Back from the Game - Derby

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Re: Back from the Game - Derby

by facaldaqui » 20 Dec 2010 18:21

brendywendy tbf im sick of being the self righteous types whose players dont go down when clipped/pulled back and am more than happy for a player to do so when it happens. everyone else does.
every one of longs" dives" was a s a result of being clipped or pulled back, therefore legitimate. therefore not a dive at all.


I think if I was scenting a goal and someone tried to trip me, I'd carry on if I could, because I might think I can score. But Long might not think he can score.

I often suspect Shane of diving, only to find out later that he was indeed fouled. I'm not aware of an occasion when he has dived without contact.

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Re: Back from the Game - Derby

by Ian Royal » 20 Dec 2010 18:26

Yep, you won't see Long go down often with an actual non-contact dive, and his tumbles aren't very theatrical. But touch him in the box ( :lol: - sorry) or when he's away down the wing and it's time to see a set piece.

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Re: Back from the Game - Derby

by Snowball » 20 Dec 2010 19:59

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brendywendy tbf im sick of being the self righteous types whose players dont go down when clipped/pulled back and am more than happy for a player to do so when it happens. everyone else does.
every one of longs" dives" was a s a result of being clipped or pulled back, therefore legitimate. therefore not a dive at all.


I think if I was scenting a goal and someone tried to trip me, I'd carry on if I could, because I might think I can score. But Long might not think he can score.

I often suspect Shane of diving, only to find out later that he was indeed fouled. I'm not aware of an occasion when he has dived without contact.


Yup

Has he ever been booked for simulation? I don't think so

And with two VG penalty-takers, getting the pen is a much stronger option than a shot

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Re: Back from the Game - Derby

by EASTENDER MARKY » 20 Dec 2010 20:45

Anyone got or know of a picture of the away support from saturday?

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Re: Back from the Game - Derby

by PEARCEY » 20 Dec 2010 21:44

brendywendy tbf im sick of being the self righteous types whose players dont go down when clipped/pulled back and am more than happy for a player to do so when it happens. everyone else does.
every one of longs" dives" was a s a result of being clipped or pulled back, therefore legitimate. therefore not a dive at all.



You don't have to fall down like a dying swan every time you get clipped or pulled back. Long is going to end up being considered a "diver". He went down too easily with the barest of contact from Barker in the second-half.


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Re: Back from the Game - Derby

by pea » 20 Dec 2010 21:59

PEARCEY
brendywendy tbf im sick of being the self righteous types whose players dont go down when clipped/pulled back and am more than happy for a player to do so when it happens. everyone else does.
every one of longs" dives" was a s a result of being clipped or pulled back, therefore legitimate. therefore not a dive at all.



You don't have to fall down like a dying swan every time you get clipped or pulled back. Long is going to end up being considered a "diver". He went down too easily with the barest of contact from Barker in the second-half.


Considered a diver by who? Any referee will see the slow motion replay of all the fouls on him and see that the ref made the right decision. Who cares what the opposition fans think, especially if they go home watch the replays and feel stupid.

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Re: Back from the Game - Derby

by Compo's Hat » 26 Dec 2010 06:17

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RG30 Left West Reading just after 9am with hanbags_harris and Compo's Hat and decided to go M4 then A34 route. Probably 45 minutes - an hour later later we hadn't reached Didcot so decided to catch the train. A train from Didcot to Oxford proved easy enough before we endured a 45 minute wait at Oxford which meant we didn't leave until 12:20. Train arrived into Birmingham New Street around 1:45pm, but more delays meant our Glasgow bound train didn't leave on time so we got a slower train which got us into Derby around 2:58. Fortunately for us, a guy (and a Derby fan) in the carriage heard about our day and said he would give us a lift straight to the ground so thanks Richard and in the end we only missed the first two or three minutes 8)

Game itself was fairly even, we had our fair share of chances as did Derby. Feds was in outstanding form and clearly MOTM. Long led the line really well and his 2nd was was a welcome sight. As bad was Bywater was trying to go for a ball he wasn't going to make, Long done excellently to head home. Good displays from Harte, Legiertwood so delighted with the win after all the effort.

As for the journey back, there was a direct train from Derby to Reading about 17:50 which decided to stop running at Birmingham New Street which was :| :evil: :evil: all round as we had another hour wait before leaving around 8:30pm. Probably back in Oxford just before 10pm and back to pick up hanbags car about 10:15pm. Long old journey, commiserations to those who got stuck but we made the right call in the end.


Considering I was so under the weather and have been since Wednesday I would seriously consider doing that again - but I'd probably still do it anyway. 8.45am leaving Shinfield, irresponsibly over the limit after a skinful of Ringwood Brewery's Fortyniner the night before. Compo's Hat and RG30 picked up, 20mph down the A4 to J12, onto the motorway and a steady 40 in the outside lane. A34 was slower, and slowing, and my wipers were starting to freeze so not clearing the screen. Slow speed coupled with annoying wipers coupled with ever intensifying snowfall and I made the suggestion of catching the train. Kudos to RG30 and Compo for paying the day's parking fare - £4.10. We aimed for the 1055 I believe, but just missed it, so jumped on a train at 1120, got into Oxford ready for our connection 20 or so minutes later. 1230 came around and finally a heavily delayed Manchester Piccadilly train arrived - the choice was that one to Birmingham NS, or two Newcastle trains direct to Derby, one heavily delayed and one only slightly, but we decided to get the Piccadilly train which went the Coventry/Birmingham International route. Happy days however, as a points failure at Leamington meant that we could only go straight on to Warwick, and not turn right up to Coventry. More delays at New Street, eventually jumping on a train at 1425 or so, which got into Derby at 1458. Cracking gesture from the old boy on the train, Richard, who gave us the lift. Out of his motor, running to the away end, got in just in time to see Derby hit the post on three minutes.

Half decent game of football, a clearly rock hard pitch ensured that errors were made. Defensively suspect as ever were Reading, but in attack we were looking very dangerous all game. Federici MOTM by a nose from Long :shock: who could and probably should have had a hat-trick. Derby will cause problems for most teams, they clearly showed why they were top scorers at home and on another day we could have shipped a shedload, but we rode our luck. On the flip side Derby can also consider themselves lucky not to have shipped a hatful as well as we had some glorious opportunities as well, difference was Federici was made to work whereas Bywater was rarely troubled.

Journey back - freezing cold. Spent about an hour waiting for a train that went all the way back to Reading (not that I needed to, I needed Oxford), only for it to be hit by delays outside Birmingham NS, and to then be terminated there. Utterly unbelievable decision, as if the train company couldn't inconvenience their already inconvenienced customers and stick to their obligations and provide a full service. More freezing cold on the platforms of New Street with Kebe, Long, Antonio, Khizanishvili and Karacan, Bournemouth train eventually pulled in, First Class upgrade paid for* decimated the carriage toilet with the fruits of the previous night's labour, off at Oxford ready for a quick change to Didcot. Next worry was being able to get out of the car park but the trooper of a motor I own rinsed the slope out 8) In other words, yesterday, FGW were winners, CrossCountry were utterly woeful though.

Knackered factor 20 when I got back. It was worth it though.



A few photos from the day.



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Re: Back from the Game - Derby

by Hampshire Royal » 26 Dec 2010 07:22

Is that Long in the last photo? Blimey, if it is he looks about fifteen!!

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Re: Back from the Game - Derby

by Svlad Cjelli » 26 Dec 2010 13:25

Hampshire Royal Is that Long in the last photo? Blimey, if it is he looks about fifteen!!


The train was right in front of him but he missed it :wink:


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