Harte Signs

[Snowball]

I thought Harte had an ok game, but at the same time he gifted the opposition what should've been a match winning goal.

If that were me I'd be berating myself for a crucial mistake that turned an average performance into a bad one. His free kick was excellent though and probably pushed him back up to average.

I thought Harte had an extremely good game, near-perfect, but at the same time he partly-gifted the opposition what a goal.

If that were me I'd be berating myself for an uncharacteristic mistake that turned an superb performance into one that was merely well-above average and good enough to get me into the Championship Team of the Week. His free kick was more than excellent though, at least as good if not better than Gylfi and pushed him back up to well-above-average.


How many of these shots-on-goal direct free-kicks has Harte had?

My fallible memory says he has scored from almost every one, (I think I can vaguely remember one going just over?)
which is why he's WAY AHEAD of Gylfi in scoring free-kicks per games played.

[Wycombe Royal]

I thought Harte had an extremely good game, near-perfect, but at the same time he partly-gifted the opposition what a goal.

If that were me I'd be berating myself for an uncharacteristic mistake that turned an superb performance into one that was merely well-above average and good enough to get me into the Championship Team of the Week. His free kick was more than excellent though, at least as good if not better than Gylfi and pushed him back up to well-above-average.

So if we lose a match 1-0 because Feds does everything right throughout the match except in the last minute he lets a weak shot through his hands into the goal would you say it was a well above average performance? I'm sure that will be a lot of consolation to McD and his team mates when they look at the result.

[Snowball]

Now HERE is a nice statistic.

Harte is really, seriously DEADLY as a marksman. MUCH deadlier than Gylfi, much.

Gylfi, great player that he is, did waste a lot of chances, and when on target, scored once every 3.5 times he was on target.

Harte, by comparison? He scores a goal every 3.96 CHANCES, nearly twice as deadly as Gylfi. If he's on target he scores 50% of the time!!!

This Season:

13 Shots 6 On Target, 7 OFF Target 5 goals from 13 shots = 1 goal every 2.60 Shots Harte
12 Shots 3 On Target, 9 OFF Target 2 goals from 12 Shots = 1 goal every 6.00 Shots Gylfi (Off Target includes hitting woodwork once)

Last Season

131 Shots 71 On Target 60 OFF Target 20 Goals from 131 Shots = 1 goal every 6.50 Shots Gylfi (Off Target includes hitting woodwork 6 times)
078 Shots 36 On target 42 OFF Target 18 Goals from 078 Shots = 1 goal every 4.33 Shots Harte (Off Target includes hitting woodwork 8 times)

Combined

091 Shots 42 On Target + 08 Hit Woodwork - 41 OFF target: 23 Goals from 091 Shots = 1 Goal every 3.96 shots HARTE (Off Target includes hitting woodwork 8 times)
144 Shots 74 On target + 07 Hit Woodwork - 69 OFF target: 20 Goals from 144 Shots = 1 Goal every 7.20 shots GYLFI (Off Target includes hitting woodwork 7 times)

[Snowball]

So if we lose a match 1-0 because Feds does everything right throughout the match except in the last minute he lets a weak shot through his hands into the goal would you say it was a well above average performance? I'm sure that will be a lot of consolation to McD and his team mates when they look at the result.

If we went to Manchester United and Federici had a BLINDER and saved 23 point-blank shots,
got out to one-on-ones 7 times and won the ball every time, without conceding a penalty,
and then in the last minute did what he did versus Forest this season and we lost 1-0?


I think he would be chaired off the pitch as a hero and we'd say, "It's a cruel game."



All players, even the best, make mistakes. "Salience and relevance" a human inference fault makes us exaggerate bad moments (damning the player unfairly)
and also makes us exaggerate "great" moments (which may be rare) thereby OVER-rating a player incorrectly.

[Wycombe Royal]

I think he would be chaired off the pitch as a hero and we'd say, "It's a cruel game."

Not by me he wouldn't. That one mistake would have undone all the good he did.

Losing 1 nil or 4 nil - who cares it is still ZERO points.

Ever heard the phrase "hero to zero"? Yes it is cruel but such is life.

[cmonurz]

Perhaps human inference fault can be suggested to have lead to you over-rating the performances of Shane Long this season. As evidence I suggest your countless posts highlighting or underlining or bolding every time Shane Long did something even remotely attacking.

[cmonurz]

Now HERE is a nice statistic.

Harte is really, seriously DEADLY as a marksman.

I'd suggest there's a qualitative side to this in that Harte will have taken relatively fewer shots at goal from open play to Gylfi. It's difficult to compare shooting accuracy/goals per shots of an attacking midfielder, whose shots may be on the run, volleys, at a tight angle, under pressure or whatever, with a left-back who takes a far greater proportion of his shots as dead balls (as skilful as Harte's free-kicks are).

[Snowball]

I think he would be chaired off the pitch as a hero and we'd say, "It's a cruel game."

Not by me he wouldn't. That one mistake would have undone all the good he did.

That just describes YOU.

Me, I would cheer him to the roof-tops (after I'd checkedhisstas, of course)


Just like someone decent started the "We love you, Feds" after the Forest game

[Snowball]

Perhaps human inference fault can be suggested to have lead to you over-rating the performances of Shane Long this season. As evidence I suggest your countless posts highlighting or underlining or bolding every time Shane Long did something even remotely attacking.

