Back from the game - Blackpool

[sandman]

< How's that for a location.

[Compo's Hat]

I've said things about players before and if they'd heard I would expect some abuse back, in fact I'd be disappointed if they didn't because it would show that they didn't care about the club. Forget the "he's a professional so shouldn't rise to it" bull, he's a human being

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Iz7-8W9Ro

I always love the opinion which people offer in this argument 'how would you like it if someone turned up to your work and gave you abuse' asIf you work in the entertainment industry. The Reading supporters who attended today will have paid the largest part of £25 for the privilege of sitting on scaffolding and - from what I understand - witnessed their team failing to show up, so they are quite within their right to give out a bit of stick and not expect a bit of lip back from overpaid individuals, especially overpaid individuals who have barely performed in the last couple of months.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=e ... QtWVcFpvHg

[floyd__streete]

< How's that for a location.

Better

[sandman]

I can see your problem with my point of view though, talking common sense is a strange concept for the repetitive luddites who inhabit this forum.Bye

[floyd__streete]

I can see your problem with my point of view though, talking common sense is a strange concept for the repetitive luddites who inhabit this forum.

Yeah, I don't know why you bother really, sandman.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

So now shouting criticism from the stands is not allowed.

ANyways any more match reports.

[Slinky]

Opening a can of worms is so easy in the HNA world.....can't believe this issue is still rolling on. Last time I post what happened at a game.

[Barry the bird boggler]

Tired, weary and flat performance not helped by a crap pitch and so-so officials.

Guess it had to happen at some point, let's hope WBA doesn't go to extra time.

[Royal Lady]

I don't want to prolong this argument really, but I have to concur that what HH said wasn't "abuse" - he was frustrated and vented it by telling Jobi what he thought he should be doing. Most fans shout something critical of a player/players during a game - it was just on this occasion that Jobi heard him! And, like I said, Jobi responding just shows him up to have a complete lack of professionalism. His best response would have been an "I'll show 'em" attitude.

The players, as a whole, appear to have played well below their capabilities and that is unacceptable, one eye on a cup run or not. When people spend a big part of their money paying for tickets and travel, they're entitled to voice an opinion if they do not think any one player (or the team) are playing to their best abilities.

I suppose those who are bemoaning HH's comments would also prefer that the crowd don't shout "man on" etc or berate the ref when he blatently makes a mistake - after all, it's not for us to comment.

[susieroyal]

I get abuse shouted at me in my job (teaching) and I ignore it. Not difficult.

When I get criticised (as HH did to Jobi), I listen. And then ignore it

Shouting back at a fan who has criticised him, just makes Jobi look an idiot. Playing better is a far better response.

If HH had shouted some shit about his family or personal insult, you could understand a player shouting back.

[sandman]

I suppose those who are bemoaning HH's comments would also prefer that the crowd don't shout "man on" etc or berate the ref when he blatently makes a mistake - after all, it's not for us to comment.

As both suggested actions are pointless, yes. Is the ref going to say yeah your right I'm wrong penalty? Shouting man on just makes player's tense up and they invariably lose the ball by playing a rushed pass.

Lets all agree to disagree and let the people that were actually at the game comment on it.

[madreadingfan]

I suppose those who are bemoaning HH's comments would also prefer that the crowd don't shout "man on" etc or berate the ref when he blatently makes a mistake - after all, it's not for us to comment.

As both suggested actions are pointless, yes. Is the ref going to say yeah your right I'm wrong penalty? Shouting man on just makes player's tense up and they invariably lose the ball by playing a rushed pass.

Lets all agree to disagree and let the people that were actually at the game comment on it.

Are you actually a supporter or just a spectator?

[gonesy]

I get abuse shouted at me in my job (teaching) and I ignore it. Not difficult.

When I get criticised (as HH did to Jobi), I listen. And then ignore it

Shouting back at a fan who has criticised him, just makes Jobi look an idiot. Playing better is a far better response.

If HH had shouted some shit about his family or personal insult, you could understand a player shouting back.

Some sense at last! Can someone talk about the game now please?

[Rex]

No.

[Millsy]

Sound like we were awful.

Still, after 4 wins in a row I can let the lads off for havin an off-day!

BRIAN MCDERMOTT'S BARMY ARMY!

[floyd__streete]

Worth mentioning as well that MacAnuff has had fearsome stick from each set of supporters of his former clubs we have faced this season (Watford, Cardiff and Palace) so perhaps he treated the supporters at those clubs with disdain as well with the same kind of disinterested performances we have seen from him over the past couple of months. 1 goal all season from an attacking player who has started nigh on every game is a pretty woeful return too.

