Hmmm. Watching England start badly, promise plenty and then inevitably fail in the World Cup, whilst cheering on the Fatherland.
Screw transfers.
Zurab - I want to come back
Absolute nonsense all this pussy footing around. Genuine promotion contenders sign good players. Get zurab in now, no excuses. Play time us over, wrap this one up please.
FiNeRaIn Absolute nonsense all this pussy footing around. Genuine promotion contenders sign good players. Get zurab in now, no excuses. Play time us over, wrap this one up please.
Meanwhile in the real world.....
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Looks like Big Sam has told Zurab he can find another club...GTFI...looks like they want him off the wage bill and the fee may be alot less than first thought...
Looks like Big Sam has told Zurab he can find another club...GTFI...looks like they want him off the wage bill and the fee may be alot less than first thought...
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Looks like Big Sam has told Zurab he can find another club...GTFI...looks like they want him off the wage bill and the fee may be alot less than first thought...
... but maybe not the wages, which are always a more significant financial commitment than the transfer fee.
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Looks like Big Sam has told Zurab he can find another club...GTFI...looks like they want him off the wage bill and the fee may be alot less than first thought...
... but maybe not the wages, which are always a more significant financial commitment than the transfer fee.
the money saved on the transfer fee, could be used for an increased signing on fee...thus enabling a reduced wage...
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If only football agents shared those sentiments - it's more likley to be that the money saved on the transfer fee could be used for an increased signing on fee...with no changes to the wages.
All depends on how just desperate he is and if there are lots of clubs after him.
All depends on how just desperate he is and if there are lots of clubs after him.
To be fair, was he *that* good??
He played a few times for us, that's all.
Wouldn't get carried away.
He played a few times for us, that's all.
Wouldn't get carried away.
Interesting .......
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_6226466,00.html
Sam Allardyce believes Zurab Khizanishvili should leave Blackburn for the sake of his own career.
The Georgia international moved to Ewood Park in 2006 but has fallen down the pecking order in recent years and spent time on loan at Newcastle and Reading last season.
Khizanishvili has not been able to secure a permanent switch this summer and his future remains uncertain, with a year still left on his Rovers contract.
Allardyce admits the 28-year-old defender does not figure in his plans for the new campaign and would prefer a sale rather than another loan, insisting that Blackburn would not block any reasonable approach.
"He is one to let go for our sake and for his," Allardyce told the Lancashire Telegraph.
"He has played far too little football at this club over the last two years to be wanting to stay and for us to be wanting to keep him.
"I think wherever a football club would like to take him on, we wouldn't be standing in his way.
"We would not want to loan him again. We want him to build a future for himself."
Problem
Allardyce can understand the financial benefits to Khizanishvili of staying at Blackburn but feels he should be looking to play regularly elsewhere.
"He has still got a few good years of playing football in him," said the Rovers boss.
"Of course one of the problems is he can't match the salary at other clubs that he gets at Blackburn Rovers now.
"That is one of the major reasons he hasn't moved on in the past two years.
"But now is the time to move for the football rather than thinking about the money."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11676_6226466,00.html
Sam Allardyce believes Zurab Khizanishvili should leave Blackburn for the sake of his own career.
The Georgia international moved to Ewood Park in 2006 but has fallen down the pecking order in recent years and spent time on loan at Newcastle and Reading last season.
Khizanishvili has not been able to secure a permanent switch this summer and his future remains uncertain, with a year still left on his Rovers contract.
Allardyce admits the 28-year-old defender does not figure in his plans for the new campaign and would prefer a sale rather than another loan, insisting that Blackburn would not block any reasonable approach.
"He is one to let go for our sake and for his," Allardyce told the Lancashire Telegraph.
"He has played far too little football at this club over the last two years to be wanting to stay and for us to be wanting to keep him.
"I think wherever a football club would like to take him on, we wouldn't be standing in his way.
"We would not want to loan him again. We want him to build a future for himself."
Problem
Allardyce can understand the financial benefits to Khizanishvili of staying at Blackburn but feels he should be looking to play regularly elsewhere.
"He has still got a few good years of playing football in him," said the Rovers boss.
"Of course one of the problems is he can't match the salary at other clubs that he gets at Blackburn Rovers now.
"That is one of the major reasons he hasn't moved on in the past two years.
"But now is the time to move for the football rather than thinking about the money."
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2 world wars, 1 world cup To be fair, was he *that* good??
Yes. He made a huge difference along with Griffin at right back.
You could argue a fit Ivar, Pearce and Mills is good enough, Gunnarsson as 4th choice cover maybe, but really we need 4 decent centre backs. Missmahwilly would be a starter along with Mills IMO.
Have to disagree there.
Griffin played regularly and sorted out a problem position for us. His role was crucial and McD also said several times that Griff was a big influence off the pitch too.
Whilst Zurab was impressive while he played he was in and out of the side and i would say he gave us a much needed extra option but when he didn;t play we didn;t really miss him. Pearce stepped in more than adequately for him.