"rz" you clearly haven't read anything on the subject, so don't even try...

I went to look CAREFULLY at all our goals and posted what I perceived to be facts

Just as I posted the AFC data as I got it, or the data on goal-scoring affecting Team of the Week selection.

[Wycombe Royal]

I think he would be chaired off the pitch as a hero and we'd say, "It's a cruel game."

Not by me he wouldn't. That one mistake would have undone all the good he did.

That just describes YOU.

Me, I would cheer him to the roof-tops (after I'd checkedhisstas, of course)

Just like someone decent started the "We love you, Feds" after the Forest game

Did I say I would have hated him? Booed him? Wanted him sold? Well did I? No I just said I wouldn't cheering him off the pitch as a hero.

Try reading what people write before you stick your foot in your mouth.

And drop the capitals. They aren't needed and just give the appearance of you ramming your opinion down peoples throats. I could have read the word "you" just as well if it was in lower case.

[cmonurz]

I'll 'try' as much I like. I think you over-rate the performances of Shane Long, and as it's a new phrase I learned today, I'm going to put it down to 'human inference fault'. I'm also going to suggest I'm guilty of it too, under-rating his performances.

[Snowball]

Now HERE is a nice statistic.

Harte is really, seriously DEADLY as a marksman.

I'd suggest there's a qualitative side to this in that Harte will have taken relatively fewer shots at goal from open play to Gylfi. It's difficult to compare shooting accuracy/goals per shots of an attacking midfielder, whose shots may be on the run, volleys, at a tight angle, under pressure or whatever, with a left-back who takes a far greater proportion of his shots as dead balls (as skilful as Harte's free-kicks are).

Of course that's a factor but Harte is seriously deadly

Gylfi's accuracy is POOR, worse than any of our strikers, worse than Doyle, Kitson, Lita

Just go read the official figures. He really was wasteful.

Just, say, look at the last 144 chances for Hunt, Long, Church and see how many went in

[Snowball]

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Just like someone decent started the "We love you, Feds" after the Forest game

Did I say I would have hated him? Booed him? Wanted him sold? Well did I? No I just said I wouldn't cheering him off the pitch as a hero.

Try reading what people write before you stick your foot in your mouth.

And drop the capitals. They aren't needed and just give the appearance of you ramming your opinion down peoples throats. I could have read the word "you" just as well if it was in lower case.[/quote]

I know what I read, and never mentioned you "hating" anyone.

You wouldn't cheer and I would

[Snowball]

144 Shots 74 On target + 07 Hit Woodwork - 69 OFF target: 20 Goals from 144 Shots = 1 Goal every 7.20 shots GYLFI (Off Target includes hitting woodwork 7 times


Shane is 147 Shots 80 on target, five hit woodwork, 62 off

31 goals from 147 shots

1 goal every 4.7 shots


As I thought, more accurate and more deadly when he shoots

[cmonurz]

Where do you get the hit woodwork stats?

The only thing that confuses me about those stats is how Gylfi managed to amass 144 shots in such a short space of time, or at least relative to Long, who has been in and around the first team for nearly three times as long.

[Snowball]

Scary thought

That 147 was Shane's RFC career

Gylfi was 47 (3) last season and this





Woodwork stats on the OS

[Hoop Blah]

Where do you get the hit woodwork stats?

The only thing that confuses me about those stats is how Gylfi managed to amass 144 shots in such a short space of time, or at least relative to Long, who has been in and around the first team for nearly three times as long.

It can't have been from attacking free kicks because we only get 1 a game!

[Snowball]

Where do you get the hit woodwork stats?

The only thing that confuses me about those stats is how Gylfi managed to amass 144 shots in such a short space of time, or at least relative to Long, who has been in and around the first team for nearly three times as long.

It can't have been from attacking free kicks because we only get 1 a game!

Silly little boy

[Ian Royal]

Where do you get the hit woodwork stats?

The only thing that confuses me about those stats is how Gylfi managed to amass 144 shots in such a short space of time, or at least relative to Long, who has been in and around the first team for nearly three times as long.

It can't have been from attacking free kicks because we only get 1 a game!

I counted 7 (seven) against Donny, so presumably we won't get another one for six games or so. Actually weren't there a minimum of 5 against Swansea? Jesus, Christ we've used up half our home attacking freekicks in two games!

[Snowball]

These are the "Deadliness" Stats, compiled from the RFC OS

By "career" I mean Reading, all seasons.

Kitson scores a goal every 3.9 chances
Long is second best, a goal every 4.7 chances, better than Doyle

This is CONVERTING CHANCES, Nothing to do with Goals per game

244 143 094 7 062 Goals 3.94 Kitson Career
091 042 041 8 023 Goals 3.96 Harte Last Season and this (Added for Comparison) EDIT
145 078 062 5 031 Goals 4.70 Long Career
274 144 124 6 056 Goals 4.90 Doyle Career
078 040 034 4 015 Goals 5.20 Church Career
080 045 029 6 015 Goals 5.30 Hunt Career
054 030 023 1 010 Goals 5.40 Rasiak Career
184 101 075 8 031 Goals 5.90 Lita Career
143 074 061 8 022 Goals 6.50 Gylfi Career
127 069 056 2 018 Goals 7.10 Kebe Career