Hunt through injury.

I didn't say we had. You said Madejski hadn't given us the funds. He has, they just (mostly) weren't spent on strikers. Not his choice, that's the manager's.

Of course you'd have to admit Rodgers cocked up to agree to that, so that obviously means it's someone elses fault. Interesting that Rodgers consistently played the other person you're slating on this thread whenever he could. Not sure how that can sit with you.

[Kitson12]

It's Madejski's fault funds weren't made available to sign a new striker rather than forcing the manager to promote youngsters like Church who should be learning their trade off the bench rather than shouldering main responsibility given the state we're in. We don't have one striker at the club capable of scoring goals week in week out.

Could be worse.

This is the sort of mentality which has led to our decline sadly.

At least we're not going under, so unlike people like Pompey and Palarse we have a solid future. Ours strikers just need a few goals, and maybe some good crosses into the box wouldn't go amiss. Blaming Madejski for everything isn't going to get us anywhere Royalee. If we stay up that's fantastic, we should get behind the boys to try and avoid relegation rather than blaming the 'higher powers' (when actually Rodgers was the one who signed the players that aren't firing).

[Royalee]

when actually Rodgers was the one who signed the players that aren't firing

Bertrand, McAnuff, Rasiak and Mills have all been crap then haven't they? Even Howard scored last week.

[Kitson12]

when actually Rodgers was the one who signed the players that aren't firing

Bertrand, McAnuff, Rasiak and Mills have all been crap then haven't they? Even Howard scored last week.

Sorry, Rasiak hasn't exactly been the 15-20 striker Rodgers bought him to be yet has he? Therefore not the best signing.

Edited: cheers Spizz

[AthleticoSpizz]

when actually Rodgers was the one who signed the players that aren't firing

Bertrand, McAnuff, Rasiak and Mills have all been crap then haven't they? Even Howard scored last week.

Sorry, Rasiak hasn't exactly been the 15-20 striker Rodgers bought him to be has he? Therefore not the best signing.

ahem

the season isn't finished yet by a long chalk

[Royalee]

£3.5 million? We haven't spent £3.5 million on strikers Ian, we've spent about £300k and lost Doyle, Kitson and Lita plus Noel Hunt through injury.

I didn't say we had. You said Madejski hadn't given us the funds. He has, they just (mostly) weren't spent on strikers. Not his choice, that's the manager's.

Of course you'd have to admit Rodgers cocked up to agree to that, so that obviously means it's someone elses fault. Interesting that Rodgers consistently played the other person you're slating on this thread whenever he could. Not sure how that can sit with you.

So you don't think we needed a centre back or Rasiak or McAnuff? We sold £12 million of players and saved even more on wages of released players, so no Madejski hasn't exactly splashed the cash like you pretend.

I wouldn't have played Ingimarsson and disagreed with him on that Ian and am happy to put that on record, but I believe he made more positive moves than negative and wasn't given the long term backing required.

[Ian Royal]

when actually Rodgers was the one who signed the players that aren't firing

Bertrand, McAnuff, Rasiak and Mills have all been crap then haven't they? Even Howard scored last week.

Cut Howard (superfluous midfielder) and Cummings (poor and not playing) and you have roughly an extra £800k to buy a striker who'll score goals.

Cut Rasiak as well and there's three player's wages and over a £1m to pick up a striker who COULD score 15-20.

McAnuff has been largely excellent. Bertrand has been essential. O'Dea was a waste of time. (under Rodgers) Mills was a total waste of money because he was alienated and not played.

[Royalee]

when actually Rodgers was the one who signed the players that aren't firing

Bertrand, McAnuff, Rasiak and Mills have all been crap then haven't they? Even Howard scored last week.

Sorry, Rasiak hasn't exactly been the 15-20 striker Rodgers bought him to be has he? Therefore not the best signing.

Have a look at his record for goals compared to starts - 99% of strikers would be 'not the best signings' by your rationale.

[Kitson12]

Sorry? I'm purely quoting your rationale:

We need a striker capable of getting 15-20 goals a season and have done all year yet it still hasn't been addressed.

[rabidbee]

Rasiak is a pretty profligate striker, but if we had two wingers pinging balls in from the by-line onto the penalty spot all game long, he'd score every match. Whilst we're not set up to play like that, he struggles to be involved.

[Kitson12]

Rasiak is a pretty profligate striker, but if we had two wingers pinging balls in from the by-line onto the penalty spot all game long, he'd score every match. Whilst we're not set up to play like that, he struggles to be involved.

Exactly.

[Ian Royal]

Rasiak is a pretty profligate striker, but if we had two wingers pinging balls in from the by-line onto the penalty spot all game long, he'd score every match. Whilst we're not set up to play like that, he struggles to be involved.

Which makes you wonder why Rodgers bought him, seeing as that really didn't seem like his style of play. Much more Coppell's. I think under McDermott we reverting to much closer to that type of play.

Rasiak's problem is he's largely a passenger, which can make him a luxury a struggling team can ill afford.