CeLOLtic

[FiNeRaIn]

lmao this is one of the " bookings" 24 secs in...not within a yard of touching him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aM8xBiAVio

[who are ya?]

Having said that, the EPL can be just as bad!

Not quite as bad as calling the Premier League the EPL though.

[handbags_harris]

Just watched the highlights on the Beeb main football page and, allowing for the probable extras not shown, quite frankly Neil Lennon looks to be an absolute disgrace. He has absolutely no reason to go over to the Rangers side of the touchline, and one can only wonder what he says to Diouf. And at the end, the embrace and then the almost instantaneous complete loss of control. Seriously, if he doesn't get a massive touchline ban then the SPL's disciplinary procedures can only be branded a laughing stock.

You take a look at Lennon's behaviour during Old Firms and you simply cannot fal to take into account that he was brought up in a heavily republican area of Northern Ireland and naturally grew up as a Celtic fan. Unfortunately it is fairly clear to me, based on what I have seen with my own eyes (not just in the 3 minute video on the Beeb, but historically with Lennon during Old Form Derbies) that Lennon not only bears a resentment towards Rangers the football club, but also against Rangers' Protestant leanings. If you want evidence just look for the video on Youtube where Lennon refers to a Rangers player as a "dirty Orange Bastard". This, to me, is a sad indictment against a man who represents the very same Celtic Football Club that purports to be fighting a battle against ingrained sectarianism within the Old Firm.

Footnote: These are my own views, formed from evidence that I myself have seen with no influence from other sources. I have no ties to either club, and in fact as a kid actually preferred Celtic to Rangers (mainly because Celtic kept on losing to Rangers and I quite like rooting for the underdog). Rangers Football Club is by no means innocent in the religious side of Scottish football, but with the current members of Rangers hierarchy you will not see a man who, in a similar position to what Lennon is to Celtic, represents Rangers who is so obviously prejudiced as much as Neil Lennon clearly is.

[Gus the teenage cow]

just lol at the last page or so of this thread, only rangers forums and chelsea forums share the views of the last page or so, neutral forums all paint a different picture but to be honest i am not surprised by the bitterness and vitriol of some here

laughable stuff

so celtic are getting the decisions now, just last week motherwell got a penalty for nothing against celtic, the count is now at 29, the number of dodgy penalties/offsides or sendings off going against celtic in just one season and it's not finished yet, yet rangers have a bitch and a moan about the sendings off - fair enough that's part of the game but they wouldn't have scored if they were still playing now against celtic, no creativity in that team, just set up to stifle and kick because celtic mullered them last time......whittaker sending off was harsh, bougherra second yellow, he got the ball although first yellow of his could have been a red, most neutrals say the ref handled the game well.............celtic are a better football team, simple as that, hence rangers tried to make in into a battle, celtic weren't having any of it, just three bookings, tried to play the game, all those hating on lennon are accusing him of exactly what they are demonstrating themselves, hate-filled bigotry but they are too dumb to notice the irony, he does let his temper get the better of him at times and needs to calm down a bit, a few games in the stands will give him time to reflect on his outbursts..........the reason why there was a confrontation with diouf is because diouf (who almost everybody in english football who has played with him or against him consider him a huge oxf*rd) shoulder charged the celtic physio on the pitch, he then went to the celtic bench after the whittaker sending off, he was sent off at the end of the game and refused to leave the pitch, the police even told him to stop inflamming the situation but he continued regardless, at the end of the game mccoist muttered something to lennon that set him off, there are rumours about what he said but who knows? did what he said justify lennon's reaction? who knows?
all i know is celtic have been dominat over rangers in the last four games and ranger's discipline was terrible last night, these are the facts, I am not going to engage in the predictable bigoted hatred that many some to come on here to direct at celtic, that speaks volumes about those people.....I am merely analysing the game, I think the reason why your skin is crawling daniella is not because of my posts but because rangers are being consistently outplayed by celtic at the moment and on top of night they also lost their heads last night, you lost the match so you are trying to win the propoganda war, so all the celtic haters can call lennon a ginger irish bollox all they want, they can go on about tims and terrorists and republicanism and cheating all they like (again without noticing the irony, if i was to get into the nasty stuff surrounding rangers this post would go on quite a while but i'll leave it)......it's merely an exercise in futility, in trying to find something, anything to blame for the fact celtic are dominating them at the moment and are vastly superior, the fans can't take it and going by last night's showing, the players and management can't take it either....so carry on with the anti-celtic vitriol coz it's a sure sign that celtic are on top

having said all that, the quality of football in the spl in general is not very good and the old firm games are making the news for the wrong reasons at the moment, for the rucks and hatred and sendings-off and so on rather than the quality of football, some enjoy that, i don't, i want to see a proper football match..................................I also admit that celtic share a part of the blame for all the bitterness and hatred in the fixture (do the rangers fans accept same?).....i would accept games being played behind closes doors for a seaosn (would the rangers fans?)......if the rangers fans think the refs are so bad then would they welcome referees from other countries or maybe an independent disciplinary commision again hiring people from aborad (i would be delighted with this, would the rangers fans?)

