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Re: Cardiff punishment

by Ian Royal » 22 Feb 2011 22:19

SpaceCruiser I see that the Welsh FA are being slow in getting round to investigating Cardiff, and yet the FA have punished us already. What's their bloody excuse?!

EDIT: It's staggering when you consider the game was 3 weeks ago and the Welsh FA don't seem to have done anything.


Might have a little something to do with Legs putting his hand up and admitting it and Cardiff defending themselves & Chopra.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by glass half full » 22 Feb 2011 22:26

If found guilty :roll: :roll: :roll: , Cardiff players should be fined double for wasting FAW time.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by RoyalBlue » 22 Feb 2011 22:51

glass half full If found guilty :roll: :roll: :roll: , Cardiff players should be fined double for wasting FAW time.



So that will be a whole tenner then! :twisted: :twisted:

If they're not going to come under the control of the English FA then they should stay over their side of the sodding bridge and keep out of the English leagues.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by Svlad Cjelli » 23 Feb 2011 10:28

Here's an idea.

Why not wait until the FAW have the hearing about Cardiff and impose punishment before condemning how lenient it is.

Having said that, it *will* probably be less than ours becuase we're persistant offenders of late, and were under a suspended sentence already for several previous fracas.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by Ian Royal » 23 Feb 2011 11:53

Don't be daft Dirkers... that would be sensible.


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Re: Cardiff punishment

by Wycombe Royal » 23 Feb 2011 12:23

Their hearing is on the 16th March.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by RoyalBlue » 23 Feb 2011 13:14

Svlad Cjelli Here's an idea.

Why not wait until the FAW have the hearing about Cardiff and impose punishment before condemning how lenient it is.

Having said that, it *will* probably be less than ours becuase we're persistant offenders of late, and were under a suspended sentence already for several previous fracas.


And Cardiff are without previous sin? :shock:

We'll wait and see whether the FAW leopards have changed their spots.

Whilst recognising that pace of life might be a bit slower in the valleys, how long does it take to hold a hearing?!!

Still think it fundamentally wrong and unfair that you have two different national bodies governing conduct in the same league. It's bound to increase the risk of inconsistency.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by Svlad Cjelli » 23 Feb 2011 13:16

RoyalBlue Still think it fundamentally wrong and unfair that you have two different national bodies governing conduct in the same league. It's bound to increase the risk of inconsistency.


In an adiea world, yes, but we're not - this is a historical accident, and the impact of changing it would be much worse - things like the amalgamation of the 4 Home FAs being forced by and the loss of their IFAB places.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by rhroyal » 23 Feb 2011 17:26

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The club shot themselves in the foot then didn't they! Relying on 1 player is never the way to go!

To be fair in a tight league like this it can be hard not to rely upon the 1 or 2 players of real quality you have, especially in our position. It's not like we can bring in a team full of top class individuals like Chelsea and Man City and achievements such as 05/06 are very rare.

The top 2 or 3 teams are an exception to this rule; the teams making up the rest of the play-offs got away with it.


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Re: Cardiff punishment

by PEARCEY » 23 Feb 2011 19:06

Svlad Cjelli Here's an idea.

Why not wait until the FAW have the hearing about Cardiff and impose punishment before condemning how lenient it is.

Having said that, it *will* probably be less than ours becuase we're persistant offenders of late, and were under a suspended sentence already for several previous fracas.



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Re: Cardiff punishment

by PEARCEY » 23 Feb 2011 19:07

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Svlad Cjelli Here's an idea.

Why not wait until the FAW have the hearing about Cardiff and impose punishment before condemning how lenient it is.

Having said that, it *will* probably be less than ours becuase we're persistant offenders of late, and were under a suspended sentence already for several previous fracas.


And Cardiff are without previous sin? :shock:

We'll wait and see whether the FAW leopards have changed their spots.

Whilst recognising that pace of life might be a bit slower in the valleys, how long does it take to hold a hearing?!!

