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by Ian Royal » 14 Dec 2010 00:18

Hodgson looks like a man over the edge. And this has got to be putting a massive dent in his reputation too.

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by Silver Fox » 14 Dec 2010 13:56

I demand someone cleverer than me doctors that for even more LOLz

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by Scylla » 14 Dec 2010 16:58

Ian Royal Hodgson looks like a man over the edge. And this has got to be putting a massive dent in his reputation too.


What reputation? He's always been mediocre.


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by Bandini » 14 Dec 2010 17:08

Mediocrity is little more than an aspiration for him at the moment.

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by prostak » 14 Dec 2010 19:17

Always mediocre? Taking an apparently relegation-bound side to the Swedish championship in his first proper managerial job? Making Switzerland, SWITZERLAND for God's sake, look like a very decent side, and number 3 in the FIFA rankings (their Euro 96 performance after losing him to Inter showing that he wasn't just fortunate to be in charge of a golden generation)? Fulham, in a European final!

Everywhere Hodgson has been given time, he's ended up building a successful team. Everywhere he's 'failed' has been beset by unrealistic expectations by fans who've tasted recent, unexpected success and unrealistically demand this continues.

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by Ian Royal » 14 Dec 2010 19:31

Did a really mediocre job turning Fulham from relegation certainties half way through a season to 7th best team in the country the next season.

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by roadrunner » 14 Dec 2010 20:05

prostak Always mediocre? Taking an apparently relegation-bound side to the Swedish championship in his first proper managerial job? Making Switzerland, SWITZERLAND for God's sake, look like a very decent side, and number 3 in the FIFA rankings (their Euro 96 performance after losing him to Inter showing that he wasn't just fortunate to be in charge of a golden generation)? Fulham, in a European final!

Everywhere Hodgson has been given time, he's ended up building a successful team. Everywhere he's 'failed' has been beset by unrealistic expectations by fans who've tasted recent, unexpected success and unrealistically demand this continues.


He did a reasonably good job at Blackburn but then it took a dramatic turn for the worse and the following season he was sacked before Christmas, leaving Brian Kidd to take over, spend something stupid like £20m and then relegate them, possibly saving Hodgson's blushes from having that relegation on his CV.

Hodgson's managerial career

1971–1972 Maidstone United Assistant Coach
1976 Carshalton Athletic
1976–1980 Halmstad
1980–1982 Bristol City
1982 Oddevold
1983–1985 Örebro
1985–1990 Malmö FF
1990–1992 Neuchâtel Xamax
1992–1995 Switzerland
1995–1997 Internazionale
1997–1998 Blackburn Rovers
1999 Internazionale
1999–2000 Grasshopper
2000–2001 FC Copenhagen
2001 Udinese
2002–2004 United Arab Emirates
2004–2005 Viking
2006–2007 Finland
2007–2010 Fulham
2010–Present Liverpool


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by soggy biscuit » 14 Dec 2010 20:27

Scylla What reputation? He's always been mediocre.


:lol:

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by Scylla » 15 Dec 2010 12:44

Ian Royal Did a really mediocre job turning Fulham from relegation certainties half way through a season to 7th best team in the country the next season.


And last year they improved to an exciting 12th. He must be next in line for the Barca job after Fat Sam.

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by Victor Meldrew » 15 Dec 2010 13:40

Scylla
Ian Royal Hodgson looks like a man over the edge. And this has got to be putting a massive dent in his reputation too.


What reputation? He's always been mediocre.


Yes,mediocre managers get taken on by the current European Club chamions Inter Milan TWICE do they?
Muppet.

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by Scylla » 15 Dec 2010 13:48

I didn't realise that being appointed was the mark of success. I thought that you had to achieve something once you were there. Sir Alex must be gutted he's wasted so much winning football matches.


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by Victor Meldrew » 15 Dec 2010 14:45

Scylla I didn't realise that being appointed was the mark of success. I thought that you had to achieve something once you were there. Sir Alex must be gutted he's wasted so much winning football matches.


Er...you were talking about mediocre.
In my book to be appointed by Inter twice,drag the Swiss national side up from a nonentity,manage other national sides as well as 3 sides in the Premier league suggests to me that a lot of people in world football hold him in some regard and don't think of him as mediocre.
Mediocre is Alan Pardew,Brian Laws or Gordon Strachan,not Roy Hodgson.

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by daswonder » 15 Dec 2010 17:27

Ideal The problem for Hodgson and Liverpool is that they have a group of players that:
-defense is used to man marking, and playing 2-3 DMC's to protect them

Hodgson wants:
-zonal marking for the defenders (if you don't know what it is, look it up. It's the modern way successful teams play.)


It's the other way round

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by Scylla » 15 Dec 2010 20:31

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Scylla I didn't realise that being appointed was the mark of success. I thought that you had to achieve something once you were there. Sir Alex must be gutted he's wasted so much winning football matches.


Er...you were talking about mediocre.
In my book to be appointed by Inter twice,drag the Swiss national side up from a nonentity,manage other national sides as well as 3 sides in the Premier league suggests to me that a lot of people in world football hold him in some regard and don't think of him as mediocre.
Mediocre is Alan Pardew,Brian Laws or Gordon Strachan,not Roy Hodgson.


It does depend upon the standards by which he is being judged. I get the impression that Roy sees himself as a major football figure. Presumably that is what he aspired to at Inter and now aspires to at Liverpool. By those standards I'm staying with mediocre. In fact every time I see him I burst in song: 'Oh he is the very model of a mediocre manager' and collapse in unseemly giggles. Really pisses off Mrs Scylla.

Agree with your little list but that is rather damning him with faint praise. He's another list: Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Spurs. Can you imagine him managing any of those?

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by Ian Royal » 15 Dec 2010 21:08

You don't have to manage one of the biggest clubs in the country / world to be better than a mediocre manager. And if he can get the Liverpool job he certainly could have gotten all the others except possibly Chelsea, and obviously Man Utd & Arsenal, seeing as they don't exactly do much in the way of manager swapping.

There are different skills involved in managing really big sides. Maybe he's not the right man for a big job like that, but he's hardly mediocre by any stretch of the imagination.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL

by Zammo » 15 Dec 2010 21:22

I've just watched the worst half of football this season vs Utrecht. Joe Cole virtually playing left back. If I were the LFC owners I wouldn't let Woy take his place in the dug out for the second half.

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by Scylla » 15 Dec 2010 21:36

Ian Royal You don't have to manage one of the biggest clubs in the country / world to be better than a mediocre manager. And if he can get the Liverpool job he certainly could have gotten all the others except possibly Chelsea, and obviously Man Utd & Arsenal, seeing as they don't exactly do much in the way of manager swapping.

There are different skills involved in managing really big sides. Maybe he's not the right man for a big job like that, but he's hardly mediocre by any stretch of the imagination.


Let us imagine that there exists a bus daring enough to have run over Sir Alex last summer(thankyou Lord Peter - save Papereyes the trouble). You really think that Utd would have rushed out and offered the job to Roy?

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL

by Royal Rother » 15 Dec 2010 21:39

Terrible terrible stuff from Liverpool. Worse than watching England. Just.

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