so hate all you like, and the others will hate back and the cycle will continue and I'll admit I have got involved in that stuff but it's far far more satisfying to win a game of football than a game of hate so hate away but the result remains the same

[AndyRFC]

ITS A CONSPIRACY

[Big Foot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIGJfbBBC8Q

Just LOL

[No Fixed Abode]

BUt Gus, Lennon is a complete pr1ck to be fair.

[prostak]

I can't work out which is the worse prize out of SPL Championship and 'which is the least shit of Catholicism and Protestantism'.

[Gus the teenage cow]

BUt Gus, Lennon is a complete pr1ck to be fair.

he shouldn't get involved kes, you are right but there are a lot of kants who are managers, look at ferguson, sometimes a manager needs a bit of dog in him but i understand that this can mae him a hated figure

[prostak]

sometimes a manager needs a bit of dog in him

Lonely at the top?

[AndyRFC]

just lol at the last page or so of this thread, only rangers forums and chelsea forums share the views of the last page or so, neutral forums all paint a different picture but to be honest i am not surprised by the bitterness and vitriol of some here

laughable stuff

so celtic are getting the decisions now, just last week motherwell got a penalty for nothing against celtic, the count is now at 29, the number of dodgy penalties/offsides or sendings off going against celtic in just one season and it's not finished yet, yet rangers have a bitch and a moan about the sendings off - fair enough that's part of the game but they wouldn't have scored if they were still playing now against celtic, no creativity in that team, just set up to stifle and kick because celtic mullered them last time......whittaker sending off was harsh, bougherra second yellow, he got the ball although first yellow of his could have been a red, most neutrals say the ref handled the game well.............celtic are a better football team, simple as that, hence rangers tried to make in into a battle, celtic weren't having any of it, just three bookings, tried to play the game, all those hating on lennon are accusing him of exactly what they are demonstrating themselves, hate-filled bigotry but they are too dumb to notice the irony, he does let his temper get the better of him at times and needs to calm down a bit, a few games in the stands will give him time to reflect on his outbursts..........the reason why there was a confrontation with diouf is because diouf (who almost everybody in english football who has played with him or against him consider him a huge oxf*rd) shoulder charged the celtic physio on the pitch, he then went to the celtic bench after the whittaker sending off, he was sent off at the end of the game and refused to leave the pitch, the police even told him to stop inflamming the situation but he continued regardless, at the end of the game mccoist muttered something to lennon that set him off, there are rumours about what he said but who knows? did what he said justify lennon's reaction? who knows?
all i know is celtic have been dominat over rangers in the last four games and ranger's discipline was terrible last night, these are the facts, I am not going to engage in the predictable bigoted hatred that many some to come on here to direct at celtic, that speaks volumes about those people.....I am merely analysing the game, I think the reason why your skin is crawling daniella is not because of my posts but because rangers are being consistently outplayed by celtic at the moment and on top of night they also lost their heads last night, you lost the match so you are trying to win the propoganda war, so all the celtic haters can call lennon a ginger irish bollox all they want, they can go on about tims and terrorists and republicanism and cheating all they like (again without noticing the irony, if i was to get into the nasty stuff surrounding rangers this post would go on quite a while but i'll leave it)......it's merely an exercise in futility, in trying to find something, anything to blame for the fact celtic are dominating them at the moment and are vastly superior, the fans can't take it and going by last night's showing, the players and management can't take it either....so carry on with the anti-celtic vitriol coz it's a sure sign that celtic are on top

having said all that, the quality of football in the spl in general is not very good and the old firm games are making the news for the wrong reasons at the moment, for the rucks and hatred and sendings-off and so on rather than the quality of football, some enjoy that, i don't, i want to see a proper football match..................................I also admit that celtic share a part of the blame for all the bitterness and hatred in the fixture (do the rangers fans accept same?).....i would accept games being played behind closes doors for a seaosn (would the rangers fans?)......if the rangers fans think the refs are so bad then would they welcome referees from other countries or maybe an independent disciplinary commision again hiring people from aborad (i would be delighted with this, would the rangers fans?)

