Paul Scholes

Who's the better player?

Scholes
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Lampard
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Paul Scholes

by TBM » 17 Aug 2010 00:42

Awesome player and someone England really miss in their midfield

Do we have anyone who is on his wavelength coming through the ranks?
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Re: Paul Scholes

by cmonurz » 17 Aug 2010 01:55

Unfortunately Beckham is the only player of his generation to genuinely value playing for England above his club. Scholes doesn't, and bottled it a long time ago.

And no, there isn't a new Scholes coming through.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by gazzer, loyal royal » 17 Aug 2010 09:19

cmonurz Unfortunately Beckham is the only player of his generation to genuinely value playing for England above his club. Scholes doesn't, and bottled it a long time ago.

And no, there isn't a new Scholes coming through.


Wilshere is the closest but won't get anywhere near Scholes's level

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Re: Paul Scholes

by rfcjoe » 17 Aug 2010 09:20

Shits over all other English midfielders. Maybe apart from Gerrard on his day.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Hoop Blah » 17 Aug 2010 11:04

Scholes was an awesome little player who was probably under valued by many purely because he didn't covet the media attention and praise that others have done over the years.

He was pretty average for long spells last season though, so although he still has exceptional games in him they'll be few and far between (relatively speaking) this season, as they were last season when he was distinctly average at times.

England missed him, but he couldn't hack it and found tournaments hard to deal with by the sounds of it. He was also moved about too much to suit other players (sound familiar) and so we probably didn't see the best of him for England.

I'm quite hopeful that Wilshire comes close to replacing him, but in terms of ability that's a big ask.


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Re: Paul Scholes

by papereyes » 17 Aug 2010 11:15

He retired early as he was being shifted around to accomodate Lampard, Gerrard and, to a lesser extent, Beckham.

Euro 2004 saw him playing wide left in some games.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Big Foot » 17 Aug 2010 11:49

If he's that good why hasn't he got many personal awards? Where are his nominations for World Football of the Year etc?

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Re: Paul Scholes

by cmonurz » 17 Aug 2010 11:54

You can be very, very good, and not be World Footballer of the Year?

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Big Foot » 17 Aug 2010 11:59

How can he be thought of as better than Lampard then? Lampard has more individual accolades than Scholes


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Re: Paul Scholes

by TFF » 17 Aug 2010 11:59

I would have been embarrassed to be a Newcastle fan last night. Scholes is good but they made him look brilliant.

Newcastle gave him so much space and time on the ball it was no wonder he was able to pick out a few good passes.

On another note, LOL at Barton's Chuckle Brother moustache

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Re: Paul Scholes

by TBM » 17 Aug 2010 12:00

Big Foot If he's that good why hasn't he got many personal awards? Where are his nominations for World Football of the Year etc?


cos what he does, isn't picked up by the TV/Media.......his vision, movement, passing are almost ninja like and go un-noticed but would be sorely missed when he retires

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Re: Paul Scholes

by cmonurz » 17 Aug 2010 12:10

The description 'ninja-like' should really get more airing in football punditry.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by No Fixed Abode » 17 Aug 2010 12:20

*Lampard finished 2nd in World Player of the Year.


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Re: Paul Scholes

by Silver Fox » 17 Aug 2010 12:24

Another fail for Fwank there

That Friday Feeling On another note, LOL at Barton's Chuckle Brother moustache


I'm hoping they don't win for ages and gets really out of control

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Re: Paul Scholes

by 6ft Kerplunk » 17 Aug 2010 12:27

Scholes wouldn't be as good if he was putting in the extra games and training that being an international requires. At his age he benefits more from the extra rest. Same for Giggs. Both are excellent players who've played on for an extra couple of years because they quit internatonal football. You could argue that Scholes wasn't re-producing his club form for England hence he was shifted around a bit.

Newcastle just gave him too much space last night when they should really have got Barton or Smith to man-mark him after he started running the game. Although that does take away from his excellent movement that means he gets the ball with time and space to look up and pick a pass.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Thomas L'Heureux » 17 Aug 2010 12:38

I think Zidane once said that Paul Scholes was the best player he had ever played against. That indeed is some praise.

All of his fellow prefessionals seem to really rate Scholes though. I remember Roy Keane talking him up big-style as well, especially about his 'nasty side'.

EDIT: Found the Zidane quote;
Zinidine Zidane "My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder. Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation."

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Big Foot » 17 Aug 2010 12:53

Thomas L'Heureux I think Zidane once said that Paul Scholes was the best player he had ever played against. That indeed is some praise.

All of his fellow prefessionals seem to really rate Scholes though. I remember Roy Keane talking him up big-style as well, especially about his 'nasty side'.

EDIT: Found the Zidane quote;
Zinidine Zidane "My toughest opponent? Scholes of Manchester. He is the complete midfielder. Scholes is undoubtedly the greatest midfielder of his generation."
Some praise indeed, but he's not even won the players player of the year in the Premierleague?

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Re: Paul Scholes

by cmonurz » 17 Aug 2010 12:54

Being Harold's wing-man is like being a fluffer for a eunuch.

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Re: Paul Scholes

by Big Foot » 17 Aug 2010 14:09

I just want to know what makes people like rfcjoe think they can come out with a ludicrous comment like that

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Re: Paul Scholes

by rfcjoe » 17 Aug 2010 14:11

a crazy thing called an opinion, pal.

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