IN - or NOT?

[Hoop Blah]

Improving communication between the officials in an environment where the crowd can make a lot of noise isn't the same as introducing technology to automate decisions and take away responsibility from the ref though Dirk.

I wouldn't really agree with the claim that 4th officials seperate the top leagues from park football either because they don't really do anything to control the game.

The reason the arguement is put forward is because football sees itself as the same sport from top the bottom and it's one of it's appeals. Is it that much different to any other sport though? Probably not and I don't think it's a good enough argument to stop any technology being considered.

My view is very similar to yours on the rest though. Video replays is an absolute no no. It just won't fit with the flow and speed of the game. In goal camera's is another no no. Probably half the contentious incidents we've seen over the years involve bodies on the line obscuring the view and so they'd not solve enough to warrent the change.

At the end of the day, how many of these incidents actually occur? In the last 20 years I can only remember a few involving Reading. Last nights, the phantom goal at Watford and the one at Southend that I can't even remember the details of it as it was so long ago. I'm sure I've forgotten a few, but basically there isn't that many of these so do we really need the technology?

[Hoop Blah]

I didn't even think it was close to being in from the East Stand.

The replays make it look a lot closer though and I don't think you can say the lino got it wrong from the TV evidence.

[Tinrib]

I sit bang in line with the goal line and it was defo not in.

Shit keeping by Feds tho'.

[Vision]

I'm with the old fashioned and quaint notion of accepting the officials decision and getting on with the oxf*rd game.

Goal line incidents like last night are so rare that it amazes me that people get so het up about it. Actually it doesn't , we've all been duped by Sky to think that the game will go to rack and ruin without goal line technology. Utter bollocks.

BTW I'm sick to the back teeth of managers and players blaming an individual decision from an official as "costing them the game" without taking into account all the things that they messed up which could also have altered the course of the game. Pick a better side, shoot straighter, pass better, mark better, tackle better. Its revolutionary I know but hell it might just get you the preferred result more often than not.

[Snowball]

I have a solution!

Make the goals smaller

and it's a goal if it touches the woodwork in any way shape or form

[Rev Algenon Stickleback H]

Imagine the ball doesn't go out of play for 5 minutes and then a goal is retrospectively awarded after when it does - do you play those 5 minutes again or just write them off? What if a team's made a substitution in that time.... the problems are countless and would just complicate.

Why would you need to wait 5 minutes for the ball to go out of play if the decision can be made by a 4th official within 30 seconds? You don't need to stop the game to make a decision, not would you need to wait until the ball goes out of play to make it.

As soon as his decision is made, he tells the ref it was a goal or not. Until then, play can go on.

And I'd like to know how a substitition could be made in those 5 minutes without the ball going ot of play.

[Hoop Blah]

I'm with the old fashioned and quaint notion of accepting the officials decision and getting on with the oxf*rd game.

Goal line incidents like last night are so rare that it amazes me that people get so het up about it. Actually it doesn't , we've all been duped by Sky to think that the game will go to rack and ruin without goal line technology. Utter bollocks.

BTW I'm sick to the back teeth of managers and players blaming an individual decision from an official as "costing them the game" without taking into account all the things that they messed up which could also have altered the course of the game. Pick a better side, shoot straighter, pass better, mark better, tackle better. Its revolutionary I know but hell it might just get you the preferred result more often than not.

Totally agree, and if they all stopped trying to cheat each other by diving and trying to con the ref they wouldn't get half as many controversial incidents anyway.

[Leamington Royal]

I have a solution!

Make the goals smaller

and it's a goal if it touches the woodwork in any way shape or form

Brilliant!

[Snowball]

I have a solution!

Make the goals smaller

and it's a goal if it touches the woodwork in any way shape or form

Brilliant!

Should we tell the FA?

[Jerry St Clair]

BTW I'm sick to the back teeth of managers and players blaming an individual decision from an official as "costing them the game" without taking into account all the things that they messed up which could also have altered the course of the game. Pick a better side, shoot straighter, pass better, mark better, tackle better. Its revolutionary I know but hell it might just get you the preferred result more often than not.

Spot the fukk on

Managers and players rarely acknowledge their own mistakes and, if they do, they inevitably excuse them. Shame they don't afford the same level of tolerance to refs.

[Trainspotter]

The officials were coplete twats! The referee should think of an alternative occupation. Was he trying to join in?
the lino was just trying to make a name for himself.
'The whole of the ball over the line' is a hell of a long way. How could it come off the crossbar, bounce in And out and hit a post and into Federici's arms? The laws of physics don't allow this to be possible. In any case, THE OFFICIALS WERE A DISGRACE!

[rabidbee]

Agree with Vision.

Just get on with it.

[Ian Royal]

Agree with Vision.

Just get on with it.

agree with the sentiment, but I think we've seen enough incidents in the last few years (in England, as opposed to just Reading) to warrant a roll out of goal line tech for the top couple of divisions at least.

[glass half full]

As with the Highway Code: "If in doubt, hold back." That said, the lino had no doubts.

Great shot by Bothroyd that, in fairness, probably deserved a goal (gnash, gnash!)

[RoyalBlue]

The officials were coplete twats! The referee should think of an alternative occupation. Was he trying to join in?
the lino was just trying to make a name for himself.
'The whole of the ball over the line' is a hell of a long way. How could it come off the crossbar, bounce in And out and hit a post and into Federici's arms? The laws of physics don't allow this to be possible.

You haven't heard of the concept of spin or watched The Dambusters then?!

[Elmer Park]

The officials were coplete twats! The referee should think of an alternative occupation. Was he trying to join in?
the lino was just trying to make a name for himself.
'The whole of the ball over the line' is a hell of a long way. How could it come off the crossbar, bounce in And out and hit a post and into Federici's arms? The laws of physics don't allow this to be possible. In any case, THE OFFICIALS WERE A DISGRACE!

I agree that to me it shouldn't be possible but I refer you to Frank Lampard's phantom goal against Germany for an example of how a shot can come down off the underside of the crossbar and then take a trajectory away from the goal. I understand Geoff Hurst believes it possible too but maybe not so many Germans.

Well put sentiments about Mr D'Urso who every time we have him seems to have selective sight.

[SLAMMED]

Not over.

[Ian Royal]

don't really matter though does it slammed? It was given and it's not blatantly wrong as a decision, you can clearly see white line pitchside of the ball. There's no way you can expect an official to get those calls right every time. Shit happens.

[Gunny Fishcake]

IN

How do you do that ?

[philM]

I used my camera to video the tv footage, uploaded that to my pc, chopped it up using Sony Vegas to give me an .avi file of the relevant section. Then I used Frameshots (freebie demo version) to export the individual frames to .jpgs, then used MS Digital Image Suite to generate the gif.

It would have been much simpler to just use Sony Vegas, except it doesn't let you create .gif files, and I cant find a free .avi to .gif converter.