so hate all you like, and the others will hate back and the cycle will continue and I'll admit I have got involved in that stuff but it's far far more satisfying to win a game of football than a game of hate so hate away but the result remains the same

24 hours on now so I thought I'd re-evaluate. I dont know whether to be dissapointed that the whole confrontations between McCoist and Lennon has slightly been swept under the carpet, I'm sure there will be some more fall out after the "summit" next week. There isn't a point to me defending some of the behaviour that either club showed last night, not just Rangers. I think the ref got a few things wrong, firstly with the Whitaker first booking. As a Referee you've got to set an example - and you set a presidence, I was irate moments later that a Celtic player wasnt booked for a similar incident and then the lad gets sent off - the replay I saw hmm, I dont know, the lad hadnt made a challenge other then those two. Rangers, and I'm putting this out there as an excuse for their weak performance really werent going to foray much into the other half, few injury problems and suspensions to boot! The E-HD flash point seemed to be doing what he was intilted to do - head to the bench, have a drink get instructions and then all you see is Ally head off to find Lennon. If Lennon has (as rumoured) racially abused the lad, then I'm sure Gus (and as many Celtic fans have) would admit thats plain wrong and no need for that or sectarian abuse. In the Tunnel at half time another flash point seemed to be caused by Mjallaby. The John Fleck booking was just incredible, great dive. On to the second half, the guy I was watching this with was angered that Papac was dead on the goal line when the goal was scored, you cant stop the game there, its split second between then and Wilson getting the ball back! I think the ref inflamed the end of game antics by the red to Boughera and soured more of a bad night for Gers, who couldnt muster up a chance.

The SPL is a dreadful league to watch, some of it very dull and uninspiring. Gone are the days where the Old Firm attracted top names in World Football to the clubs, which has also affected the other teams in the league. Aberdeen is full of League 1 standard players, I also would like to see a proper but passionate football match without the need to wave an imaginary yellow card in front of the referees face. I dont know if playing the games behind closed doors would help at all. As for foreign referees? I'm undecided- why not share the English refs for SPL as well and vice-versa giving some of these other refs the chance to ref other big games. Imagine how Howard Webb would've handled that game last night?

Something has to give. It has to. Correct me if I'm wrong but away fans have been banned from both grounds before on occasions, and I'm sure it happens in Holland. This is an unprecedented season of 7 OF games, Plod must've been pulling their hair out when the draw was made. Things may well change with a new concept to the league.

Both teams arent great sides, but have some terriffic individuals within them.

[Gus the teenage cow]

just lol at the last page or so of this thread, only rangers forums and chelsea forums share the views of the last page or so, neutral forums all paint a different picture but to be honest i am not surprised by the bitterness and vitriol of some here

laughable stuff

so celtic are getting the decisions now, just last week motherwell got a penalty for nothing against celtic, the count is now at 29, the number of dodgy penalties/offsides or sendings off going against celtic in just one season and it's not finished yet, yet rangers have a bitch and a moan about the sendings off - fair enough that's part of the game but they wouldn't have scored if they were still playing now against celtic, no creativity in that team, just set up to stifle and kick because celtic mullered them last time......whittaker sending off was harsh, bougherra second yellow, he got the ball although first yellow of his could have been a red, most neutrals say the ref handled the game well.............celtic are a better football team, simple as that, hence rangers tried to make in into a battle, celtic weren't having any of it, just three bookings, tried to play the game, all those hating on lennon are accusing him of exactly what they are demonstrating themselves, hate-filled bigotry but they are too dumb to notice the irony, he does let his temper get the better of him at times and needs to calm down a bit, a few games in the stands will give him time to reflect on his outbursts..........the reason why there was a confrontation with diouf is because diouf (who almost everybody in english football who has played with him or against him consider him a huge oxf*rd) shoulder charged the celtic physio on the pitch, he then went to the celtic bench after the whittaker sending off, he was sent off at the end of the game and refused to leave the pitch, the police even told him to stop inflamming the situation but he continued regardless, at the end of the game mccoist muttered something to lennon that set him off, there are rumours about what he said but who knows? did what he said justify lennon's reaction? who knows?
all i know is celtic have been dominat over rangers in the last four games and ranger's discipline was terrible last night, these are the facts, I am not going to engage in the predictable bigoted hatred that many some to come on here to direct at celtic, that speaks volumes about those people.....I am merely analysing the game, I think the reason why your skin is crawling daniella is not because of my posts but because rangers are being consistently outplayed by celtic at the moment and on top of night they also lost their heads last night, you lost the match so you are trying to win the propoganda war, so all the celtic haters can call lennon a ginger irish bollox all they want, they can go on about tims and terrorists and republicanism and cheating all they like (again without noticing the irony, if i was to get into the nasty stuff surrounding rangers this post would go on quite a while but i'll leave it)......it's merely an exercise in futility, in trying to find something, anything to blame for the fact celtic are dominating them at the moment and are vastly superior, the fans can't take it and going by last night's showing, the players and management can't take it either....so carry on with the anti-celtic vitriol coz it's a sure sign that celtic are on top