Still think it fundamentally wrong and unfair that you have two different national bodies governing conduct in the same league. It's bound to increase the risk of inconsistency.



I didn't realise Cardiff was in the valleys.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by SpaceCruiser » 23 Feb 2011 19:18

Wycombe Royal Their hearing is on the 16th March.


Great, a full six weeks after the offence and meanwhile they're continuing to pick up the points as we struggled without Leigertwood for 3 games.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by Ian Royal » 24 Feb 2011 17:10

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Wycombe Royal Their hearing is on the 16th March.


Great, a full six weeks after the offence and meanwhile they're continuing to pick up the points as we struggled without Leigertwood for 3 games.


So blame us and Leigterwood for not contesting it then you numpty.


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Re: Cardiff punishment

by Royal Lady » 24 Feb 2011 17:14

Of course, Cardiff will almost certainly lose one of their key players in what is the most important part of the season for them and could make the difference between them going up or not....

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by Svlad Cjelli » 25 Feb 2011 12:06

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Wycombe Royal Their hearing is on the 16th March.


Great, a full six weeks after the offence and meanwhile they're continuing to pick up the points as we struggled without Leigertwood for 3 games.


So we won't continue to pick up the points later whilst they have a player suspended?

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by Tilehurst End » 25 Feb 2011 13:02

Royal Lady Of course, Cardiff will almost certainly lose one of their key players in what is the most important part of the season for them and could make the difference between them going up or not....


They also lose Ramsey after this weekend.

Sad isn't it :cry:

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by andrew1957 » 28 Feb 2011 22:27

Today referees are saying that Wayne Rooney cannot be punished on video evidence because the referee did not punish him at the time and FIFA do not like dealing with issues after the event by video evidence.

I was not at the Cardiff match but I understood that Leigertwood was not punished by the referee at the time so I assume it WAS as a result of video evidence. A few seasons ago Lita was also banned for 3 games after the event because the referee missed an incident.

Is this yet another example of double standards for the top players as compared to the rest?

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by SpaceCruiser » 28 Feb 2011 23:14

andrew1957 Today referees are saying that Wayne Rooney cannot be punished on video evidence because the referee did not punish him at the time and FIFA do not like dealing with issues after the event by video evidence.

I was not at the Cardiff match but I understood that Leigertwood was not punished by the referee at the time so I assume it WAS as a result of video evidence. A few seasons ago Lita was also banned for 3 games after the event because the referee missed an incident.

Is this yet another example of double standards for the top players as compared to the rest?


Yeah, Lita got banned for a headbutt that Sky Sports picked up on and Graham Poll watched it afterwards. Remember that this was against Charlton and Alan Pardew had an agreement with Poll to be informed if he was about to send Song off that he could sub him before that happened. Graham fecking Poll. Yes, that man.

And Song is still a dirty player.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by prostak » 28 Feb 2011 23:19

andrew1957 Today referees are saying that Wayne Rooney cannot be punished on video evidence because the referee did not punish him at the time and FIFA do not like dealing with issues after the event by video evidence.

I was not at the Cardiff match but I understood that Leigertwood was not punished by the referee at the time so I assume it WAS as a result of video evidence. A few seasons ago Lita was also banned for 3 games after the event because the referee missed an incident.

Is this yet another example of double standards for the top players as compared to the rest?


No. The law is that any incident which the referee has seen and dealt with to his satisfaction cannot be re-evaluated and re-punished by a video panel later. I don't know where you read that Clattenburg did not punish him - the very point of this is that he did so when he awarded a free kick. He can't retrospectively decide to issue a red card any more than a panel can.

Stop looking for conspiracy where there is none - it might be a stupid rule that doesn't allow exceptions for serious violent conduct, but on the other hand it would be a bad thing to undermine the referee's match-day authority.

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Re: Cardiff punishment

by Kitson12 » 01 Mar 2011 00:14

What about Ben Thatcher on Pedro Mendes? Punished on pitch with a yellow card, then banned for 5 games (?). So how is that different? Because Rooney could have done the same amount of damage to McCarthy!

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