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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by Royal Rother » 13 Jan 2011 20:22

I thought he had his best game in a while.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by Victor Meldrew » 13 Jan 2011 20:24

Royal Rother He is one of the better English players but has been hugely over-rated. World class? Do me a bloody favour. Except for his diving, I'll give him that; there are few in world football better in that department.


Nobody said he was "world class" just the best of British.
The two are very different as we have had so few "world class" players in the last 40 years if any.
See world cup records.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by Victor Meldrew » 13 Jan 2011 20:28

Mr Angry
Big Foot King Kenny :lol:


Who is going to be their Messiah now?

Cilla Black?

Tarby?

:lol:


You're a bit out of date as those two are adopted southerners.
Now it will be John Bishop or Ricky Tomlinson and Ricky shades it because of his international football management experience. :wink:

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by frimmers3 » 13 Jan 2011 20:38

how long is it before a collision on a certain motorway(let's pretend it is the m62) is referred to as a "dalglish"?

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by Victor Meldrew » 13 Jan 2011 20:45

Ark Royal Jeez, I have seen Blackpool play better than that and they still had more than enough to beat 'Pewl. They were dire. To think that Raul Meireles cost the Scousers TWENTY THREE times as much as Blackpool paid for the superb Charlie Adams. :shock:

On that performance, Liverpool are certainly bad enough to go down.


Charlie Adam-if he continues with his form shown so far this season he could well be Player of the year.
There are just so few ball-playing midfielders in English football today-most teams go for power players rather than artists.
A shame really and one of the many reasons why we don't win world cups.


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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by bobbybottler » 13 Jan 2011 20:51

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Ark Royal Jeez, I have seen Blackpool play better than that and they still had more than enough to beat 'Pewl. They were dire. To think that Raul Meireles cost the Scousers TWENTY THREE times as much as Blackpool paid for the superb Charlie Adams. :shock:

On that performance, Liverpool are certainly bad enough to go down.


Charlie Adam-if he continues with his form shown so far this season he could well be Player of the year.
There are just so few ball-playing midfielders in English football today-most teams go for power players rather than artists.
A shame really and one of the many reasons why we don't win world cups.

I was going to post similar in response to Ark - plenty of good athletes around but so few players appear to be able to trap a ball and pass it.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by AthleticoSpizz » 13 Jan 2011 21:52

The sacking of Hodgson was a pathetic decision this season

Liverpool are now getting what they asked for ..........Dalgleish

Henceforth

a second rate and division team...waiting for a Shankley to come along and lift them


Past history and Premier/Sky football....not always the best football

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by Royal Rother » 13 Jan 2011 22:31

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Royal Rother He is one of the better English players but has been hugely over-rated. World class? Do me a bloody favour. Except for his diving, I'll give him that; there are few in world football better in that department.


Nobody said he was "world class" just the best of British.
The two are very different as we have had so few "world class" players in the last 40 years if any.
See world cup records.

Sorry, I wasn't suggesting you had said it specifically but deluded folk have been saying he's world class for years.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by SLAMMED » 13 Jan 2011 23:41

I can't see Dalglish doing anything more with the set of players he's got than Hodgson did.

Maybe the reason they are playing badly is their players...


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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by AthleticoSpizz » 13 Jan 2011 23:42

SLAMMED I can't see Dalglish doing anything more with the set of players he's got than Hodgson did.

Maybe the reason they are playing badly is their players...
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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by AthleticoSpizz » 13 Jan 2011 23:55

motivation?


according to Talk Sport....they now have St. Dalglish

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by philM » 14 Jan 2011 08:45

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SLAMMED I can't see Dalglish doing anything more with the set of players he's got than Hodgson did.

Maybe the reason they are playing badly is their players...
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There was a good article in the Sunday Times last week questioning why clubs don't seem to let the manager sack under-performing players rather than always sacking the manager.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by Hoop Blah » 14 Jan 2011 10:12

Royal Rother His long passing is very much hit and miss.


It's not really though. I had this discussion with Wax Jacket before, I think, the last England game.

Gerrard can be a little sloppy with the short stuff and obviously isn't going to get a 100% completion rate on long passes, but he's still very good at it. Up there with most. The difference with Gerrard is that usually he looks to play his long passes quickly and that makes it a little more difficult to perfect.

He isn't the same kind of player as a Xavi, Alonso or Inniesta. You can't compare what they do because it's so different. That's why he operated so well in the same midfield as Alonso and Mascherano, they won and kept the ball and Gerrard was used to his strength of timing his powerful runs into and beyond the back four and making the most of his long range shooting.

He was, perhaps still is (but that's debatable whilst he's dragged down by what's happening at Liverpool), World Class at what he does. What he does is just different to some of those you'd like to compare him to.


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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by Hoop Blah » 14 Jan 2011 10:26

philM There was a good article in the Sunday Times last week questioning why clubs don't seem to let the manager sack under-performing players rather than always sacking the manager.


It's frustrating to see so many managers get the boot as they do but players never getting the same treatment.

I didn't see the article but I'd suggest the main reasons are that the players usually earn more, are saleable assets and due to the nature of sport those poor performances can soon be turned round into good ones.

Getting rid of a £2m asset and having to pay to replace him is bad enough. To then see that asset go elsewhere and perform well whilst his replacement may be even worse isn't the best way to run a healthy business.

The manager should have an element of control over how the players play. With that control comes accountability.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by 6ft Kerplunk » 14 Jan 2011 11:10

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philM There was a good article in the Sunday Times last week questioning why clubs don't seem to let the manager sack under-performing players rather than always sacking the manager.


It's frustrating to see so many managers get the boot as they do but players never getting the same treatment.


Because the manager can drop under-performing players. You can't do that with managers.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by Wax Jacket » 14 Jan 2011 12:15

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Royal Rother His long passing is very much hit and miss.


It's not really though. I had this discussion with Wax Jacket before, I think, the last England game.

Gerrard can be a little sloppy with the short stuff and obviously isn't going to get a 100% completion rate on long passes, but he's still very good at it. Up there with most. The difference with Gerrard is that usually he looks to play his long passes quickly and that makes it a little more difficult to perfect.



yes it would've been me :mrgreen:

it's the short stuff in front of the back four that's the problem. keep him in the opposition half and I agree he's good. he's a liability in his own half.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by cmonurz » 14 Jan 2011 12:59

Then perhaps blame Hodgson. For all his faults, Benitez at least recognised Gerrard's worth as an attacking player, and used him 'in the hole' behind Torres.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by Ginger Ninjas » 14 Jan 2011 13:31

cmonurz Then perhaps blame Hodgson. For all his faults, Benitez at least recognised Gerrard's worth as an attacking player, and used him 'in the hole' behind Torres.


But Benitez had Alonso and Mascherano behind Gerrard - which isn't quite the same as Lucas and Meireles - so Hodgson thought he had to play Gerrard deeper

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by SLAMMED » 16 Jan 2011 16:24

Liverpool 2-2 Everton

King Ken gets his first point.

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Re: LOLiverpooLOL - too good to go down, Shirley?

by Skyline » 16 Jan 2011 17:34

I wouldn't call that a 'lucky' penalty call. Howard clearly brought the guy down.

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