having said all that, the quality of football in the spl in general is not very good and the old firm games are making the news for the wrong reasons at the moment, for the rucks and hatred and sendings-off and so on rather than the quality of football, some enjoy that, i don't, i want to see a proper football match..................................I also admit that celtic share a part of the blame for all the bitterness and hatred in the fixture (do the rangers fans accept same?).....i would accept games being played behind closes doors for a seaosn (would the rangers fans?)......if the rangers fans think the refs are so bad then would they welcome referees from other countries or maybe an independent disciplinary commision again hiring people from aborad (i would be delighted with this, would the rangers fans?)

so hate all you like, and the others will hate back and the cycle will continue and I'll admit I have got involved in that stuff but it's far far more satisfying to win a game of football than a game of hate so hate away but the result remains the same

24 hours on now so I thought I'd re-evaluate. I dont know whether to be dissapointed that the whole confrontations between McCoist and Lennon has slightly been swept under the carpet, I'm sure there will be some more fall out after the "summit" next week. There isn't a point to me defending some of the behaviour that either club showed last night, not just Rangers. I think the ref got a few things wrong, firstly with the Whitaker first booking. As a Referee you've got to set an example - and you set a presidence, I was irate moments later that a Celtic player wasnt booked for a similar incident and then the lad gets sent off - the replay I saw hmm, I dont know, the lad hadnt made a challenge other then those two. Rangers, and I'm putting this out there as an excuse for their weak performance really werent going to foray much into the other half, few injury problems and suspensions to boot! The E-HD flash point seemed to be doing what he was intilted to do - head to the bench, have a drink get instructions and then all you see is Ally head off to find Lennon. If Lennon has (as rumoured) racially abused the lad, then I'm sure Gus (and as many Celtic fans have) would admit thats plain wrong and no need for that or sectarian abuse. In the Tunnel at half time another flash point seemed to be caused by Mjallaby. The John Fleck booking was just incredible, great dive. On to the second half, the guy I was watching this with was angered that Papac was dead on the goal line when the goal was scored, you cant stop the game there, its split second between then and Wilson getting the ball back! I think the ref inflamed the end of game antics by the red to Boughera and soured more of a bad night for Gers, who couldnt muster up a chance.

The SPL is a dreadful league to watch, some of it very dull and uninspiring. Gone are the days where the Old Firm attracted top names in World Football to the clubs, which has also affected the other teams in the league. Aberdeen is full of League 1 standard players, I also would like to see a proper but passionate football match without the need to wave an imaginary yellow card in front of the referees face. I dont know if playing the games behind closed doors would help at all. As for foreign referees? I'm undecided- why not share the English refs for SPL as well and vice-versa giving some of these other refs the chance to ref other big games. Imagine how Howard Webb would've handled that game last night?

Something has to give. It has to. Correct me if I'm wrong but away fans have been banned from both grounds before on occasions, and I'm sure it happens in Holland. This is an unprecedented season of 7 OF games, Plod must've been pulling their hair out when the draw was made. Things may well change with a new concept to the league.

Both teams arent great sides, but have some terriffic individuals within them.

a fair post, we are making progress


what about a merger of the two teams and we take on the best the premier league can offer?

i'm up for that, can you say the same?

[leon]

just lol at the last page or so of this thread, only rangers forums and chelsea forums share the views of the last page or so, neutral forums all paint a different picture but to be honest i am not surprised by the bitterness and vitriol of some here

