Benfica win the Portuguese league as Braga can now only pull level on points with them and they have a better goal difference of 36 over Braga with 3 games remaining.
Bursaspor top the Turkish league by a point with 4 left to play. Having never won the league their only top level achievment in the past was winning the cup 26 years ago.
European Leagues Thread 2012/2013
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soggy biscuit Roma bumped down to 2nd place as they didn't play this weekend. The title now looks like a straight run in between them & Inter.
With Roma 2 points behind Inter the fixtures look like this:
Roma V Sampdoria
Parma V Roma
Roma V Cagliari
Chievo V Roma
Lazio V Inter
Inter V Chievo
Siena V Inter
Roma are playing Samp right now, and lead 1-0 at HT
The Dutch Cup final was regrettably men against boys. As HH says, the better team won, and won far more comfortably than a 2-0 scoreline would suggest.
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It continues to irritate me that sogs has not changed the title of this thread.
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I've come to terms with it, but wouldn't mind a change.
Roma lost though, so he might be in too bad a mood to change it tonight.
Roma lost though, so he might be in too bad a mood to change it tonight.
La la la la la la
La la la la la la
Scheiße null vier.
Still stuck in my head.
prostak, if Pauli and Nürnberg are playing in the same league next season and you are back in Germany, I have the feeling I will finally meet someone from this site. With Augsburg drawing today, looking good for your guys.
La la la la la la
Scheiße null vier.
Still stuck in my head.
prostak, if Pauli and Nürnberg are playing in the same league next season and you are back in Germany, I have the feeling I will finally meet someone from this site. With Augsburg drawing today, looking good for your guys.
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cmonurz It continues to irritate me that sogs has not changed the title of this thread.
Genuinely hadn't even noticed! Now changed.
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Wesley Sneijder injured for Inter on Saturday and out of 2nd Leg v Barcelona.
I'll look forward to it, Starfish. Though I'll be stranded in Bochum, so I'm kind of rooting for them to stay up, too. Looking increasingly like it'll be them against Augsburg in the playoff, though.
More generally, potentially bad news for Fulham today as Hamburg finally got rid of their terrible coach, Bruno Labbaddia, with his assistant taking charge for the final games. Their domestic season ended long before Hoffenheim did them in at the weekend, but this sacking is expressly to try and rescue the Europa League for the team. I still fancy Fulham in this, though.
More generally, potentially bad news for Fulham today as Hamburg finally got rid of their terrible coach, Bruno Labbaddia, with his assistant taking charge for the final games. Their domestic season ended long before Hoffenheim did them in at the weekend, but this sacking is expressly to try and rescue the Europa League for the team. I still fancy Fulham in this, though.
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Interesting article on St Pauli
After trekking across northern Europe to watch their team draw 0-0 with Hamburg in the Europa League on Thursday, it is a pity that more Fulham fans did not stay on an extra day to watch the club that offer the most refreshing antidote to Uefa’s corporate football ideal.
St Pauli, based in the German port’s red-light district, beat Koblenz 6-1 on Friday evening and the entertainment did not stop at the touchlines, the fans not so much a backdrop as part of the experience.
The core of the club’s support is left wing, anarchic and hedonistic, including many with “alternative” lifestyles that reflect the area. “We like to feel we are underdogs, fighting against big money,” Uwe, a magazine seller, said. “Antiracist, antifascist and internationalist.”
If a Clash reunion tour were possible, this would be its audience, except that they do all the singing. Often in English, it lasts the full 90 minutes and includes nods to the Beatles, who spent their early years around the corner at the Kaiserkeller and the Star-Club. The choirmasters are four fans with megaphones, perched on the perimeter railings behind the goal in a manner that would give British safety officers heart failure.
The motto “Non-established since 1910” says everything about the club whose team wear brown and are cheered on by fans waving the skull and crossbones. Its centenary will be celebrated not with a prestige friendly against a mega-club but against FC United of Manchester.
St Pauli could also be celebrating promotion back to the Bundesliga after relegation in 2002 was followed by several years in regional football. One win from two remaining matches will ensure that Bayern Munich and the rest will be visiting the Millerntor again next season.
They will find that the tatty but atmospheric ground is being rebuilt to hold 28,000 rather than the present snug 23,000, but it will never be confused with Hamburg’s Uefa five-star venue. The standing areas are being expanded rather than replaced by seats.
“It was a hard fight to keep standing areas in the 1990s,” Sven Brux, a former fanzine editor, now a club administrator, said. “You gave up too easily. It wasn’t standing that killed people at Hillsborough, it was mistakes by the police. That’s why so many British fans come here. English football is boring.”
This was anything but. For the first 40 minutes after the teams took the field to AC/DC’s Hells Bells promotion jitters were evident as St Pauli missed a penalty and a retake. But the crowd sang on as if they had scored and two goals in as many minutes just after half-time settled the nerves.
After the final whistle, celebrations spilt on to the nearby Reeperbahn, while 500 or so headed for their traditional watering hole, the Jolly Roger pub, to continue drinking and talk about the match and the plans for the rest of Friday night.
What they did not discuss was whether success will change St Pauli. How could it, when Corny Littman, the president, is a theatre and nightclub-owner and one-time performer in gay cabaret? “I’ve been president for seven years but a fan for 30, so I understand what they want,” he said. “I believe in the identity and you have to take care of it.”
“You only have to look around to feel the atmosphere, to understand the flair of St Pauli. I’m not afraid that we’ll lose it, even in the Bundesliga. I don’t really want to talk about it because we’re not there yet. If we are, we may change the atmosphere of the Bundesliga, but it won’t change us.”
After trekking across northern Europe to watch their team draw 0-0 with Hamburg in the Europa League on Thursday, it is a pity that more Fulham fans did not stay on an extra day to watch the club that offer the most refreshing antidote to Uefa’s corporate football ideal.
