QPR points deduction?

[Rex]

As the news breaks our Colin takes it well:

[FiNeRaIn]

Whats the likely outcome of this?

29 starts, good god.

[ZacNaloen]

What would Sheff UTD have to do with it?

They'll sue if there isn't a points deduction and they get relegated.

#doneitbeforecoulddoitagain

That's my thinking, sheff utd are more likely to sue if there isn't a points reduction, not if there is.

*confused by monstermunchs post*

[MmmMonsterMunch]

What would Sheff UTD have to do with it?

Because the same thing happened the year they got relegated. They didnt take pts off West Ham with the Tevez saga - if they had Sheff U would not have gone down.

Sheff UTD then got 30 million pounds in compensation because it was later deemed West Ham should have got a points reduction.


If QPR get away without a points deduction then the only thing you can judge is that Sheffield United shouldn't have got that pay out after all.

Don't recall the FA / PL / whoever ever saying that WHU should have been deducted points. They bottled it hence the big fine.

[TFF]

Whats the likely outcome of this?

Two welsh sides in the premiership

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Why is my post confusing? Seems pretty clear to me.

If QPR get deducted pts, Sheff U would then sue on the grounds that it should have also happened in their case...

[ZacNaloen]

They already sued and got paid 30 million pounds from west ham united in compensation!

Bloody hell.

[TFF]

Why is my post confusing? Seems pretty clear to me.

If QPR get deducted pts, Sheff U would then sue on the grounds that it should have also happened in their case...

They already won that argument. £30M

Keep up.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

They already sued and got paid 30 million pounds from west ham united in compensation!

Bloody hell.

Bloody hll yourself!! Your statement above shows exactly why QPR wont get a points deduction as a precedent has already been set. Jesus not rocket science.

[Royal Lady]

yeah, but I think they're saying that this time around Sheff Utd will WANT points deducted - cos that might save them from the drop this time!

[MmmMonsterMunch]

yeah, but I think they're saying that this time around Sheff Utd will WANT points deducted - cos that might save them from the drop this time!

Thats a bit of a weird logic!! Qpr would get deducted at most 5 pts so doesn't help SU this season at all. I am talking retrospectively with regards to SU but I appreciate that concept is lost on some.

[ZacNaloen]

They already sued and got paid 30 million pounds from west ham united in compensation!

Bloody hell.

Bloody hll yourself!! Your statement above shows exactly why QPR wont get a points deduction as a precedent has already been set. Jesus not rocket science.

But the precedent set by the LATER fine of 30 million pounds is that West Ham should have got a points reduction, Sheffield UTD shouldn't have got relegated and that any other clubs in a similar situation should now get a points reduction lest the FA again have to deal with ANOTHER court case for compensation.

Where's a brick wall?

[TFF]

They already sued and got paid 30 million pounds from west ham united in compensation!

Bloody hell.

Bloody hll yourself!! Your statement above shows exactly why QPR wont get a points deduction as a precedent has already been set. Jesus not rocket science.

If they don't get a 59 point deduction and Sheff Utd finish third bottom...

[Royal Lady]

yeah, but I think they're saying that this time around Sheff Utd will WANT points deducted - cos that might save them from the drop this time!

Thats a bit of a weird logic!! Qpr would get deducted at most 5 pts so doesn't help SU this season at all. I am talking retrospectively with regards to SU but I appreciate that concept is lost on some.

Not if they get deducted points for every game they played with Faurlin taking a part....

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Where is the proof that the FA / PL concluded WHU should have been relegated then?

[MmmMonsterMunch]

yeah, but I think they're saying that this time around Sheff Utd will WANT points deducted - cos that might save them from the drop this time!

Thats a bit of a weird logic!! Qpr would get deducted at most 5 pts so doesn't help SU this season at all. I am talking retrospectively with regards to SU but I appreciate that concept is lost on some.

Not if they get deducted points for every game they played with Faurlin taking a part....

Now that would be funny as hell. Imagine Colin's face. ha ha.

[londinium]

They already sued and got paid 30 million pounds from west ham united in compensation!

Bloody hell.

Bloody hll yourself!! Your statement above shows exactly why QPR wont get a points deduction as a precedent has already been set. Jesus not rocket science.

But the precedent set by the LATER fine of 30 million pounds is that West Ham should have got a points reduction, Sheffield UTD shouldn't have got relegated and that any other clubs in a similar situation should now get a points reduction lest the FA again have to deal with ANOTHER court case for compensation.

Where's a brick wall?

Agreed...The reason Shef Utd got 30 Million is because of the fact that West Ham SHOULD have had a points deduction, otherwise they wouldn't have got a penny. Therefore......

QPR should have a points deduction, and if they do not then teams that do not get promoted on the back of the QPR cheating will sue on the same grounds as Shef Utd did to West Ham, and would also win as a precedent has been set.

[ZacNaloen]

What the FA / PL concluded is irrelevent, an independant tribunal concluded that there should have been a points reduction and sheffield utd should not have been relegated or West Ham wouldn't have been made to pay sheffield united compensation.


If the FA don't go with that tribunals findings for all future incidents they will open up a situation whereby there could be even more claims for compensation whether from the club that just missed out on promotion that feels they shouldn't have, or clubs relegated that feel they shouldn't have been.

[Row Z Royal]

Now that would be funny as hell. Imagine Colin's face. ha ha.

See the top of the page. Do keep up!

[MmmMonsterMunch]

What the FA / PL concluded is irrelevent, an independant tribunal concluded that there should have been a points reduction and sheffield utd should not have been relegated or West Ham wouldn't have been made to pay sheffield united compensation.


If the FA don't go with that tribunals findings for all future incidents they will open up a situation whereby there could be even more claims for compensation whether from the club that just missed out on promotion that feels they shouldn't have, or clubs relegated that feel they shouldn't have been.

That answers my question then. If the tribunal ruled pts should have been taken off then yes they are in real danger of pts being taken off.