laughable stuff

so celtic are getting the decisions now, just last week motherwell got a penalty for nothing against celtic, the count is now at 29, the number of dodgy penalties/offsides or sendings off going against celtic in just one season and it's not finished yet, yet rangers have a bitch and a moan about the sendings off - fair enough that's part of the game but they wouldn't have scored if they were still playing now against celtic, no creativity in that team, just set up to stifle and kick because celtic mullered them last time......whittaker sending off was harsh, bougherra second yellow, he got the ball although first yellow of his could have been a red, most neutrals say the ref handled the game well.............celtic are a better football team, simple as that, hence rangers tried to make in into a battle, celtic weren't having any of it, just three bookings, tried to play the game, all those hating on lennon are accusing him of exactly what they are demonstrating themselves, hate-filled bigotry but they are too dumb to notice the irony, he does let his temper get the better of him at times and needs to calm down a bit, a few games in the stands will give him time to reflect on his outbursts..........the reason why there was a confrontation with diouf is because diouf (who almost everybody in english football who has played with him or against him consider him a huge oxf*rd) shoulder charged the celtic physio on the pitch, he then went to the celtic bench after the whittaker sending off, he was sent off at the end of the game and refused to leave the pitch, the police even told him to stop inflamming the situation but he continued regardless, at the end of the game mccoist muttered something to lennon that set him off, there are rumours about what he said but who knows? did what he said justify lennon's reaction? who knows?
all i know is celtic have been dominat over rangers in the last four games and ranger's discipline was terrible last night, these are the facts, I am not going to engage in the predictable bigoted hatred that many some to come on here to direct at celtic, that speaks volumes about those people.....I am merely analysing the game, I think the reason why your skin is crawling daniella is not because of my posts but because rangers are being consistently outplayed by celtic at the moment and on top of night they also lost their heads last night, you lost the match so you are trying to win the propoganda war, so all the celtic haters can call lennon a ginger irish bollox all they want, they can go on about tims and terrorists and republicanism and cheating all they like (again without noticing the irony, if i was to get into the nasty stuff surrounding rangers this post would go on quite a while but i'll leave it)......it's merely an exercise in futility, in trying to find something, anything to blame for the fact celtic are dominating them at the moment and are vastly superior, the fans can't take it and going by last night's showing, the players and management can't take it either....so carry on with the anti-celtic vitriol coz it's a sure sign that celtic are on top

having said all that, the quality of football in the spl in general is not very good and the old firm games are making the news for the wrong reasons at the moment, for the rucks and hatred and sendings-off and so on rather than the quality of football, some enjoy that, i don't, i want to see a proper football match..................................I also admit that celtic share a part of the blame for all the bitterness and hatred in the fixture (do the rangers fans accept same?).....i would accept games being played behind closes doors for a seaosn (would the rangers fans?)......if the rangers fans think the refs are so bad then would they welcome referees from other countries or maybe an independent disciplinary commision again hiring people from aborad (i would be delighted with this, would the rangers fans?)

so hate all you like, and the others will hate back and the cycle will continue and I'll admit I have got involved in that stuff but it's far far more satisfying to win a game of football than a game of hate so hate away but the result remains the same

24 hours on now so I thought I'd re-evaluate. I dont know whether to be dissapointed that the whole confrontations between McCoist and Lennon has slightly been swept under the carpet, I'm sure there will be some more fall out after the "summit" next week. There isn't a point to me defending some of the behaviour that either club showed last night, not just Rangers. I think the ref got a few things wrong, firstly with the Whitaker first booking. As a Referee you've got to set an example - and you set a presidence, I was irate moments later that a Celtic player wasnt booked for a similar incident and then the lad gets sent off - the replay I saw hmm, I dont know, the lad hadnt made a challenge other then those two. Rangers, and I'm putting this out there as an excuse for their weak performance really werent going to foray much into the other half, few injury problems and suspensions to boot! The E-HD flash point seemed to be doing what he was intilted to do - head to the bench, have a drink get instructions and then all you see is Ally head off to find Lennon. If Lennon has (as rumoured) racially abused the lad, then I'm sure Gus (and as many Celtic fans have) would admit thats plain wrong and no need for that or sectarian abuse. In the Tunnel at half time another flash point seemed to be caused by Mjallaby. The John Fleck booking was just incredible, great dive. On to the second half, the guy I was watching this with was angered that Papac was dead on the goal line when the goal was scored, you cant stop the game there, its split second between then and Wilson getting the ball back! I think the ref inflamed the end of game antics by the red to Boughera and soured more of a bad night for Gers, who couldnt muster up a chance.

The SPL is a dreadful league to watch, some of it very dull and uninspiring. Gone are the days where the Old Firm attracted top names in World Football to the clubs, which has also affected the other teams in the league. Aberdeen is full of League 1 standard players, I also would like to see a proper but passionate football match without the need to wave an imaginary yellow card in front of the referees face. I dont know if playing the games behind closed doors would help at all. As for foreign referees? I'm undecided- why not share the English refs for SPL as well and vice-versa giving some of these other refs the chance to ref other big games. Imagine how Howard Webb would've handled that game last night?