I do think he would be a good signing, he's clearly a good player, lots of experience and definitely would add to the squad. But I don;t think he was as influential as Griffin last season - which isn't to say he wouldn;t be next season of course !!
Griffin played regularly and sorted out a problem position for us. His role was crucial and McD also said several times that Griff was a big influence off the pitch too.
Whilst Zurab was impressive while he played he was in and out of the side and i would say he gave us a much needed extra option but when he didn;t play we didn;t really miss him. Pearce stepped in more than adequately for him.
I do think he would be a good signing, he's clearly a good player, lots of experience and definitely would add to the squad. But I don;t think he was as influential as Griffin last season - which isn't to say he wouldn;t be next season of course !!
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Under the impression Ivar would still be 1st choice.
Zurab gives lots of options though, can cover both centre half and right back, so could also free up Griff to cover for left back if needed.
Not sure he improves the starting 11, but improves the squad big time in a lot of areas. Plus with Ivar's injury record of late, he is a risk.
Zurab gives lots of options though, can cover both centre half and right back, so could also free up Griff to cover for left back if needed.
Not sure he improves the starting 11, but improves the squad big time in a lot of areas. Plus with Ivar's injury record of late, he is a risk.
Exactly.
He hasn't done enough to prove he's a starter.
He's a squad player, no more.
So I hope we don't break the bank for him.
If he omes on a free or small fee and doesn't cost much muh wage-wise I say take him. Otherwise I'm not fussed in the slightest.
He hasn't done enough to prove he's a starter.
He's a squad player, no more.
So I hope we don't break the bank for him.
If he omes on a free or small fee and doesn't cost much muh wage-wise I say take him. Otherwise I'm not fussed in the slightest.
Not sure I'd actually agree there.
As I said I don;t think he was as influential as Griff, but he showed he is a very good player and I would see it as a really big battle for the second starting place.
He's clearly got the ability to play regularly for us, and it was as much niggling injuries that stpped him doing it last season as any lack of ability.
The jury is out, but I think it's wrong to say he would 'just' be a squad player. Cisse is 'just' a squad player, Henry is (at the moment ) 'just' a squad player but Zurab could form a very solid partnership with Mills if he is given the chance.
As I said I don;t think he was as influential as Griff, but he showed he is a very good player and I would see it as a really big battle for the second starting place.
He's clearly got the ability to play regularly for us, and it was as much niggling injuries that stpped him doing it last season as any lack of ability.
The jury is out, but I think it's wrong to say he would 'just' be a squad player. Cisse is 'just' a squad player, Henry is (at the moment ) 'just' a squad player but Zurab could form a very solid partnership with Mills if he is given the chance.
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Exactly. Kingfisherwilly > Ingimarsson
2 world wars, 1 world cup Exactly.
He hasn't done enough to prove he's a starter.
He's a squad player, no more.
So I hope we don't break the bank for him.
If he omes on a free or small fee and doesn't cost much muh wage-wise I say take him. Otherwise I'm not fussed in the slightest.
Awful, awful post. Majorly incorrect.
He was top draw for us and would be our first choice partner for mills without question.
I'd like to see whether he can put in a full season. His track record to date is patchy, Blackburn are by far the best team he's played for and he's not exactly held down a regular place there. Is he plagued by endless niggly injuries ? Is he inconsistent ? Would a drop back down to the level he played at a few years ago be what he needs ?
I liked what I saw from him in the time he was with us but there is also a slight doubt about him - is he the sort of player that plays for a contract then eases off until the next deal is on the horizon ?
I liked what I saw from him in the time he was with us but there is also a slight doubt about him - is he the sort of player that plays for a contract then eases off until the next deal is on the horizon ?
FiNeRaIn2 world wars, 1 world cup Exactly.
He hasn't done enough to prove he's a starter.
He's a squad player, no more.
So I hope we don't break the bank for him.
If he omes on a free or small fee and doesn't cost much muh wage-wise I say take him. Otherwise I'm not fussed in the slightest.
Awful, awful post. Majorly incorrect.
He was top draw for us and would be our first choice partner for mills without question.
Ok fair enough. What do others think?
I wasn't overly impressed, he's good on the ball but lacks pace. I certainly would not want to break the bank to get him or pay inflated wages.
The report is just Sam saying he wants him off the wage bill and trying to encourage Zurab to take a cut in wages and go elsewhere, in return he'll be flexible with the transfer fee. The only leverage he's got on Zurab is threatening not to loan him out.
The report is just Sam saying he wants him off the wage bill and trying to encourage Zurab to take a cut in wages and go elsewhere, in return he'll be flexible with the transfer fee. The only leverage he's got on Zurab is threatening not to loan him out.
PieEater The only leverage he's got on Zurab is threatening not to loan him out.
He can do more than that.
He can do what many managers have done before and told a player he's not part of the plans, won't be included in the first team squad, won;t train with the first team etc etc. The player can chose to stay and pick up his wages if he wants, but most will jump at the first decent offer.
Blackburn could also pay off his contract and make him a free agent.
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