by Wimb » 19 Nov 2010 00:08
by Snowball » 19 Nov 2010 00:26
Wimb Following URZ lead, won't post again in this you defy all logic Snowball.
by Snowball » 19 Nov 2010 00:39
StrandedWycombe RoyalSnowball I haven't yet done his whole career, but he is probably under a goal ever 200 minutes, not far off 1 in 180
I would be VERY surprised if it is that low, so get that calculator number crunching......
Going by Soccerbase, Shane Long has spent 8697 mins on the pitch for Reading & ROI scoring 37 goals.
This equates to a goal every 235 mins.
This season, he has played 1582 mins, scoring 6. A goal every 263 mins (just better that 1 in 3) for both Reading and ROI>
So this season, he is scoring at a lesser rate that his career average.
by Stranded » 19 Nov 2010 08:51
Snowball
They are WRONG. To begin with he has scored 38 goals
by supermasssarr » 19 Nov 2010 09:04
by Wycombe Royal » 19 Nov 2010 09:35
Snowball If soccerbase is correct
by brendywendy » 19 Nov 2010 10:01
by Snowball » 19 Nov 2010 10:57
by Wycombe Royal » 19 Nov 2010 11:05
by Snowball » 19 Nov 2010 11:12
by Snowball » 19 Nov 2010 11:13
Wycombe Royal Snowball goes off at a tangent again.
by Wycombe Royal » 19 Nov 2010 11:20
SnowballWycombe Royal Snowball goes off at a tangent again.
How is it "a tangent" to note that a player being slagged is actually doing well?
by Maguire » 19 Nov 2010 11:51
by Ian Royal » 19 Nov 2010 12:56
StrandedSnowball
They are WRONG. To begin with he has scored 38 goals
You are correct, that have not updated his total apps/goals for Ireland. They do show his goal in the breakdown of fixtures though, meaning this seasons record is correct.
Overall, his record is a goal every 228 minutes of pitch time over his career and 263 mins this season. Very decent, be interesting to see how that is skewed when looking at goals per start (as you mention yourself Church's stats this season are affected majorly by his goals as a sub). If I have time I will look at it - will be interesting to see if there is a noticeable different in his goals per min as a starter, may give creedance to those who feel he currently suits s "super sub" role.
His goals per min in the last 10 games is very good, and if he can keep that form up (or close to) then I don't think anyone will have any complaints. He has had these "purple patches" before though, so there remains a question over whether he can keep it going and by that I mean finish with 15 goals which I think is a fair ask from your main striker.
by Snowball » 19 Nov 2010 12:57
by Snowball » 19 Nov 2010 13:17
by Terminal Boardom » 19 Nov 2010 13:48
by Wycombe Royal » 19 Nov 2010 13:48
by Vision » 19 Nov 2010 14:08
by facaldaqui » 19 Nov 2010 14:09
Terminal Boardom I have never seen so much pedantry in my life. Oh for the good old days when players goalscoring exploits were measured by games started and substitute appearances.
Does anyone remember David Fairclough of Liverpool? He was probably the original supersub. Scored lots of goals when coming off the bench. Did not start that many though as he was not good enough to get into the side considering the wealth of talent at Liverpool's disposal back then.
What ever next? Include the number of seconds when someone is on the pitch?
Statistics only give one dimension. They do not give any sort of indication as to how well, or badly, someone is performing. I have mentioned Ollie Kearns before. His goals per game ratio was outstanding. But that did not hide the fact to those around in the 70s and 80s that he was one of the most infuriating players ever to wear the hoops. He could make the easy look impossible and the difficult look ridiculously easy. Now, how DID that song go?
Back to Long
Goals per game ratio is low for a striker who has been at the club for such a long time. It should be better but it isn't. What is of more interest to me is how the club go about exploiting his talents to the full. I really don't give a flying one if he is scoring at this many minutes, that many minutes, or even if he perfers playing against teams that have one kit manufacturer or another. It really is not that important. What is is that the club do something about it.
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