Something has to give. It has to. Correct me if I'm wrong but away fans have been banned from both grounds before on occasions, and I'm sure it happens in Holland. This is an unprecedented season of 7 OF games, Plod must've been pulling their hair out when the draw was made. Things may well change with a new concept to the league.

Both teams arent great sides, but have some terriffic individuals within them.

no f*ck off and keep all your sectarian, wife beating bollocks north of the border

[bigmike]

just lol at the last page or so of this thread, only rangers forums and chelsea forums share the views of the last page or so, neutral forums all paint a different picture but to be honest i am not surprised by the bitterness and vitriol of some here

laughable stuff

so celtic are getting the decisions now, just last week motherwell got a penalty for nothing against celtic, the count is now at 29, the number of dodgy penalties/offsides or sendings off going against celtic in just one season and it's not finished yet, yet rangers have a bitch and a moan about the sendings off - fair enough that's part of the game but they wouldn't have scored if they were still playing now against celtic, no creativity in that team, just set up to stifle and kick because celtic mullered them last time......whittaker sending off was harsh, bougherra second yellow, he got the ball although first yellow of his could have been a red, most neutrals say the ref handled the game well.............celtic are a better football team, simple as that, hence rangers tried to make in into a battle, celtic weren't having any of it, just three bookings, tried to play the game, all those hating on lennon are accusing him of exactly what they are demonstrating themselves, hate-filled bigotry but they are too dumb to notice the irony, he does let his temper get the better of him at times and needs to calm down a bit, a few games in the stands will give him time to reflect on his outbursts..........the reason why there was a confrontation with diouf is because diouf (who almost everybody in english football who has played with him or against him consider him a huge oxf*rd) shoulder charged the celtic physio on the pitch, he then went to the celtic bench after the whittaker sending off, he was sent off at the end of the game and refused to leave the pitch, the police even told him to stop inflamming the situation but he continued regardless, at the end of the game mccoist muttered something to lennon that set him off, there are rumours about what he said but who knows? did what he said justify lennon's reaction? who knows?
all i know is celtic have been dominat over rangers in the last four games and ranger's discipline was terrible last night, these are the facts, I am not going to engage in the predictable bigoted hatred that many some to come on here to direct at celtic, that speaks volumes about those people.....I am merely analysing the game, I think the reason why your skin is crawling daniella is not because of my posts but because rangers are being consistently outplayed by celtic at the moment and on top of night they also lost their heads last night, you lost the match so you are trying to win the propoganda war, so all the celtic haters can call lennon a ginger irish bollox all they want, they can go on about tims and terrorists and republicanism and cheating all they like (again without noticing the irony, if i was to get into the nasty stuff surrounding rangers this post would go on quite a while but i'll leave it)......it's merely an exercise in futility, in trying to find something, anything to blame for the fact celtic are dominating them at the moment and are vastly superior, the fans can't take it and going by last night's showing, the players and management can't take it either....so carry on with the anti-celtic vitriol coz it's a sure sign that celtic are on top

having said all that, the quality of football in the spl in general is not very good and the old firm games are making the news for the wrong reasons at the moment, for the rucks and hatred and sendings-off and so on rather than the quality of football, some enjoy that, i don't, i want to see a proper football match..................................I also admit that celtic share a part of the blame for all the bitterness and hatred in the fixture (do the rangers fans accept same?).....i would accept games being played behind closes doors for a seaosn (would the rangers fans?)......if the rangers fans think the refs are so bad then would they welcome referees from other countries or maybe an independent disciplinary commision again hiring people from aborad (i would be delighted with this, would the rangers fans?)

so hate all you like, and the others will hate back and the cycle will continue and I'll admit I have got involved in that stuff but it's far far more satisfying to win a game of football than a game of hate so hate away but the result remains the same

24 hours on now so I thought I'd re-evaluate. I dont know whether to be dissapointed that the whole confrontations between McCoist and Lennon has slightly been swept under the carpet, I'm sure there will be some more fall out after the "summit" next week. There isn't a point to me defending some of the behaviour that either club showed last night, not just Rangers. I think the ref got a few things wrong, firstly with the Whitaker first booking. As a Referee you've got to set an example - and you set a presidence, I was irate moments later that a Celtic player wasnt booked for a similar incident and then the lad gets sent off - the replay I saw hmm, I dont know, the lad hadnt made a challenge other then those two. Rangers, and I'm putting this out there as an excuse for their weak performance really werent going to foray much into the other half, few injury problems and suspensions to boot! The E-HD flash point seemed to be doing what he was intilted to do - head to the bench, have a drink get instructions and then all you see is Ally head off to find Lennon. If Lennon has (as rumoured) racially abused the lad, then I'm sure Gus (and as many Celtic fans have) would admit thats plain wrong and no need for that or sectarian abuse. In the Tunnel at half time another flash point seemed to be caused by Mjallaby. The John Fleck booking was just incredible, great dive. On to the second half, the guy I was watching this with was angered that Papac was dead on the goal line when the goal was scored, you cant stop the game there, its split second between then and Wilson getting the ball back! I think the ref inflamed the end of game antics by the red to Boughera and soured more of a bad night for Gers, who couldnt muster up a chance.