[Blue Biscuit]

Both sides were poor, and so was the pitch. We were scuppered when Gunnarsson went off. He was the only player prepared to stand up to Charlie Adam. Adam ran the game, and had free reign once Bryn had gone. It was no coincidence that Blackpool scored the first goal ten minutes after he left the field. I felt a bit sorry for the back four, they were given no protection by the midfielders in front of them whatsoever. Mills and Khizanishvili both played ok. Griffin was the best of the bunch. His experience enabled him to deal with Bouazza, and others, on a number of occasions. Jem, Jobi and Jimmy didn't seem interested. Kebe was back to his 'bambi on ice' performances of earlier in the season. I was sure he had the beating of the Blackpool full back for pace, but he simply didn't try. Howard seemed to mis-hit every pass, and was generally very poor. He is so frustrating, against Palace he was picking out some really good passes. Yesterday anything over ten yards was a waste of time. Thorvaldsson didn't look particularly good, but the service he got was not great. He looked slightly more comfortable when Rasiak came on and he had a partner.
The time has come to rest a few players against WBA, in preparation for our game with Sheff. Wed. In the last few games Karacan and Bertrand have looked a bit off the pace. I would like to see Tabb and Sigurdsson given a few games together. The work rate and creativity they have between them just might be what we need.

[The Quiet Man]

This game was the opposite of everything we did well at Palace - second to almost everything, no rhythm, and an inability to hold the ball up front on a pretty poor pitch. The main tactic from both sides was the hump up front, Blackpool were accurate and ran directly from midfield and Reading were humping it everywhere but at the player and didn't support from midfield at all. Lowlights of the game, watching Howard trying to play in midfield - there are donkeys on the Blackpool beach with more pace - he was at least a yard off the pace and the mystery yesterday was how he stayed on the pitch despite the fact that he couldn't get close enough to tackle any Blackpool player and constantly missed his passes and lost possession. The other lowlight was watching the ref bottle a decision, the two footed lunge on Gunnarsson was a red card. That said it would have been doubtful that Reading would have done anything about it if they had a player advantage.

Player ratings

Federici 6 no much chance with the goals, a couple of good saves but appears nailed to his own line
Bertrand 6 OK performance
Griffin 6 struggled at times but did reasonably well
Mills 7 thought he was probably the pick of our players dominant in the air
Khizanishvili 5 no better or worse than Ingi, worries me when he appears to let a ball bounce and turn his back on a player and looked at fault for the first goal
Gunnarsson 5 started slowly and didn't really get to the pace of the game before being fouled out of the game
Howard 1 utter toss from start to finish should have been subbed at half time if not earlier
Karacan 5 worked hard but his passing was awful
Mcanuff 5 just doing enough to get by at the moment only giving 70% can do a lot better but is he bothered?
Kebe 5 double teamed at every opportunity and given no space in behind Blackpool - credit Blackpool with stopping both wide men but that only highlighted the total lack of a central midfield response from us
Church 4 not his day won little against either centre half and not strong enough or given good enough service to hold the ball up and no support whatsoever from donkey Howard
Subs
Sigurdsson 4 wasted substitution should have come on after 15 mins for Howard and supported Church - lightweight and brushed off the ball too often in centre midfield
Raziak 5 worked hard and won some of the aerial challenges and has the honour of Reading's only meaningful attempt on goal should have been on for Gunnarsson in the first half
Thorvaldsson 3 looked like a guy that has very little recent match experience - rusty and lacking in touch

[floyd__streete]

Thorvaldsson 3 looked like a guy that has very little recent match experience - rusty and lacking in touch

At a time where we were crying out for an experienced, clinical finisher, the signing of this Icelandic fella who couldn't even get a regular game in the Danish league seems more and more curious.

[Victor Meldrew]

Going back to McAnuff I liked him when he was at Wimbledon but just like a lot of wingers they are so in and out.
Look at Kebe and players like Routledge,Pennant,Walcott,Bentley,Lennon,Riera,SWP and the list goes on.
Regrettably McAnuff (I'm sure he cares or rather I hope that it is just their languid ways that make him and Kebe look as though they don't care)has gone off this year ironically at the same time as the rest of the team have hit a bit of form.

As for Handbag shouting at him-good.
If it makes him more aware of looking across the line in future and be offside less then Handbag's words may have done some good.
Unfortunately most pro players detest any semblance of criticism(it sounds as though Sandman is the same) and take things personally rather than questioning whether the fan had a point-we can but hope that Jobi thinks about it and actually does something about it.