St Pauli, based in the German port’s red-light district, beat Koblenz 6-1 on Friday evening and the entertainment did not stop at the touchlines, the fans not so much a backdrop as part of the experience.
The core of the club’s support is left wing, anarchic and hedonistic, including many with “alternative” lifestyles that reflect the area. “We like to feel we are underdogs, fighting against big money,” Uwe, a magazine seller, said. “Antiracist, antifascist and internationalist.”
If a Clash reunion tour were possible, this would be its audience, except that they do all the singing. Often in English, it lasts the full 90 minutes and includes nods to the Beatles, who spent their early years around the corner at the Kaiserkeller and the Star-Club. The choirmasters are four fans with megaphones, perched on the perimeter railings behind the goal in a manner that would give British safety officers heart failure.
The motto “Non-established since 1910” says everything about the club whose team wear brown and are cheered on by fans waving the skull and crossbones. Its centenary will be celebrated not with a prestige friendly against a mega-club but against FC United of Manchester.
St Pauli could also be celebrating promotion back to the Bundesliga after relegation in 2002 was followed by several years in regional football. One win from two remaining matches will ensure that Bayern Munich and the rest will be visiting the Millerntor again next season.
They will find that the tatty but atmospheric ground is being rebuilt to hold 28,000 rather than the present snug 23,000, but it will never be confused with Hamburg’s Uefa five-star venue. The standing areas are being expanded rather than replaced by seats.
“It was a hard fight to keep standing areas in the 1990s,” Sven Brux, a former fanzine editor, now a club administrator, said. “You gave up too easily. It wasn’t standing that killed people at Hillsborough, it was mistakes by the police. That’s why so many British fans come here. English football is boring.”
This was anything but. For the first 40 minutes after the teams took the field to AC/DC’s Hells Bells promotion jitters were evident as St Pauli missed a penalty and a retake. But the crowd sang on as if they had scored and two goals in as many minutes just after half-time settled the nerves.
After the final whistle, celebrations spilt on to the nearby Reeperbahn, while 500 or so headed for their traditional watering hole, the Jolly Roger pub, to continue drinking and talk about the match and the plans for the rest of Friday night.
What they did not discuss was whether success will change St Pauli. How could it, when Corny Littman, the president, is a theatre and nightclub-owner and one-time performer in gay cabaret? “I’ve been president for seven years but a fan for 30, so I understand what they want,” he said. “I believe in the identity and you have to take care of it.”
“You only have to look around to feel the atmosphere, to understand the flair of St Pauli. I’m not afraid that we’ll lose it, even in the Bundesliga. I don’t really want to talk about it because we’re not there yet. If we are, we may change the atmosphere of the Bundesliga, but it won’t change us.”
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Jay - interesting, yes, but not news, WSC was writing about this 25 years ago. The anti-establishment attitude extends (at times) to the playing staff.
Despite the strong links to Celtic, I have a lot of time for St Pauli.
Despite the strong links to Celtic, I have a lot of time for St Pauli.
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Bayern now champions, barring cricket scores next week, as they beat Bochum and Schalke lose to Werder. Interest maintained at the bottom though - Hannover came alive to beat Gladbach 6-1, taking them out of the relegation spots for the first time in weeks. The flipside, of course, is Starfish's FCN are now in the playoff spot. One goal in it between them and Bochum - who play still-not-safe Hannover next weekend...
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Speaking to a Mallorcan resturant owner last August....he feared that RCD Mallorca would be staring relegation down the barrel.
@ him.............possible CL spot
Free meal for me this August!!!
@ him.............possible CL spot
Free meal for me this August!!!
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AthleticoSpizz Speaking to a Mallorcan resturant owner last August....he feared that RCD Mallorca would be staring relegation down the barrel.
@ him.............possible CL spot
Free meal for me this August!!!
It has been said for a while now that they will not be allowed entry to the CL as they are about to go into administration
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a real shame (if so), they are small beer in the scheme of things (yet last season they beat Barca and Real)soggy biscuitAthleticoSpizz Speaking to a Mallorcan resturant owner last August....he feared that RCD Mallorca would be staring relegation down the barrel.
@ him.............possible CL spot
Free meal for me this August!!!
It has been said for a while now that they will not be allowed entry to the CL as they are about to go into administration
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Congratulations Steve McClaren.
Italian - Jesse Carver (Juventus), 1949-50
Spanish - Terry Venables (Barcelona), 1984-85
Dutch - Bobby Robson (PSV Eindhoven), 1991-92
Portuguese - Bobby Robson (Porto), 1995-96
Dutch - Steve McClaren (FC Twente), 2009-10
Italian - Jesse Carver (Juventus), 1949-50
Spanish - Terry Venables (Barcelona), 1984-85
Dutch - Bobby Robson (PSV Eindhoven), 1991-92
Portuguese - Bobby Robson (Porto), 1995-96
Dutch - Steve McClaren (FC Twente), 2009-10
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Today, we are all native speakers of the English language with bad fake foreign accents
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soggy biscuit Congratulations Steve McClaren.
Italian - Jesse Carver (Juventus), 1949-50
Spanish - Terry Venables (Barcelona), 1984-85
Dutch - Bobby Robson (PSV Eindhoven), 1991-92
Portuguese - Bobby Robson (Porto), 1995-96
Dutch - Steve McClaren (FC Twente), 2009-10
Awesome stuff when you consider the all-time list of Eredivisie winners.
By the way Soggy, is that a list of post-war British managers of European titles? I though Hodgson had won loads....?
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"Major" domestic leagues, bottlerz
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There's some loser on this thread who predicted in August last year that FC Twente would win the title, clearly someone who knows his crazy Dutch footbaLOLLOL:
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