The SPL is a dreadful league to watch, some of it very dull and uninspiring. Gone are the days where the Old Firm attracted top names in World Football to the clubs, which has also affected the other teams in the league. Aberdeen is full of League 1 standard players, I also would like to see a proper but passionate football match without the need to wave an imaginary yellow card in front of the referees face. I dont know if playing the games behind closed doors would help at all. As for foreign referees? I'm undecided- why not share the English refs for SPL as well and vice-versa giving some of these other refs the chance to ref other big games. Imagine how Howard Webb would've handled that game last night?

Something has to give. It has to. Correct me if I'm wrong but away fans have been banned from both grounds before on occasions, and I'm sure it happens in Holland. This is an unprecedented season of 7 OF games, Plod must've been pulling their hair out when the draw was made. Things may well change with a new concept to the league.

Both teams arent great sides, but have some terriffic individuals within them.

no f*ck off and keep all your sectarian, wife beating bollocks north of the border

Keep all your sectarian, wife beating bollocks in Glasgow.. The Rest of Scotland has and wants nothing to do with it..

I see Lennon has been awarded for his behaviour by getting his 6 match ban reduced to 4

[Wax Jacket]

I can see how the other football fans in Scotland would be happy enough to see the Old Firm packed off to the EPL tbf. CLubs losing out on the revenue might take a bit longer to adjust.

Here's an idea, why not have alterate Rangers/Celtic seasons? Old Firm matches only allowed in the Cups, to keep themselves playing the team on the year off can have a guaranteed CL qualifying spot which they also alternate (which is pretty much the deal as it stands atm so poor is the CL performance).

they could even share players and go back to having the same kit sponsoROFL

[AndyRFC]

just lol at the last page or so of this thread, only rangers forums and chelsea forums share the views of the last page or so, neutral forums all paint a different picture but to be honest i am not surprised by the bitterness and vitriol of some here

laughable stuff

so celtic are getting the decisions now, just last week motherwell got a penalty for nothing against celtic, the count is now at 29, the number of dodgy penalties/offsides or sendings off going against celtic in just one season and it's not finished yet, yet rangers have a bitch and a moan about the sendings off - fair enough that's part of the game but they wouldn't have scored if they were still playing now against celtic, no creativity in that team, just set up to stifle and kick because celtic mullered them last time......whittaker sending off was harsh, bougherra second yellow, he got the ball although first yellow of his could have been a red, most neutrals say the ref handled the game well.............celtic are a better football team, simple as that, hence rangers tried to make in into a battle, celtic weren't having any of it, just three bookings, tried to play the game, all those hating on lennon are accusing him of exactly what they are demonstrating themselves, hate-filled bigotry but they are too dumb to notice the irony, he does let his temper get the better of him at times and needs to calm down a bit, a few games in the stands will give him time to reflect on his outbursts..........the reason why there was a confrontation with diouf is because diouf (who almost everybody in english football who has played with him or against him consider him a huge oxf*rd) shoulder charged the celtic physio on the pitch, he then went to the celtic bench after the whittaker sending off, he was sent off at the end of the game and refused to leave the pitch, the police even told him to stop inflamming the situation but he continued regardless, at the end of the game mccoist muttered something to lennon that set him off, there are rumours about what he said but who knows? did what he said justify lennon's reaction? who knows?
all i know is celtic have been dominat over rangers in the last four games and ranger's discipline was terrible last night, these are the facts, I am not going to engage in the predictable bigoted hatred that many some to come on here to direct at celtic, that speaks volumes about those people.....I am merely analysing the game, I think the reason why your skin is crawling daniella is not because of my posts but because rangers are being consistently outplayed by celtic at the moment and on top of night they also lost their heads last night, you lost the match so you are trying to win the propoganda war, so all the celtic haters can call lennon a ginger irish bollox all they want, they can go on about tims and terrorists and republicanism and cheating all they like (again without noticing the irony, if i was to get into the nasty stuff surrounding rangers this post would go on quite a while but i'll leave it)......it's merely an exercise in futility, in trying to find something, anything to blame for the fact celtic are dominating them at the moment and are vastly superior, the fans can't take it and going by last night's showing, the players and management can't take it either....so carry on with the anti-celtic vitriol coz it's a sure sign that celtic are on top

having said all that, the quality of football in the spl in general is not very good and the old firm games are making the news for the wrong reasons at the moment, for the rucks and hatred and sendings-off and so on rather than the quality of football, some enjoy that, i don't, i want to see a proper football match..................................I also admit that celtic share a part of the blame for all the bitterness and hatred in the fixture (do the rangers fans accept same?).....i would accept games being played behind closes doors for a seaosn (would the rangers fans?)......if the rangers fans think the refs are so bad then would they welcome referees from other countries or maybe an independent disciplinary commision again hiring people from aborad (i would be delighted with this, would the rangers fans?)

so hate all you like, and the others will hate back and the cycle will continue and I'll admit I have got involved in that stuff but it's far far more satisfying to win a game of football than a game of hate so hate away but the result remains the same

24 hours on now so I thought I'd re-evaluate. I dont know whether to be dissapointed that the whole confrontations between McCoist and Lennon has slightly been swept under the carpet, I'm sure there will be some more fall out after the "summit" next week. There isn't a point to me defending some of the behaviour that either club showed last night, not just Rangers. I think the ref got a few things wrong, firstly with the Whitaker first booking. As a Referee you've got to set an example - and you set a presidence, I was irate moments later that a Celtic player wasnt booked for a similar incident and then the lad gets sent off - the replay I saw hmm, I dont know, the lad hadnt made a challenge other then those two. Rangers, and I'm putting this out there as an excuse for their weak performance really werent going to foray much into the other half, few injury problems and suspensions to boot! The E-HD flash point seemed to be doing what he was intilted to do - head to the bench, have a drink get instructions and then all you see is Ally head off to find Lennon. If Lennon has (as rumoured) racially abused the lad, then I'm sure Gus (and as many Celtic fans have) would admit thats plain wrong and no need for that or sectarian abuse. In the Tunnel at half time another flash point seemed to be caused by Mjallaby. The John Fleck booking was just incredible, great dive. On to the second half, the guy I was watching this with was angered that Papac was dead on the goal line when the goal was scored, you cant stop the game there, its split second between then and Wilson getting the ball back! I think the ref inflamed the end of game antics by the red to Boughera and soured more of a bad night for Gers, who couldnt muster up a chance.

The SPL is a dreadful league to watch, some of it very dull and uninspiring. Gone are the days where the Old Firm attracted top names in World Football to the clubs, which has also affected the other teams in the league. Aberdeen is full of League 1 standard players, I also would like to see a proper but passionate football match without the need to wave an imaginary yellow card in front of the referees face. I dont know if playing the games behind closed doors would help at all. As for foreign referees? I'm undecided- why not share the English refs for SPL as well and vice-versa giving some of these other refs the chance to ref other big games. Imagine how Howard Webb would've handled that game last night?

Something has to give. It has to. Correct me if I'm wrong but away fans have been banned from both grounds before on occasions, and I'm sure it happens in Holland. This is an unprecedented season of 7 OF games, Plod must've been pulling their hair out when the draw was made. Things may well change with a new concept to the league.

Both teams arent great sides, but have some terriffic individuals within them.

no f*ck off and keep all your sectarian, wife beating bollocks north of the border

General Football

So do, one.

[sandman]

Keep all your sectarian, wife beating bollocks in Glasgow.. The Rest of Scotland has and wants nothing to do with it..

I see Lennon has been awarded for his behaviour by getting his 6 match ban reduced to 4

There are many people in Glasgow who aren't football fans and are appalled by the behaviour of these people.

Where was the first Muslim MP in Britain elected to? Go to Pollokshields where half of my family are from, there are as many Mosques as there are churches and you'll see many people of different race and religion. I can't deny that there are tensions but they are learning to tolerate each other and live together.

It's important to remember that the Rangers and Celtic fans that create the trouble don't just give Football and Scotland a bad name they give Glasgow a bad name as well.

[Once were Biscuitmen]

Yes quite why Celtic/Rangers think the English Premiership clubs would be inclined to import sectarian hatred by inviting them to join the English football league has always escaped me.

The only good thing about Cardiff making it to the Prem would be to wind them up further.

[Royal With Cheese]

sometimes a manager needs a bit of dog in him

Lonely at the top?

Nah - he's just ugly.

[southbank1871]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-12664550

Quite an interesting article.